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I certainly hope a softened Leliana is not a must, she is a hardened Divine in my canon playthrough. 

 

Ugh, I would be a quite a bit upset if one thing my Inky said at the very beginning of the game determined the outcome of what happens later in the next game with Solas...  <_<

 

Well .. IF they go that route for determining if you're able to redeem Solas then I would imagine that it will most likely be done in a points system, similar to how they did the VS confrontation in ME3 or the Landsmeet decision in DAO.  You would need a number of points to be able to redeem Solas and each decision on the list would give X number of points.  So choosing something else in one or two decisions might not affect the outcome.  Not making enough of the "right" decisions and you can't redeem Solas but simply not having one or two wouldn't prevent you.  Like, I don't think that just having a hardened Leliana would be enough to not allow you to redeem Solas and honestly that being a deciding factor wouldn't make much sense to me.



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I'm not sure about making Leliana the Divine... She does talk about freeing up the mages, which sure, Solas would agree with. However, she also talks about forcing change, and bringing the elves and the dwarves into the fold, because she believes this would bring peace. She goes on to say that "There are those who would cling to the old ways, of course, but they will see. I would make them see." That smacks so much of colonialism that I could not support her. I imagine her forcing elves, dwarves, and Qunari to convert from the elven pantheon, the Stone, and the Qun and join the Chantry. I do not believe Solas would support that. Well, except maybe for forcing the Qun to change.   ;)  Seriously though, forcing people to change their old beliefs (even if it was in the Qun) does not strike me as something Solas would support, with all the value he places on freedom and freedom of thought.

 

ETA: I was looking up info on how the Divine was chosen, and added up the points Cassandra, Leliana, and Vivienne would have received based on my choices... Either the wiki is missing some information, or I had a bug in my game, because Cassandra had 11 points, Leliana 21-22 points (I don't remember what choice I made for one of the Divine point-giving things listed there), and Vivienne -9 points, yet Cassandra became the Divine in my game. For which I am grateful.



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As part of my Solas dialogue transcription, I have been watching videos and replaying sections of the game. At the end of the Temple of Mythal, if you drink the Well of Sorrows, you glow with a blue light as Flemeth's eyes (and, after absorbing her at the end of DAI, Solas' eyes) did, and I wondered if Inquisitors who drank the Well of Sorrows may have unwittingly become one of her horcruxes, in addition to being geased to serve her.  Food for thought, anyway. 

 

Ugh, I do not want a final showdown with Solas where my Inquisitor becomes an aspect of Mythal, but I suppose it might be possible. Not sure how that might play out since he has a piece of her, too.

 

All this waiting for DA4 is going to be torture (but fun torture).



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As part of my Solas dialogue transcription, I have been watching videos and replaying sections of the game. At the end of the Temple of Mythal, if you drink the Well of Sorrows, you glow with a blue light as Flemeth's eyes (and, after absorbing her at the end of DAI, Solas' eyes) did, and I wondered if Inquisitors who drank the Well of Sorrows may have unwittingly become one of her horcruxes, in addition to being geased to serve her.  Food for thought, anyway. 

 

Ugh, I do not want a final showdown with Solas where my Inquisitor becomes an aspect of Mythal, but I suppose it might be possible. Not sure how that might play out since he has a piece of her, too.

 

All this waiting for DA4 is going to be torture (but fun torture).

 

It was torture the moment Trespasser ended.  Let me know when it becomes fun.  ;D


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It was torture the moment Trespasser ended.  Let me know when it becomes fun.  ;D

 

It's fun for me because I keep trying to figure out what might happen with Solas. My brain enjoys things like that. :)



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I'm not sure about making Leliana the Divine... She does talk about freeing up the mages, which sure, Solas would agree with. However, she also talks about forcing change, and bringing the elves and the dwarves into the fold, because she believes this would bring peace. She goes on to say that "There are those who would cling to the old ways, of course, but they will see. I would make them see." That smacks so much of colonialism that I could not support her. I imagine her forcing elves, dwarves, and Qunari to convert from the elven pantheon, the Stone, and the Qun and join the Chantry. I do not believe Solas would support that. Well, except maybe for forcing the Qun to change.   ;)  Seriously though, forcing people to change their old beliefs (even if it was in the Qun) does not strike me as something Solas would support, with all the value he places on freedom and freedom of thought.

 

ETA: I was looking up info on how the Divine was chosen, and added up the points Cassandra, Leliana, and Vivienne would have received based on my choices... Either the wiki is missing some information, or I had a bug in my game, because Cassandra had 11 points, Leliana 21-22 points (I don't remember what choice I made for one of the Divine point-giving things listed there), and Vivienne -9 points, yet Cassandra became the Divine in my game. For which I am grateful.

 

I don't think softened Leliana would forcibly convert people.  Hardened Leliana might.

 

Yes, she wants more people to turn to the Chantry, but I think she'd use her words to convince them, rather than forced conversion (which, incidentally, is how the Qun converts people... via force and brainwashing).

 

In all honesty, other than the force she uses to uphold her power, Vivienne is probably the best person to make Divine (my opinion only), simply because she is the moderate (surprisingly enough) option.  Being a mage makes her a radical choice, it's true, but out of all three, Cassandra changes the least and Leliana changes the most about the Chantry and its infrastructure.  Leliana's Chantry, which is open to all comers and opens the priesthood to men, elves, dwarves, and qunari, is in many ways ideal--but too much change often meets with resistance, and it's all too often the violent kind of resistance.  Cassandra's desire to make things just go back the way they were can't succeed--we see where that led already.  You can't tell people they aren't prisoners while treating them like prisoners.  Sooner or later you'll end up with the same results:  the templars will abuse their power, mages will be made Tranquil, and of course, mages will rebel.  Vivienne offers increased freedom to mages who earn it--which is actually a logical solution even if it means they're still effectively prisoners.  I'm not sure if she would still allow Tranquil--likely she would--but in many ways mages are so accustomed to being imprisoned that they have difficulty adapting.  While plenty are pleased with freedom, plenty more miss their towers.  Although I'm sure Solas would disagree with me vehemently on the grounds that freedom should be granted outright, not earned, I see Vivienne's leadership as less "the way things should be," and more a stepping stone on the path to a more Leliana-like Chantry.

 

Having said all that, even though I think Vivienne may actually be the best choice, there's no way I could avoid putting Leliana in power.  Her entire story thus far seems to have been leading her up to it.  And honestly, although I know her drastic changes to the Chantry aren't really wise, I can't disagree with her intentions.  Again, I don't think she's going to force conversions (if I suddenly learn she has, my opinion will change for sure!).  She just wants the Chantry to be more inclusive to those who already believe, and more welcoming to those who may wish to convert.  She'll open the priesthood to everyone, not just human women.  And as for those who want to cling to the old ways, I'm pretty sure that refers to the Chantry's old ways--the belief that the Maker abandoned everyone, the removal of Shartan from the Chant of Light, keeping elves and dwarves and qunari out of the various Chantry buildings when believers should be welcomed there regardless what shape they take.

 

I would be more fearful of Cassandra as Divine forcing her way than of a softened Leliana, who would likely lead by example and expect conversions to happen as they would.  Cassandra is, let us not forget, the one who expects your Dalish Inquisitor to embrace one more god in the Maker, but then openly mocks and disparages your Dalish gods later on.  Unless your Dalish Inquisitor was never much of a believer, that's incredibly insulting.  Sure... take one more god, but remember he's the only real god and that makes you and Ameridan both complete fools, in the eyes of Cassandra.  And even post-Trespasser, a Dalish has the right to remain faithful and believe that the disparagement of his or her gods is negative propaganda from Fen'harel and his followers, who have much to gain from you turning your back on the "rightful" evanuris gods.

 

Solas can deny it all he wants, but by some definitions he is in fact a god--he is ageless, presumably difficult to kill, and he is powerful beyond what anyone else alive is capable of being.  If the other evanuris compared to him in power, they could also be considered deities.  Even if you completely believe they aren't gods by any definition, the Dalish, even the Inquisitor, still have the right to their beliefs and faiths.  At this point they are less involved in worshiping an individual and more some nebulous idea of that individual.  Since they don't truly know who it is they are worshiping (as in, they are worshiping crafted identities rather than the actual flawed people), who is to say that they are not worshiping actual gods that, like the Avvar, they may have created out of their own belief?  Or that may have existed all along, and taken the names of the people they worship as a matter of convenience?  Let's not forget that the Avvar gods are spirits.  But they very much exist, and one of the actual definitions of a "god," is a spirit.  Some such gods are greater than others.

 

... What I'm trying to say is, if you believe Leliana with her disapproval of people backsliding and trying to keep elves/men/dwarves/etc out of the Chantry (and the Chant of Light itself, in the case of Shartan) is bad, then how is Cassandra better with her desire to change literally nothing, but keep people imprisoned (under the caveat that she'll just have templars be more careful about not oppressing the mages they keep caged)?  And how is Cassandra's mockery of others' beliefs any better than Leliana's suggestions that the Chantry should be a place people WANT to come to?

 

Frankly I agree with Leliana's intentions the most, but I see Vivienne as a necessary step to get there.  But both Cassandra and Vivienne are more likely to press Chantry beliefs on those who don't accept Chantry dogma--Cassandra, because she seems to believe that any other beliefs are foolish, and Vivienne because whether she has faith or not, an increase in followers is an increase in power.

 

And I think you have misinterpreted what Leliana meant by "old ways," because I still do not think she's referring to the "old ways" of the dwarves or the Dalish or the Qun.  She's talking about the Chantry's old traditions, which are often senseless or have been the cause of senseless cruelty to others.  Again, the persecution of elves and the removal of Shartan from the Chant were in no small part due to the Chantry's influence.  Leliana remarks that although Varric is devout Andrastian, he won't go into a Chantry because as a dwarf he wouldn't be welcome there.  Do you honestly think an elf would show up in a Chantry other than maybe a small alienage temple?  And then who would preach to them?  Elves can't be Chantry sisters.  I'm reasonably sure she's also the one who says that the Chantry should lead by example, and that if they set a good example, people will convert to the Chant.  Sure, she wants people to convert--she isn't going to force them (unless you hardened her, in which case she very well might).  But she's highly religious and she might be put into position as a leader of her religion.  Of course she wants people to convert--religions don't last long without followers!



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Lots ... (didn't want to quote all of it)

 

I've always thought Vivienne changed the least about the Chantry.  She reinstates the Circles and the Templars and forces the mages back into the Circles.  She completely returns things to how they were (which is what was causing the problems to begin with).  Cassandra invites the mages to return but doesn't force them although I don't recall what she does about the Templars.  Vivienne might be the most radical choice for Divine because she's a mage but she's also the most staunchly conservative of the three choices.  Cassandra wants moderate change and Leliana changes things a great deal.

 

My personal belief is that the Chantry *has* to change to remain relevant.  Returning things to the way they were and ruling with an iron fist (Vivienne) is only going to restart the cycle that lead to the rebellion.  Cassandra wants to change things a little but not enough.  Leliana I think is heading in the right direction although probably too fast.


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It's fun for me because I keep trying to figure out what might happen with Solas. My brain enjoys things like that. :)

 

I can only speculate for so long before I want to find out what actually happens.  I was patient ... for like a month after Trespasser.  It's actually a little disheartening to realise we probably won't hear anything until after MEA is released.  If we hear news before then I will be pleasantly surprised.



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I don't think softened Leliana would forcibly convert people.  Hardened Leliana might.

 

Yes, she wants more people to turn to the Chantry, but I think she'd use her words to convince them, rather than forced conversion (which, incidentally, is how the Qun converts people... via force and brainwashing).

*snip*

 

My experience of the game was different than yours. I accidentally hardened Leliana early in the game when I had my Inquisitor say that the Inquisition scouts who died knew what they had signed up for, instead of the more motherly option of saying 'no one is expendable,' which is true but didn't seem to fit the moment. As a result, during Leliana's personal quest, in spite of choosing the 'softening' options, I could not prevent her from slitting Sister Natalie's throat, and when I had my Inquisitor confront Leliana about it, she was kind of bitchy towards her. I am pretty sure that my Leliana would slit the throats of anyone who opposed her ideas about the direction the Chantry should go, and her words definitely made me think she would forcibly convert non-human people to the Chantry.

 

As a counterpoint, I never noticed Cassandra mocking my Inquisitor Lavellan's beliefs. Sure, she wished I would become Andrastian but she didn't hold it against me when I didn't. When we recovered the Book of Secrets, Cassandra was determined not to keep it secret any longer. She vowed to look into the Circles, the treatment of Tranquil, and reversing the Rite of Tranquility, although she was concerned about how the newly un-Tranquil would manage. She favoured the idea of reforming the Chantry, refocusing its efforts on serving the community, she accepted my suggestion to reform the Seekers, etc.

 

Yes, her ideas for change may not be as expansive as Leliana's, but like you I felt that baby steps were needed. That decision was reinforced for me by the epilogue slide, which says that some people found even Cassandra's relatively minor reforms too great. So I stand by my decision to make Cassandra the Divine; I think she is well-placed to start the Chantry on a better path, and I'm not worried about her trying to forcibly convert non-humans to her faith.



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I've always thought Vivienne changed the least about the Chantry.  She reinstates the Circles and the Templars and forces the mages back into the Circles.  She completely returns things to how they were (which is what was causing the problems to begin with).  Cassandra invites the mages to return but doesn't force them although I don't recall what she does about the Templars.  Vivienne might be the most radical choice for Divine because she's a mage but she's also the most staunchly conservative of the three choices.  Cassandra wants moderate change and Leliana changes things a great deal.

 

My personal belief is that the Chantry *has* to change to remain relevant.  Returning things to the way they were and ruling with an iron fist (Vivienne) is only going to restart the cycle that lead to the rebellion.  Cassandra wants to change things a little but not enough.  Leliana I think is heading in the right direction although probably too fast.

 

Vivienne opens the way for mages to be in leadership positions.  That's a radical change by itself.

 

Cassandra will keep mages in the Towers, and she will police those Circle Towers with templars.  She claims they won't be prisoners, that templars will be used as protectors and not as jailers, but effectively she changes nothing.  Maybe it's different if you pick different dialogue options for her, just as it is with Leliana.  Cassandra wants to restore order by making things mostly the same as they were, and so that's what she does if she's made Divine.  And that's how all this mess happened--it began the way that Cassandra wants to deal with things, but it ended up with mages as prisoners and templars as jailers.  The most likely outcome is that over generations the notion that templars should be guardians rather than jailers for mages would once again decay and you'd get another rebellion.  The only upside is that Cassandra will, most likely, end the practice of rendering mages Tranquil.  But even that is not guaranteed, since she's the sort who'd believe it may be necessary.

 

As for what Vivienne changes, rather than have the Circles be prisons from which mages can never leave, she allows them to earn the right to more freedom, and she's very open about this.  Plus, again, she makes it possible for mages to be in leadership positions, something that Cassandra vehemently opposes.  The most likely outcome of this is that, although other races will not enjoy the freedoms that Leliana offers, mages will eventually gain total freedom from being bound to the Circles.  Why?  Because mages who earn their freedom will earn people's trust, and eventually, long after Vivienne is dead and gone, most people will not see mages as a threat.  Therefore, mages might train at a Circle but then be free for the rest of their lives.  However, the Rite of Tranquility definitely would still be standing in Vivienne's Chantry.

 

You could argue that, although moderate changes are best in theory, Vivienne is worst because she sets up the potential for a magocracy along the lines of the Tevinter Imperium.  But it really looks like that is where things are going regardless, because personally I believe Solas is going to succeed whether we stop him or not.  Everyone's going to be a mage...

 

 

My experience of the game was different than yours. I accidentally hardened Leliana early in the game when I had my Inquisitor say that the Inquisition scouts who died knew what they had signed up for, instead of the more motherly option of saying 'no one is expendable,' which is true but didn't seem to fit the moment. As a result, during Leliana's personal quest, in spite of choosing the 'softening' options, I could not prevent her from slitting Sister Natalie's throat, and when I had my Inquisitor confront Leliana about it, she was kind of bitchy towards her. I am pretty sure that my Leliana would slit the throats of anyone who opposed her ideas about the direction the Chantry should go, and her words definitely made me think she would forcibly convert non-human people to the Chantry.

 

As a counterpoint, I never noticed Cassandra mocking my Inquisitor Lavellan's beliefs. Sure, she wished I would become Andrastian but she didn't hold it against me when I didn't. When we recovered the Book of Secrets, Cassandra was determined not to keep it secret any longer. She vowed to look into the Circles, the treatment of Tranquil, and reversing the Rite of Tranquility, although she was concerned about how the newly un-Tranquil would manage. She favoured the idea of reforming the Chantry, refocusing its efforts on serving the community, she accepted my suggestion to reform the Seekers, etc.

 

Yes, her ideas for change may not be as expansive as Leliana's, but like you I felt that baby steps were needed. That decision was reinforced for me by the epilogue slide, which says that some people found even Cassandra's relatively minor reforms too great. So I stand by my decision to make Cassandra the Divine; I think she is well-placed to start the Chantry on a better path, and I'm not worried about her trying to forcibly convert non-humans to her faith.

 

It probably is what we chose as dialogue options.  Cass openly derided the ancient elven gods in my Dalish Inquisitor's presence.  These were gods my character believed in her whole life, and Cass was telling her what idiots the Dalish were to believe in them.  She also demanded of my Inquisitor why she couldn't believe in just one more god, early on... long before she began mocking my Inquisitor's long-held faith.

 

As for Leliana, yes I softened her.  And although hardened Leliana is a cruel woman, I still don't think she'd force people to convert or else.  She'd force them to toe the line or else... but she's smart enough to know that forced conversion is going to foment a massive rebellion, just like forcing the mages into prisons solely because of an accident of birth eventually brought forth a rebellion.  If she's not smart enough to figure that out, then she's nowhere near the clever person the writers have made her out to be over the past three games.

 

Of the three options, I'm reasonably sure Solas would prefer Leliana, and I'm not sure, cynical person that he is, he wouldn't prefer hardened Leliana.  After all, he'd think you needed to back your changes with force as much as (if not more than) diplomacy.



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*snip*

 

It probably is what we chose as dialogue options.  *snip*

 

Likely that and also the way we interpret words and body language as spoken and animated in the game. We're different people. :)

 

ETA: Cassandra is not opposed to mages in leadership positions, or opening the Chantry to non-humans, either... Here's some Cassandra dialogue (emphasis mine):

 

"The Circle of Magi has its place, but needs reform. Let the mages govern themselves, with our help. Let the templars stand not as the jailors of mages, but as protectors of the innocent. We must be vigilant, but we must also be compassionate to all peoples of Thedas, human or no. That is what I would change."

 

"If we are to spread the Maker's word across the world, we must do so with open hearts and open hands."

 

Cassandra: What the Templars did to you, to the real Cole... I knew the treatment was harsh, but...
Cole: Yes. Beatings, worse. "Do you remember telling me no? You can't do that now. The Tranquil don't say no to anything."
Cassandra: Maker's breath!
Cole: Not all, but enough. The good templars were too afraid to stop the others.
Cassandra: Whatever happens in the future, there will be changes to how templars and mages govern themselves.
Cassandra: The Inquisition may have a say in such changes. I... would appreciate any insight you might have.
Cole: Compassion and faith. Not all, but a start. I can help. I can try.

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The most likely outcome of this is that, although other races will not enjoy the freedoms that Leliana offers, mages will eventually gain total freedom from being bound to the Circles.  Why?  Because mages who earn their freedom will earn people's trust, and eventually, long after Vivienne is dead and gone, most people will not see mages as a threat.  Therefore, mages might train at a Circle but then be free for the rest of their lives.  However, the Rite of Tranquility definitely would still be standing in Vivienne's Chantry.

 

That's... an extremely optimistic take on things. What about mages that break and abuse that trust? I mean, part of Vivienne's argument is that the Circles protect mages from common people as much as they protect common people from mages. And that idea's not without merit - given the massive power discrepancy between even an untrained mage and a normal commoner, peace would always be tenuous at best. Even if you believe your neighbor is so well trained that they won't burst into a blood-thirsty demon at the slightest temptation, there's nothing stopping them from being a good ol' fashioned dick. Imagine if you lived next to someone capable of controlling your mind or killing you with a thought. You'd always be suspicious of them, no matter how nice. Never mind making sure all mages are strong enough to resist possession, you'd have to ensure that all mages are nice enough people to not abuse the superpowers they were born with. And assure all the non-mage people that you've managed that. There's simply no realistic way to make that happen.

 

Even leaving aside the demons and blood magic, mages are so much more powerful than the average person. Such an in-born power discrepancy is always going to lead to abuse, and fear of abuse, and preemptive measures to prevent abuse, and retaliatory measures to take revenge because abuse was assumed when none was there...

 

It's why I imagine Solas is so black-and-white on the issue, even though total and unrestrained freedom isn't a very practical solution. Because where he's from - when he's from - there weren't any non-mages to worry about. And if he has his way, there probably won't be again.

 

But I doubt Vivienne would've reacted well if their mage rights debate ended in him going "Oh, well, see I'm going to destroy the world and remake it as being full of mages, so we don't really have to worry about peasants murdering known us out of fear."

 

The takeaway here is that Solas is secretly Magneto.



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still having interesting discussions. love Solas thread  :D <3


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The takeaway here is that Solas is secretly Magneto.

 

Dun, dun, dunnnn:

 

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The takeaway here is that Solas is secretly Magneto.

 

Friends turned rivals, both seeking to remake the world in their own way, who share a mutual respect and/or unresolved sexual tension.

 

Yeah, Solas and the the Inquisitor are most definitely the Thedas equivalent of Magneto and Professor X.


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If Solas is Magneto and the Inquisitor is Professor X...

 

Would that mean that Fenris is Wolverine?

 

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-snip-

Cassandra: Whatever happens in the future, there will be changes to how templars and mages govern themselves.
Cassandra: The Inquisition may have a say in such changes. I... would appreciate any insight you might have.
Cole: Compassion and faith. Not all, but a start. I can help. I can try.

 

 

I tried to make Leliana divine but my Lavellan's friendship with Cassandra was too strong. I think Cassandra has the best balance in moderation. One of Solas' problems is extremism and that just doesn't sit well with me or my Lavellan's views of how things should be done. Compromise has been her #1 motto.

 

Both Solas and Leliana believe that sacrifices will garner results...that's not how things work. 


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I tried to make Leliana divine but my Lavellan's friendship with Cassandra was too strong. I think Cassandra has the best balance in moderation. One of Solas' problems is extremism and that just doesn't sit well with me or my Lavellan's views of how things should be done. Compromise has been her #1 motto.

 

Both Solas and Leliana believe that sacrifices will garner results...that's not how things work. 

 

Sometimes it does. It depends what sacrifices we're talking about, in most cases. Hardened Leliana would be OK with some sacrificing people - softened Leliana ta best talks about sacrificing traditions. I don't mind those.



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Friends turned rivals, both seeking to remake the world in their own way, who share a mutual respect and/or unresolved sexual tension.

 

Yeah, Solas and the the Inquisitor are most definitely the Thedas equivalent of Magneto and Professor X.

 

Not to mention that Young Magneto is also pretty hot.

 

...What? Michael Fassbender's attractive! Don't give me that look.


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I tried to make Leliana divine but my Lavellan's friendship with Cassandra was too strong. I think Cassandra has the best balance in moderation. One of Solas' problems is extremism and that just doesn't sit well with me or my Lavellan's views of how things should be done. Compromise has been her #1 motto.

 

Both Solas and Leliana believe that sacrifices will garner results...that's not how things work. 

 

My Lavellan was also most inclined to use diplomacy and compromise to resolve conflicts. Which generally worked out, except when it came to the Clan Lavellan war table quests. There, diplomacy bit her in the ass, much to her regret.



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Art post.

 

Solas and Lavellan cyber AU.

 

Sad wolf. :(

 

Solas sketch.


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Solas' #1 problem according to my Lavellan: swallowing his pride/ego to accept compromise. What irony...LOL



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Just dropping in to show you guys my fourth child, the Solasmancer, Nehn. 

 

I finally got around to extracting her cinematics I had save points at from my Xbox.

 

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I made a collected video of her romance scenes. At the same time I extracted the cinemtaics of my fifth child, Caspian the Dickquisitor who loathed Solas. I feel like his playthrough was born out of revenge for Nehn on some level and after putting together her video I needed to watch Caspian yell and argue with Solas for a bit.


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No Solas, but we're largely elf lovers here, so...

 

Sad Lavellan comic by remington-zero.


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"Dorian: Locking people into cages isn't the answer.

Vivienne: Naturally. First we execute those who will not submit, then we deal with the rest."

Yeah.