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AlleluiaElizabeth

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He just has slightly oily skin :P Maybe he could do with a good cleanser and some moisturizer.

Way to kill the romance, Moondreamer... <_<

 

Those are unshed tears, dammit!


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Way to killt he romance, Moondreamer... <_<

And when he smiles he has crows feet, which is totally adorable and makes me melt.


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Oh, that's a nice shot. I like that one. ^_^

Thank you.  :) It's one of my personal favorites I captured.

 

... Don't eat radioactive waste? :D

:lol: Dammit, Solas! Didn't he read the warning labels?

 

I was just hoping that he shed a tear breaking up with Lavellan -_-

No reason you can't say he didn't. 



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I nominate this for hottest screencap ever.

renanlavellan.tumblr.com:

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Nope, not putting it in spoilers. The sexiness should not be minimized.
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The look in his eyes in that one breaks my heart :( Like, he should be happy, but all he can see if the road ahead and it makes him so grim.


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Mmm, I don't know if u mean the renanlavellan shot I posted. He doesn't look sad per se....he looks....hnnngg... Like he's considering. Or just curious.
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Cole actually says in some flavor dialogue that the spirits are "fleeing to the far corners of the Fade" in preparation for what's coming. So I don't think they feel particularly comfortable with Solas' plans, either. Its a logical assumption that spirits who will be exposed to a veil-less Thedas "burning in raw chaos" will likely be made into demons from the overwhelming confusion and aforementioned chaos.

 

 

Huh, interesting, considering Solas completely flips whenever a spirit is unwillingly exposed to the other side and turned into a demon, one'd think he'd do whatever he could to avoid that.



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Mmm, I don't know if u mean the renanlavellan shot I posted. He doesn't look sad per se....he looks....hnnngg... Like he's considering. Or just curious.

It was. And perhaps it's the damn feelz making me think he looks grimmer than he actually is. He could give Broody a run for his money, I think :P


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Huh, interesting, considering Solas completely flips whenever a spirit is unwillingly exposed to the other side and turned into a demon, one'd think he'd do whatever he could to avoid that.

I would have though that, too.

 

But then I remember Adamant. I chose the option leading up to it, when speaking of the Grey Warden's "demon army to kill the old gods" plan, that the plan itself was sound, just the demon army was the dodgy part. And he said something to the effect of how demons being summoned was inconsequential. Which struck me then (and still does) as extremely odd b/c until that point in the game Solas was the first person to speak of innocent spirits being twisted into demons and how bad this was. I mean, I suppose they were summoning already existing demons, not turning benevolent spirits into them, but still. The focus on teh deaths of the untainted old gods, to the exclusion of concern for this army of fade denizens, still strikes me.

 

 

It was. And perhaps it's the damn feelz making me think he looks grimmer than he actually is. He could give Broody a run for his money, I think  :P

Ah, to see Fenris in Frostbite 3... :wub:

 

(Or maybe not, considering some Alistair fan's opinions on his transition. lol)



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[snips]

 

 

Ah, to see Fenris in Frostbite 3... :wub:

 

(Or maybe not, considering some Alistair fan's opinions on his transition. lol)

As long as he doesn't turn into Teagan, I'd be happy. Alistair looked fine to me. Older perhaps and more world-weary, but still the Alistair I remembered. I'd love seeing Fenris make an appearance in DA4 just to see him done in Frostbite. Oh well, a girl can dream.


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I want to see Anders in Frostbite 3

Then I want to see him with his Justice glowy eyes and Solas with his glowy eyes in the same shot mmm
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Plus or minus whatever, the Dalish are, quite literally, a fringe group.  And one that's dying out.  They've held onto what remains of Elvhen culture, which is quite noble.  But too many of them are stuck in the past.  Something Solas seems to be even more guilty of, given his plans.  They're trying to rebuild a world that never actually existed rather than trying to better the one they live in now.

 

The Dalish actually adapted to their nomadic lifestyle after the fall of the Dales, from the materials they use (like ironbark to craft their weapons) to their magic (which is nature based). According to WoT: "Their spells have evolved to be deeply rooted in nature, manipulating earthly forces with a heavy emphasis on herbalism and healing." (page 104)

 

Solas wants to recreate the world as it was before; the Dalish (for the most part) want a kingdom where they have autonomy from the Chantry and human rule.



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The Dalish actually adapted to their nomadic lifestyle after the fall of the Dales, from the tools they use (like ironbark) to their magic (which is nature based). According to WoT: "Their spells have evolved to be deeply rooted in nature, manipulating earthly forces with a heavy emphasis on herbalism and healing." (page 104)

 

Solas wants to recreate the world as it was before; the Dalish (for the most part) want a kingdom where they have autonomy from the Chantry and human rule.

 

Solas wants the world as it was before =/= what Dalish want. Obviously there's was more to the world "how it was before" that nobody, including the Dalish, really remember - nor I really think the Dalish want to get themselves out of the shoe of humans to get themselves under a shoe of Evanuris or Evanuris-wannabees.

 

Let me put this this way... many of my fellow countrymen really, really want(ed, at times when we were oppressed) to return to time when our country was actually pretty powerful and important. Most like(d) to imagine that their ancestors were part of nobility and as such they were... well, noble and stuff and free and all. What many of them ignore is that in actuality most of us are descendants of poor peasants ruled over by nobility that didn't even consider most of them humans, much less their countrymen and in reality nobody really wants the return of those times...


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Being forbidden from marriage is a pretty strong example of discrimination.

Humans aren't forbidden to marry dwarves, as they're not forbidden to marry elves. It's human royalty that can't marry dwarves or elves or qunari and retaining their titles. It's a specific situation where marriage between different races isn't possible.
Assuming the elves have their own realm, even with good relationships with humans, they wouldn't allow marriages with humans le dwarves.

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The Dalish actually adapted to their nomadic lifestyle after the fall of the Dales, from the materials they use (like ironbark to craft their weapons) to their magic (which is nature based). According to WoT: "Their spells have evolved to be deeply rooted in nature, manipulating earthly forces with a heavy emphasis on herbalism and healing." (page 104)
 
Solas wants to recreate the world as it was before; the Dalish (for the most part) want a kingdom where they have autonomy from the Chantry and human rule.

Solas and the dalish's goals might not be on the same path, depending on what Solas thinks and Wants to do with them.

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Humans aren't forbidden to marry dwarves, as they're not forbidden to marry elves. It's human royalty that can't marry dwarves or elves or qunari and retaining their titles. It's a specific situation where marriage between different races isn't possible.
Assuming the elves have their own realm, even with good relationships with humans, they wouldn't allow marriages with humans le dwarves.

I think, if circumstances were different, a marriage btwn the human monarch of Fereldan and a member of the royal family of Orzammar might actually have been a possibility. But only with a stable Ferelden and a general desire among the nobility to seal an alliance with the dwarves or something. Alistair's circumstances doom the possibility no matter what. His own claim on the throne was tenuous enough to not allow any other special circumstances to be involved in the process. Plus the dwarf he can fall in love with is a fellow tainted Warden, so producing an heir is an issue.


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Solas and the dalish's goals might not be on the same path, depending on what Solas thinks and Wants to do with them.

 

I don't think the goals of Solas and the Dalish are compatible; they clearly don't want the same things. Solas wants to bring down the veil, while the Dalish want an independent kingdom to call their own where they can actually build a future for themselves and follow their beliefs in peace. I don't even think most of the People would trust him due to the stories of Fen'Harel, which I think is a good thing.



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I think, if circumstances were different, a marriage btwn the human monarch of Fereldan and a member of the royal family of Orzammar might actually have been a possibility. But only with a stable Ferelden and a general desire among the nobility to seal an alliance with the dwarves or something. Not with Alistair. His own claim on the throne was tenuous enough to not allow any other special circumstances to be involved in the process. Plus the dwarf he can fall in love with is a fellow tainted Warden, so producing an heir is an issue.

Producing an heir is a issue with a female human Warden as well. Ferelden is doomed to have another succession crisis.
I'm not so sure it'd be allowed, although a dwarf noble has the highest change of being approved compared to every non human background in thedas.
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I don't think the goals of Solas and the Dalish are compatible; they clearly don't want the same things. Solas wants to bring down the veil, while the Dalish want an independent kingdom to call their own where they can actually build a future for themselves and follow their beliefs in peace. I don't even think most of the People would trust him due to the stories of Fen'Harel, which I think is a good thing.

Most dalish wouldn't trust him after they know the truth on the Evanuris as Well.
If anything, the current situation might lead to the dalish being allied against Solas' group, compared to the city elves that support him.

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If Bioware stabs us again, I fear the only option will be insurrection. However, I'm still hoping for Solas being an optional antagonist, like Anders.

 

???

 

I don't know what you mean by "insurrection" but I'm sure the headlines will be priceless.

 

DA2 had the best writing in the series. People need to stop automatically turning up their noses at over-the-top drama, which does have its place in some types of theatrical expression.

 

I mean, it's great the you enjoyed it. But I have a very different opinion. Over-the-top drama is far from my only issue with it, too. (I'd say it's worst issues are lack of motivation and uneven pacing, for one.)



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???

 

I don't know what you mean by "insurrection" but I'm sure the headlines will be priceless.

 

I believe Xil is addressing it as the only option left for the elves of Thedas.



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I believe Xil is addressing it as the only option left for the elves of Thedas.


Based on our conversation after that post, I don't think she was referring to that. She mentioned you and Ghost as Well.

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Based on our conversation after that post, I don't think she was referring to that. She mentioned you and Ghost as Well.

It didn't really mean anything, don't worry.



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It didn't really mean anything, don't worry.


I wasn't already after we talked. I was just mentioning you weren't referring to the elves.

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Lack of motivation?! *facepalm* pretty much the only game with motivation and motivations for every character besides some Disney good vs. evil crap

Hhnnngg