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Whoops, sorry. I didn't mean to re-open the tired old debate of "Did Solas and Lavellan have sex or not?"

 

Just to be clear, I know Patrick Weekes deliberately kept it vague so players could draw their own conclusion. Even on my first playthrough, I figured as much. It was just really funny the first time I clicked that, and Solas said that, and my reaction was basically, "@_@!!" But I figured then and still figure now that it's mean to be kept vague so you can decide for yourself what he means. It was just really funny that first time, is all.

 

The first time I've clicked that option I think I was processing it for 10 seconds and then was like "...Wait, what?"


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It just occurred to me... what reason does Lavellan have in the beginning of the game to see Solas as a great source of knowledge about elves?

Of course, it starts with her asking his "opinion", but every further branch is spoken like one would ask a teacher. Are the other Dalish clans like mine? What are city elves like?

But the weirdest part is asking him about ancient elves. Nobody knows much about them, if anything at all. Why would the apostate have anything to add?

And then Lavellan keeps going. What was their magic like? What was the source of their immortality? And then I'm like, "... Why do you think he knows?".

Forgive me if I seem to be getting carried away, I'm just trying to figure this out.

 

Well, one of the first things a Dalish Inquisitor learns about Solas is that he's had past (unfriendly) encounters with their people. And if Solas really was just a random apostate who saw the past through the Fade, he would still probably the only one who's likely to know anything about ancient elves, out of everyone in the Inquisition. 

 

Not to mention... I mean, it's not like Inquisition's conversation system is a perfect representation of how people converse in real life. I doubt Lavellan and Solas only had three casual conversations over the entire course of events of the game - but chats about his taste in tea or his possible sweet tooth don't provide much insight into his character. So I guess I considered it as sort of... filtered? Like, they didn't only talk about spirits and elves, but the devs put only those conversations in because they're the most relevant to Solas' character. Similarly, you could infer that the Inquisitor asked everyone about the ancient elves, and Solas was the only companion who didn't shrug and go "iunno," so the devs choose to actually show that conversation.


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Art post.

 

A very sinister-looking cloaked Solas by kallielef

 

Beautiful watercolor art of Solas holding the orb.

 

Lineart of Modern AU Solas and the Dread Wolf. <3

 

Solas profile drawing practice.

 

Some doodles. Concept!Solas, Dorian, Josephine, Sera, and Cole.


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(Here we go again...)

Whether Solas slept with Lavellan or not is entirely up to you. Personally for me, when I heard Solas say those lines in Trespasser, I thought it was confirmation that they did sleep together. Otherwise, why bring up the subject of sex at all?

Others interpreted it as he didn't. Both are valid.

Again, I'm gonna quote someone on Tumblr for the explanation:

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"I see two interpretations of this exchange.

1) Lavellan is referring to sex. She’s saying that he took advantage of her, the implication being that he simply used her either for his own pleasure or in order to manipulate her - or both. He denies this, claiming that he never would have slept with her simply for the sake of his deception. In other words, his feelings for her and their relationship were both genuine. His desire for her, sexual and otherwise, was not a tool for controlling her or falsely earning her trust.

2) Lavellan is using the phrase strictly in the way the Dalish do. He deceived her and toyed with her. Everything about their relationship was a lie in order to use her as a pawn in his plot. He tricked her into thinking that he loved her and took advantage of her trust. He denies this and reinforces it by explaining that he would not cross that line of intimacy with her when she still did not know the truth.

Headcanon away. It’s meant to be ambiguous."

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And of course there is Patrick Weekes' tweet.

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And another:

http://telanadas.tum...st/128715797237

"if you want to say solas and lavellan didn’t have sex that’s totally your right because weekes said he left it up to player interpretation.
which means people who think they did have sex are just as right as people who think they didn’t.

Solas does not say he never slept with lavellan, he says he would not have slept with her under false pretenses, which really just means she wasn’t a conquest for the big bad dread wolf, his feelings for her were 100% real and legitimate. you all just read the ‘i did not lay with you’ part and that’s it.

again, it’s a very valid interpretation to say they didn’t have sex, but it’s also just as valid to say they did."



I like discussing this. Or thinking about it anyways.
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Well, one of the first things a Dalish Inquisitor learns about Solas is that he's had past (unfriendly) encounters with their people. And if Solas really was just a random apostate who saw the past through the Fade, he would still probably the only one who's likely to know anything about ancient elves, out of everyone in the Inquisition. 

 

Not to mention... I mean, it's not like Inquisition's conversation system is a perfect representation of how people converse in real life. I doubt Lavellan and Solas only had three casual conversations over the entire course of events of the game - but chats about his taste in tea or his possible sweet tooth don't provide much insight into his character. So I guess I considered it as sort of... filtered? Like, they didn't only talk about spirits and elves, but the devs put only those conversations in because they're the most relevant to Solas' character. Similarly, you could infer that the Inquisitor asked everyone about the ancient elves, and Solas was the only companion who didn't shrug and go "iunno," so the devs choose to actually show that conversation.

 

Wait, you mean ... people *don't* have 2-3 conversations with another person over the course of 6 months and then declare their undying love for each other?  Huh.  I guess that's why people keep avoiding me.


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Wait, you mean ... people *don't* have 2-3 conversations with another person over the course of 6 months and then declare their undying love for each other?  Huh.  I guess that's why people keep avoiding me.

 

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Art post.

 

Solavellan happy ending. <3

 

Solavellan tarot card.

 

Lovely Solas figure study by umabbas. (NSFW-ish because he's nude)

 

Solas | Veil in Gold.

 

A nice Solas sketch.

 

Solas' NOTP. Solas Greatly Disapproves of Cullen and Lavellan kissing.

 

Dragon Age Male Romance companions.


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Wait, you mean ... people *don't* have 2-3 conversations with another person over the course of 6 months and then declare their undying love for each other?  Huh.  I guess that's why people keep avoiding me.

 

Try dating Skyrim-style.


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http://pleasegoaway....st/142917536868

 

My heart is going to explode. This sounds so cool.

 

I never got into mythology. I wish I could say I was a nerd and I did, but every time I tried to read about irl-cultures' mythologies (Norse, Greek, etc) I'd forget who's who and what's what.

 

And it took a videogame to make me feel the awesomeness of an irl legend. Sad, but true.

 

Anyways, yah.


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http://pleasegoaway....st/142917536868

 

My heart is going to explode. This sounds so cool.

 

I never got into mythology. I wish I could say I was a nerd and I did, but every time I tried to read about irl-cultures' mythologies (Norse, Greek, etc) I'd forget who's who and what's what.

 

And it took a videogame to make me feel the awesomeness of an irl legend. Sad, but true.

 

Anyways, yah.

 

Being a history major and a general nerd when it comes to mythology I have every intention of giving this a proper read-through... although since it is the middle of the night here it will probably have to wait until tomorrow. But thank you in advance for the link!  :)


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http://pleasegoaway....st/142917536868

 

My heart is going to explode. This sounds so cool.

 

I never got into mythology. I wish I could say I was a nerd and I did, but every time I tried to read about irl-cultures' mythologies (Norse, Greek, etc) I'd forget who's who and what's what.

 

And it took a videogame to make me feel the awesomeness of an irl legend. Sad, but true.

 

Anyways, yah.

I love this set of predictions, but I think they're building up this Marius guy from the comics to take a role similar to Fenris' instead, because Fenris can die in some worldstates. He's even got the same character template - broody, terse, mage-hating former slave.



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Try dating Skyrim-style.

 

*puts an Amulet of Mara on*

 

Who wants to get hitched?!


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It is a little surprising that Lavellan could spark Solas' interest, considering that there is a great abyss between them in terms of experience and wisdom. Capable as she may be, she is a little child next to him.

If you think it isn't supposed to be a factor at all, try to imagine the attempt at romancing Flemeth. Nobody in this world can impress her, as she's been around for centuries and seen many history changing people come and go.

*puts an Amulet of Mara on*

Who wants to get hitched?!


Interested in me, are you?

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I love this set of predictions, but I think they're building up this Marius guy from the comics to take a role similar to Fenris' instead, because Fenris can die in some worldstates. He's even got the same character template - broody, terse, mage-hating former slave.


Aw ;___; Fenris is so epic.
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It is a little surprising that Lavellan could spark Solas' interest, considering that there is a great abyss between them in terms of experience and wisdom. Capable as she may be, she is a little child next to him.

If you think it isn't supposed to be a factor at all, try to imagine the attempt at romancing Flemeth. Nobody in this world could impress her, as she's been around for centuries and seen many history changing people come and go.

 

Flemeth had many lovers, yo. Where do you think her daughters come from? And nobody said that she wasn't feeling something more to men she picked as consorts.

 

Also - I think that if Lavellan, or any Inky that befriended Solas, was akin of a child to him Solas would never declare his friendship or love. Don't forget that Inky is a mystery to Solas, with a soul and wisdom that reminds him of people from pre-Veil times. That basically means that for him people like Inky are very mature.



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I thought Flemeth was just horny, lol. I wouldn't call it love.


... I'll give you some time to get that image out of your head.



Anyhow, yes, being open to certain unconventional views could make Lavellan stand out among the not!people at least.

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Aw ;___; Fenris is so epic.

He is definitely one of my favorites too! I would pay all the dollars to have him come back, but I know not everyone liked him or his temperament.

 

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It is a little surprising that Lavellan could spark Solas' interest, considering that there is a great abyss between them in terms of experience and wisdom. Capable as she may be, she is a little child next to him.

If you think it isn't supposed to be a factor at all, try to imagine the attempt at romancing Flemeth. Nobody in this world can impress her, as she's been around for centuries and seen many history changing people come and go.


Interested in me, are you?

 

I'll meet you at the Temple of Mara ... unless you get bugged out.  Then the whole thing's off.


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I don’t want to make a thread for this so I thought I might ask here: At what point do you get locked into the Solas romance? I had the fade and balcony scene already but there never was a „start romance with solas“ option. My inquisitor still can tell Sera or Cullen that she’s interested. However, the romance scene with Iron Bull didn’t trigger after his personal quest so I’m thinking my inquisitor is at least soft-logged into the Solas romance… I’m confused.
 



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I don’t want to make a thread for this so I thought I might ask here: At what point do you get locked into the Solas romance? I had the fade and balcony scene already but there never was a „start romance with solas“ option. My inquisitor still can tell Sera or Cullen that she’s interested. However, the romance scene with Iron Bull didn’t trigger after his personal quest so I’m thinking my inquisitor is at least soft-logged into the Solas romance… I’m confused.
 

 

You get locked into his romance during balcony scene - if you pick romance option, ofc.



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In regard's to Flemeth she does acknowledge Merrill and Elf Inquisitor of "Doing the People proud" 

 

So people like Flemethythal and by extension Solas firtst need to respect you. In the case of Solas, love blooms between him and f!elf inquisitor.



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In regard's to Flemeth she does acknowledge Merrill and Elf Inquisitor of "Doing the People proud" 

 

So people like Flemethythal and by extension Solas firtst need to respect you. In the case of Solas, love blooms between him and f!elf inquisitor.

 

Did Flemeth ever tell Merrill that she does the People proud?  I didn't think she did .. I know she tells Merrill the People bend their knee too easily though.



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You get locked into his romance during balcony scene - if you pick romance option, ofc.

 

thanks. it wasn't really clear that it's the romance option though. With Cullen and Sera it basically says ATTENTION ATTENTION START ROMANCE WITH CULLEN.


 

I wish they stuck with either making it very obvious with every romance or not giving us the obvious options at all. With Dorian it was equally ambiguous.


And why isn't there a break up with Solas option then? Because he's above it? :D


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Did Flemeth ever tell Merrill that she does the People proud?  I didn't think she did .. I know she tells Merrill the People bend their knee too easily though.

 

I saw the cutscene. You're right she doesn't say that to Merrill. But she does acknowledge her as being "young and bright"



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