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[midnight tea]

He does match his title. He is dreadfully hawt.

 

I can almost hear Solas groaning from the other side of the Veil

[midnight tea]

"Speculations-based-on-minimal-and-cryptic-Cole's-comments" time!

 

I've been listening to all possible banter available from companions in Trespasser, and there was something from Cole I've never heard or recall hearing before, happening when Anchor either flares or is about to explode on Inky's hand:

"It's the Veil, it wants to be back but it's trapped on you!"

 

Wait... wut? So the Anchor is directly linked to the Veil? I mean, I'm not that surprised by this, considering that the Anchor was an invention of the Veil creator, apparently made as a mean to pierce it, but... "it wants to be back, but it's trapped on you"?

 

What does it meeeeean  ?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Just a guess, but since if I recall correctly somewhere the Mark was described as a thread, perhaps it is one of many threads that make up the Veil.

 

To use a comparison, imagine an open window. Things from one side can go to the other side and visa versa with impunity. That is the world when the Fade and the mortal realm were one and the same. Now imagine installing a screen that keeps each side separate yet still connected. That screen is the Veil. A screen is made of many individual threads, and without a thread there will be holes in the screen. Those holes are the Rifts and the Breach and the missing thread is the Anchor. Now to fully repair the screen, you need to reinsert or replace the missing thread. The thread in your hand wants to be reinserted into the screen, but it cannot because it is tied within you.

 

So as it struggles to get out to rejoin the screen, that results in it slowly killing you. I don't mean to imply that the Veil is sentient, but more Cole could be anthropomorphising it and is really describing something like magnetism, where the thread in us is drawn to the treads in the Veil. Like how metal can be drawn out of you if you walk past a powerful enough magnet. 

[midnight tea]

Just a guess, but since if I recall correctly somewhere the Mark was described as a thread, perhaps it is one of many threads that make up the Veil.

 

To use a comparison, imagine an open window. Things from one side can go to the other side and visa versa with impunity. That is the world when the Fade and the mortal realm were one and the same. Now imagine installing a screen that keeps each side separate yet still connected. That screen is the Veil. A screen is made of many individual threads, and without a thread there will be holes in the screen. Those holes are the Rifts and the Breach and the missing thread is the Anchor. Now to fully repair the screen, you need to reinsert or replace the missing thread. The thread in your hand wants to be reinserted into the screen, but it cannot because it is tied within you.

 

So as it struggles to get out to rejoin the screen, that results in it slowly killing you. I don't mean to imply that the Veil is sentient, but more Cole could be anthropomorphising it and is really describing something like magnetism, where the thread in us is drawn to the treads in the Veil. Like how metal can be drawn out of you if you walk past a powerful enough magnet. 

 

It's an interesting explanation, but I'm not sure the DIvine meant that when she said that the Anchor is "a needle that pulls the thread, as well as the key" or "a needle that passes thorough the Veil, as little else can". Seems to me like it's a different metaphor from the one you've presented.

[Sifr]

I agree with what's been said above, that the Mark is drawn to try to return to the Veil, hence the reason it always flares in locations where the Veil is at it's weakest or when massive disturbances take place, such as Breach events.

 

I suggest that rather than the Anchor being synonymous with the Mark, the Inquisitor is actually the Anchor that binds it to the physical world. The Inquisitor is a physical being and thus seeks to remain on that side of the Veil, thus we're the ones anchoring the part bound to our hand on the "wrong" side that it normally exists on.

 

That could be why when Solas severs our arm, it appears to slowly disintegrate as it transitions back into the Fade, now the Inquisitor is not consciously preventing the passage between the Fade/Thedas from taking place.

 

Would also fit with how in moments that threaten their life, the Inquisitor instinctively opens nearby tears into the Fade to escape into, almost without any conscious or physical effort on their part. Essentially in that moment, they've "pulled up anchor" and let the current take them where it wants to go.

 

But once in the Fade, the Inquisitor cannot just open another tear out of the fade to get back into Thedas, because the Mark on their hand doesn't want to leave it's home dimension now it's back. Instead we have to rely on using rifts that already exist in order to return back home.

[midnight tea]

I agree with what's been said above, that the Mark is drawn to try to return to the Veil, hence the reason it always flares in locations where the Veil is at it's weakest or when massive disturbances take place, such as Breach events.

 

I suggest that rather than the Anchor being synonymous with the Mark, the Inquisitor is actually the Anchor that binds it to the physical world. The Inquisitor is a physical being and thus seeks to remain on that side of the Veil, thus we're the ones anchoring the part bound to our hand on the "wrong" side that it normally exists on.

 

That could be why when Solas severs our arm, it appears to slowly disintegrate as it transitions back into the Fade, now the Inquisitor is not consciously preventing the passage between the Fade/Thedas from taking place.

 

Would also fit with how in moments that threaten their life, the Inquisitor instinctively opens nearby tears into the Fade to escape into, almost without any conscious or physical effort on their part. Essentially in that moment, they've "pulled up anchor" and let the current take them where it wants to go.

 

But once in the Fade, the Inquisitor cannot just open another tear out of the fade to get back into Thedas, because the Mark on their hand doesn't want to leave it's home dimension now it's back. Instead we have to rely on using rifts that already exist in order to return back home.

 

I'm not convinced it's entirely that, since the whole idea bases on a premise that the Veil and the Fade are apparently one and the same, or that the Veil is ultimately part of it.

 

But that's not exactly true. The Veil is actually a barrier that *prevents* the Fade from entering the world. It also doesn't flare where the Veil is the weakest in Trespasser, but in contact or close proximity to elvhen magic we see in Vir Dirthara or Fen'Harel's Sanctuary, which in itself doesn't appear to be a realm like the Library or Crossroads.

 

The only thing I can make sense of is that the the Anchor wants to go back to its creator... though the quote does say "be back" rather than "go back".

[Elessara]

I'm not convinced it's entirely that, since the whole idea bases on a premise that the Veil and the Fade are apparently one and the same, or that the Veil is ultimately part of it.

 

But that's not exactly true. The Veil is actually a barrier that *prevents* the Fade from entering the world. It also doesn't flare where the Veil is the weakest in Trespasser, but in contact or close proximity to elvhen magic we see in Vir Dirthara or Fen'Harel's Sanctuary, which in itself doesn't appear to be a realm like the Library or Crossroads.

 

The only thing I can make sense of is that the the Anchor wants to go back to its creator... though the quote does say "be back" rather than "go back".

 

What Cole says would make more sense if he said "Fade" rather than "Veil".  As it is, I have no idea what it could mean.

[Illyria]

He does match his title. He is dreadfully hawt.

 

That's...

 

Fen'Hilarious.

[Illyria]

That's what I'm talking about!!! Hell yeah!!

 

So... shiny...

 

I'd like to use that, but only if there's now a deshined version of it.  Which there should be now, that's over a year old.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

Don't feed the troll, guys.

Don't be hatin'.

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Concept!Solas painting.

Spoiler

Source: http://lgions.tumblr...ncept-art-solas

 

 

A sinister-looking Solas and the Dread Wolf.

Spoiler

Source: http://rabiddog008.t...-is-the-egg-man

 

 

'Her Lover's Canvas' v.2.0.

Solas painting a semi-permanent glyph on Lavellan's back to enhance her fire abilities. (NSFW-ish)

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Source: http://theaxkx.tumbl...-were-wondering

 

 

Side Benefits. (Solavellan)

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This is the preview version. Full art is in the link and NSFW for nudity.

 

Source: http://accidental-ap...0/side-benefits

 

 

Solavellan fanart from the modern AU fic, Meet The Family: Solas and Lavellan's first kiss.

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Source: http://fosterthefleu...-in-her-hand-so

 

[NightSymphony]

And some more art

 

Sketches and Ink Drawings by Duck Empress

http://duck-empress....015-2-606980649

http://duck-empress....015-4-606978888

http://duck-empress....015-3-606978082

http://duck-empress....015-1-606975277

http://duck-empress....rsion-607011960

[Qun00]

Uh... what is a "concept Solas"?

[midnight tea]

Uh... what is a "concept Solas"?

 

Basically this:

 

 

Some people began drawing them or using it as a basis for how Solas looked during his times of Arlathan and somehow (even after release of Trespasser which featured Solas murals from that time presenting him as he is now) it became relatively popular to headcanon that 'concept!Solas' is basically 'young Solas'... even though this is nothing other than a concept, like white-skinned Vivienne.

[Qun00]

White skinned... Vivienne? That sounds pretty bizarre.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

Basically this:

 

 

Some people began drawing them or using it as a basis for how Solas looked during his times of Arlathan and somehow (even after release of Trespasser which featured Solas murals from that time presenting him as he is now) it became relatively popular to headcanon that 'concept!Solas' is basically 'young Solas'... even though this is nothing other than a concept, like white-skinned Vivienne.

I don't see anything wrong with that. Those concept arts are cool and nothing says those murals in Trespasser are how he has always looked forever and ever. He might have shaved the hair in a symbolic cutting of ties with his decadent Evanuris lifestyle when he decided to rebel. Or he shaved it earlier, after the war that he fought in, likely the same one that launched himself and the Evanuris into power and prestige. Its a perfectly defensible headcanon.

 

White skinned... Vivienne? That sounds pretty bizarre.

Yeah, Vivienne was white in early concept art. That, obviously, would be kidna ridiculous to try to headcanon into lore somehow.

[Baboontje]

I like to think he is at least capable of growing hair. Because if baldness somehow turns out to be an Ancient!Elf thing or pre-Veil thing and all my Elves lose their hair if the Veil ever drops, I'll be one sad cookie. So yeah, I imagine he had hair, once. But in my head, he shaved (or magicked) his hair off because it would be more convenient for when he went in uthenera.

 

Also, just found this on google. I cried...

 

[midnight tea]

I don't see anything wrong with that. Those concept arts are cool and nothing says those murals in Trespasser are how he has always looked forever and ever. He might have shaved the hair in a symbolic cutting of ties with his decadent Evanuris lifestyle when he decided to rebel. Or he shaved it earlier, after the war that he fought in, likely the same one that launched himself and the Evanuris into power and prestige. Its a perfectly defensible headcanon.

 

I'm not saying it's indefensible, but it's still just a concept Solas. Peple can headcanon whatever they like, even tentacle!Solas, but I do hope people will remember that the concept one is still just a concept, so there won't be any accusations of retcons *in case* Bioware ever shows us his deep past and he turns out to not be like his concept.

[The Elder King]

I don't mind if he was always bald (his physical appearance isn't really relevant to me). I'd like if he was a bit different, have some hairs, just because I like reading manga and I dislike to see characters with the same exactly hairstyle from childhoold (sometimes from the moment they are born) to when they're older. 

It's not really an important thing though.

[midnight tea]

White skinned... Vivienne? That sounds pretty bizarre.

 

Yes, David Gaider was even talking about it at some presentation. Vivienne was white for a while and called differently (and an adviser, not a companion), but they couldn't really pin her character down and for a time she was in this sort of developer limbo. If I recall correctly, she was even supposed to be cut out from the game entirely. But then one of the concept artists painted her with black skin and her character 'clicked' in Mary Kirby's head, so now we have Vivienne we know and love

[midnight tea]

I don't mind if he was always bald (his physical appearance isn't really relevant to me). I'd like if he was a bit different, have some hairs, just because I like reading manga and I dislike to see characters with the same exactly hairstyle from childhoold (sometimes from the moment they are born) to when they're older. 

It's not really an important thing though.

 

Haha, it's a sad reality that in many mangas the only recognizable feature of the character is an eye color and a hairstyle^^;

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

I like to think he is at least capable of growing hair. Because if baldness somehow turns out to be an Ancient!Elf thing or pre-Veil thing and all my Elves lose their hair if the Veil ever drops, I'll be one sad cookie. So yeah, I imagine he had hair, once. But in my head, he shaved (or magicked) his hair off because it would be more convenient for when he went in uthenera.

 

Also, just found this on google. I cried...

 

I'm crying now.

 

Haha, it's a sad reality that in many mangas the only recognizable feature of the character is an eye color and a hairstyle^^;

Yes. Art style is only an excuse for so long, mangaka. C'mon, guys. lol

[NightSymphony]

Pretty Pretty Solavellan art

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http://fluffpuffgerb...piece-607031011

[Ghost Gal]

I don't see anything wrong with that. Those concept arts are cool and nothing says those murals in Trespasser are how he has always looked forever and ever. He might have shaved the hair in a symbolic cutting of ties with his decadent Evanuris lifestyle when he decided to rebel. Or he shaved it earlier, after the war that he fought in, likely the same one that launched himself and the Evanuris into power and prestige. Its a perfectly defensible headcanon.

 

Yeah, I pretty much agree. In most cases I'm actually against people trying to change characters to fit the concept art, but in this case I think it could work because Weekes himself said Solas is in his mid-forties (apparently the ancient elven equivalent), and we don't know how old he was when he led the uprising against the Evanuris. It's very possible that he could have been tanner and hairier when he was younger. I especially think it fits how Solas said in party banter that when he was younger he was "cocky and hot-blooded, always eager for a fight," and "a younger elf who thought he knew everything," and the early concept art Solas looks pretty cocky, smug, and arrogant.

 

I'm not saying it's indefensible, but it's still just a concept Solas. Peple can headcanon whatever they like, even tentacle!Solas, but I do hope people will remember that the concept one is still just a concept, so there won't be any accusations of retcons *in case* Bioware ever shows us his deep past and he turns out to not be like his concept.

 

In a perfect world I'd say I agree, but this is the DA fandom. A lot of the fandom gets mad when BioWare doesn't respect their personal headcanons for their characters even when their headcanon goes against established canon (like the whole "My Queen Cousland and King Alistair had seven dozen kids, so how dare they say my Warden went to find a cure for the Calling instead of staying home with their babies!" even though it's pretty much canon that Alistair never has a kid outside the Dark Ritual AND Warden + Warden = Infertile), so I wouldn't get my hopes up for people differentiating "headcanon concept art younger Solas" with "actual canon younger Solas."

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

There's only one solution: work out the kinks in the hair mechanics in frostbite so that young Solas with wild hair is a viable possibility. There's your motivation, devs. lol