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Responding to someone on public forum is not "stalking".

Also - citing one random book as "proof" hardly constitutes as one. In fact the book you've linked is one from 62 years ago, where ONE historian proposes a hypothesis about Greek mythology being "stolen" from Egyptians, and from what I know the book is not treated seriously as a scholarly source, and circulated mostly in circles not really having much to do with actual scholarly research.

Anyway, from literature I've read it's pretty apparent that *both* nations crossed paths and borrowed elements of each other across many ages, which is natural to every culture and religion - but a lot of elements of Greek and Egyptian mythology has not been mixed in times of antiquity, but somewhat later.

Basically, the whole Greek-Egyptian thing appears to be a legacy of Hermeticism - a hotchpotch of various beliefs slowly sewn together since times of late antiquity to create a peculiar syncretic, esoteric philosophy that has greatly influenced Europe during times of Renaissance and Reformation (Renaissance was a time where Europeans were wildly fascinated with antiquity and created, mixed or conflated many myths and traditions, which even now we oftentimes confuse for myths and traditions as they were during times of antiquity).

Anyway... these traditions are believed by hermetics to be based on writings attributed to Hermes Trismegistus (Thrice Great Hermes) that was basically a syncretic combination of Hermes and Thoth.

But Egypt is one of the most advanced Ancient civilizations and it was some historical context that the Greeks learned their mathematics, architecture, lore, etc from the Egyptian School of Mysteries. The Europeans are just Johnny-Came-Late and as a matter of fact their would be no European culture and renaissance if it wasn't for the Moors who came to Spain in 711 AD who gave them schools, bathhouses, libraries, and they pretty much gave them civilization really. Up until King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella starting to drive the Moors away from Spain because of some fanatical religious crap, and all hell broke loose. Anyways it does make sense and after all Egypt has been conquered by Alexander (hence the city Alexandria) so it explains how the author proves that the Greeks plagiarized from Egypt. http://philipcoppens...gyptgreece.html

Bit don't take my word for it.
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Art post...

 

Gorgeous portrait of Solas and Lavellan.

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Source: https://fenrirsruthl...er-this-morning

 

Lavellan kissing Solas on the cheek. <3

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Source: http://artbyanca.tum...-ill-think-of-a

 

So evil, so full of darkness. :P

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Source: http://meadowslittle...l-of-darkness-i

 

A lovely Solas pencil sketch.

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Source: http://stupidere.tum...oooolf-and-i-am

 

One Punch Dread Wolf. :lol:

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But Egypt is one of the most advanced Ancient civilizations and it was some historical context that the Greeks learned their mathematics, architecture, lore, etc from the Egyptian School of Mysteries. The Europeans are just Johnny-Came-Late and as a matter of fact their would be no European culture and renaissance if it wasn't for the Moors who came to Spain in 711 AD who gave them schools, bathhouses, libraries, and they pretty much gave them civilization really. Up until King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella starting to drive the Moors away from Spain because of some fanatical religious crap, and all hell broke loose. Anyways it does male sense and after all Egypt has been conquered by Alexander (hence the city Alexandria) so it explains how the author proves that the Greeks plagiarized from Egypt. http://philipcoppens...gyptgreece.html

Bit don't take my word for it.

 

Hey, if you want to argue that many inventions, discoveries or traditions are not as "European" as some think they are then I'm all for it.

 

...But there's big difference between recognizing and honoring the fact that many cultures outside of Europe contributed to a great deal of advancements of our civilization and so on... and your claims that "Europeans are just Johnny-Came-Lately thieves" basically.

 

That's just historically inaccurate BS.

 

Take algerba for example - we can find its roots as far as Babylon. Then, basically, Greeks came and expanded on it (together with Indian mathematicians). Then Muslims/Persians came and expanded on it (hence it bears Arabic-derived name). Then French came and expanded on it. And so on and so forth, with many steps in-between.

 

As you see it's not as simple. Many cultures took many existing ideas and either appropriated, adapted or expanded on them. It was like that with Europenan culture. It was like that with ancient Greek culture. And it was like that with Egyptian culture as well, that with Egypt being neighbor to other great Northeastern African kingdoms (like ancient Nubia) or Mesopotamian ones, like Assyrians.

 

Btw. Egypt is not the only advanced ancient civilization; which is why culturally the Greeks appear to be actually more influenced by highly advanced Minoan civilization from Crete with which they've competed and warred during times way prior to emergence of Hellenic Greece, up until a giant volcanic eruption and subsequent tsunami has ended the maritime supremacy of their trading fleet. Minoans were so advanced in fact (and their downfall so dramatic) that we have enough reasons to believe they were a basis for Plato to create the myth of Atlantis.

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But Egypt is one of the most advanced Ancient civilizations and it was some historical context that the Greeks learned their mathematics, architecture, lore, etc from the Egyptian School of Mysteries. The Europeans are just Johnny-Came-Late and as a matter of fact their would be no European culture and renaissance if it wasn't for the Moors who came to Spain in 711 AD who gave them schools, bathhouses, libraries, and they pretty much gave them civilization really. Up until King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella starting to drive the Moors away from Spain because of some fanatical religious crap, and all hell broke loose. Anyways it does make sense and after all Egypt has been conquered by Alexander (hence the city Alexandria) so it explains how the author proves that the Greeks plagiarized from Egypt. http://philipcoppens...gyptgreece.html

Bit don't take my word for it.

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Today it didn't rain, and yesterday it didn't rain, because I am in California, and we are having a drought. 

 

I am working in my home office. My laundry is spinning so fast I think it is gonna go into the future.

 

I still like Solas. 


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Today it didn't rain, and yesterday it didn't rain, because I am in California, and we are having a drought.

 

Am in California. Can confirm. Plz send water bottle.


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Today it didn't rain, and yesterday it didn't rain, because I am in California, and we are having a drought. 

 

I am working in my home office. My laundry is spinning so fast I think it is gonna go into the future.

 

I still like Solas. 

 

My foot still hurts.  Stupid heel spurs  ><

 

It rained earlier today then stayed really hot and humid the rest of the day.  Yay summers in Pennsylvania.

 

I'm glad so many people here like Solas,  Wait, this is the Solas thread?  Well that explains it.


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I live in Nevada, it also hasn't rained in months here. Please...

 

e40bb2188f42fd247c93cb0fba544c32430647c6

 

I like Solas too. <3


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Am in California. Can confirm. Plz send water bottle.

 

Will trade one water bottle for one watermelon plz confirm. 

 

My foot still hurts.  Stupid heel spurs  ><

 

It rained earlier today then stayed really hot and humid the rest of the day.  Yay summers in Pennsylvania.

 

I'm glad so many people here like Solas,  Wait, this is the Solas thread?  Well that explains it.

 

Owwwie I hope your foot feels better soon. D: 

 

I like Solas. I want to see if I still like him in DA4. I think I will. I mean, he's SOLAS. Lately when I see expiration dates, like "Good until 5/2018", I think, hmm, I wonder if DA4 will be out by then? :P


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You shouldn't believe everything on the internet. 



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Will trade one water bottle for one watermelon plz confirm. 

 

 

Owwwie I hope your foot feels better soon. D: 

 

I like Solas. I want to see if I still like him in DA4. I think I will. I mean, he's SOLAS. Lately when I see expiration dates, like "Good until 5/2018", I think, hmm, I wonder if DA4 will be out by then? :P

 

Sadly, I wonder if we'll even get any news by then  ><

 

Edit to add:  Also, thanks!


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I'm sorry, I did try and make a post earlier today about Solas that everyone could talk about.   It almost worked.   2018 seems a long way away.


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Today it didn't rain, and yesterday it didn't rain, because I am in California, and we are having a drought. 

 

I am working in my home office. My laundry is spinning so fast I think it is gonna go into the future.

 

I still like Solas. 

 

 

Am in California. Can confirm. Plz send water bottle.

 

 

My foot still hurts.  Stupid heel spurs  ><

 

It rained earlier today then stayed really hot and humid the rest of the day.  Yay summers in Pennsylvania.

 

I'm glad so many people here like Solas,  Wait, this is the Solas thread?  Well that explains it.

 

 

I live in Nevada, it also hasn't rained in months here. Please...

 

e40bb2188f42fd247c93cb0fba544c32430647c6

 

I like Solas too. <3

 

I live in a city that is known in Sweden for being the nation's "water drain"... Can I please have the sun and warmth you do not want? Pretty please with sprinkles on top?

 

Had to continue studying today... realized why the word "studying" has the "dying" part in it.

 

Liking Solas really seems to be a thing here, doesn't it?


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Today it didn't rain, and yesterday it didn't rain, because I am in California, and we are having a drought.

I am working in my home office. My laundry is spinning so fast I think it is gonna go into the future.

I still like Solas.


Huh. I thought that problem was already over. Do you guys always go through a drought?

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I'm sorry, I did try and make a post earlier today about Solas that everyone could talk about.   It almost worked.   2018 seems a long way away.

 

You did, and it was very interesting! I had no idea the lineage of Shartan's sword. I recalled the Avaar poem being based on an earlier elven one, but to also have an Avaar sword with an elven name? I really don' have a whole lot to add, except that I never made this connection before. If Andraste was elf blooded...?

 

It did also strike me as remarkable that Sera recites a descendant of a poem that is about the guy whose sleeping bag she fills with snakes. I love the irony in DAI. 

 

Huh. I thought that problem was already over. Do you guys always go through a drought?

Nope, still ongoing. We've had droughts before (I'm not sure how regularly) but this one is particularly severe. 



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Huh. I thought that problem was already over. Do you guys always go through a drought?

 

Where I live, droughts are pretty common and water restrictions are thoroughly unremarkable. There's a reason all the natural flora around here's just oak trees and cacti. 

 

We had the "honor" being named one of the top five hottest cities in America. Also my grass looks like hay and all of my plants are dead.



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Where I live, droughts are pretty common and water restrictions are thoroughly unremarkable. There's a reason all the natural flora around here's just oak trees and cacti. 

 

We had the "honor" being named one of the top five hottest cities in America. Also my grass looks like hay and all of my plants are dead.

 

Poland is bizarre in that sense that it's predominantly green and full of farmlands, but in terms of water per person statistically it has as much water as Egypt...



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Nope, still ongoing. We've had droughts before (I'm not sure how regularly) but this one is particularly severe. 

Worst California drought in 1,200 years if I recall correctly. 



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Worst California drought in 1,200 years if I recall correctly. 

I haven't heard that figure, but we've had ridiculously hot winters; this past winter it was in the mid to upper 80s Fahrenheit in February and March (and I'm on the coast!) My blueberries bloomed prematurely and then died  (in a similar, previous winter, in January). So I wouldn't be surprised if that figure is true.

 

I'd pray to Fen'Harel to save us, but I know better. :P


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I haven't heard that figure, but we've had ridiculously hot winters; this past winter it was in the mid to upper 80s Fahrenheit in February and March (and I'm on the coast!) My blueberries bloomed prematurely and then died  (in a similar, previous winter, in January). So I wouldn't be surprised if that figure is true.

 

I'd pray to Fen'Harel to save us, but I know better. :P

He will probably send a tsunami your way  <_<


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He will probably send a tsunami your way  <_<

When did I say I would save you? Hang ten dudes.  <_<


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I haven't heard that figure, but we've had ridiculously hot winters; this past winter it was in the mid to upper 80s Fahrenheit in February and March (and I'm on the coast!) My blueberries bloomed prematurely and then died  (in a similar, previous winter, in January). So I wouldn't be surprised if that figure is true.

 

I'd pray to Fen'Harel to save us, but I know better. :P

*goes to look up what 85 degrees Fahrenheit is in Celsius*

 

30 DEGREES IN WINTER!! *spills coffee everywhere*

I wish I could send you a blast of Antarctic air we're getting right now. That is just straight up horrible.


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I haven't heard that figure, but we've had ridiculously hot winters; this past winter it was in the mid to upper 80s Fahrenheit in February and March (and I'm on the coast!) My blueberries bloomed prematurely and then died (in a similar, previous winter, in January). So I wouldn't be surprised if that figure is true.

I'd pray to Fen'Harel to save us, but I know better. :P


He is a slow arrow. You probably will get your answer after almost everyone dies of dehydration.

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You shouldn't believe everything on the internet. 

 

Exactly, nor does one fringe source automatically mean QED.

 

(Besides, the Egyptians owe their civilisation to the Goa'uld anyway, so this entire thing is moot) ;)


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Exactly, nor does one fringe source automatically mean QED.

 

(Besides, the Egyptians owe their civilisation to the Goa'uld anyway, so this entire thing is moot) ;)

It wasn't even a legit source to begin with.  :D