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True, okay he didn't drop anyone actually into the Blight, but there must have been some sort of booby trap for them to be thrown back out again.  May be it is just there is something about the Fade now because of the Veil that you need the anchor to stay there.   Which is why Corypheus was so anxious to get hold of it again because he knows he can't permanently get into the Black City without it.   I've felt for a long time that the Golden nature of the city was just an illusion of what it was before the Veil and like Cory says, it was already black when they got there, which broke the illusion, so that is why it appeared black thereafter.   

 

I keep feeling that the Old Gods and the Evanuris are connected in some way.    He was just too frantic about stopping the Grey Wardens that he at least knows what the Old Gods are even if they aren't the split soul of the Evanuris.   When you throw in Flemeth/Mythal's interest there has to be some sort of connection.


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I don't think he booby trapped anything. I think the Golden City became corrupted by the Taint the Evanuris already had.

 

Solas probably assumed no one could get in the Fade, at least not physically, and not to the Golden City especially. If the Veil was at least partially a quarantine measure, to keep the Blight out of the physical world, why would he intentionally drop people there? Especially given his own hatred for Blight magic?

Not to be pedantic about it, but do we have some kind of mention from Solas about a hatred for Blight-sourced magic that I missed? I mean, Blight magic is bad, cus Blight, obviously, but I don't recall Solas mentioning a particular hatred of it?



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Not to be pedantic about it, but do we have some kind of mention from Solas about a hatred for Blight-sourced magic that I missed? I mean, Blight magic is bad, cus Blight, obviously, but I don't recall Solas mentioning a particular hatred of it?

 

He's not a fan of the Wardens and their plan to wipe out the Old Gods, as well as the lengths they are prepared to go to prevent future Blights. But they seemed to be using blood magic at Adamant, which are separate schools entirely according to Avernus in DAO.

 

The only real Blight magic wielder in Inquisition is Corypheus, who's got enough reasons to be considered bad anyway.



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Not to be pedantic about it, but do we have some kind of mention from Solas about a hatred for Blight-sourced magic that I missed? I mean, Blight magic is bad, cus Blight, obviously, but I don't recall Solas mentioning a particular hatred of it?

 

Quoth the banter:

 

  • Vivienne: You disapprove of Corypheus using the magic of the blight, Solas?
  • Solas:Every intelligent creature should.
  • Vivienne:Yet you raise no objection to the Grey Wardens using blood magic.
  • Solas: Blood magic is no worse than any other, properly used. But the Blight…
  • Solas: The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad.

 

Further banter:

 

 

  • Vivienne: Corypheus is a complex creature, to draw upon so many different sources of power.
  • Vivienne: He has his own magic, he draws from the blight, the artifact he carries is elven…
  • Vivienne: And now, he uses a demon to create a false Calling to fool the mages.
  • Solas: The false Calling was blight magic. The demon merely amplified its power.
  • Vivienne: This ancient magister is like a man drinking from three wineglasses at once.
  • Solas: And one of the glasses is poisoned.

He seems to believe the Joining is some form of Blight magic, too. Explains why he doesn't like them.


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The other thing to consider is that there are two uncorrupted Old Gods out there somewhere, assuming of course that they weren't sealed away because they were tainted and the song that draws the darkspawn is the tainted song, which is why they are so determined to break through.   If they are uncorrupted, do you suppose they would be friends or foes of Solas?



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Quoth the banter:

 

  • Vivienne: You disapprove of Corypheus using the magic of the blight, Solas?
  • Solas:Every intelligent creature should.
  • Vivienne:Yet you raise no objection to the Grey Wardens using blood magic.
  • Solas: Blood magic is no worse than any other, properly used. But the Blight…
  • Solas: The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad.

 

Further banter:

 

 

  • Vivienne: Corypheus is a complex creature, to draw upon so many different sources of power.
  • Vivienne: He has his own magic, he draws from the blight, the artifact he carries is elven…
  • Vivienne: And now, he uses a demon to create a false Calling to fool the mages.
  • Solas: The false Calling was blight magic. The demon merely amplified its power.
  • Vivienne: This ancient magister is like a man drinking from three wineglasses at once.
  • Solas: And one of the glasses is poisoned.

He seems to believe the Joining is some form of Blight magic, too. Explains why he doesn't like them.

And this is why I need to have two mages in my party more often. Thank you. :)

 

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  • Vivienne: And now, he uses a demon to create a false Calling to fool the mages.
  • Solas: The false Calling was blight magic. The demon merely amplified its power.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, EGGMAN?! HOW?!!!?! *breathes heavily*

 

The Blight is the single greatest threat to Thedas in existence and he knows stuff about it he's not sharing and its driving me nuts. 


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Art post.

 

Gorgeous art of Solas and Lavellan in beautiful fancy outfits.  :wub:

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Source: http://smailika.tumb...han-never-right

 

Solas and Lavellan kissing <3

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Source: http://e-denoir.tumb...ox-or-something

 

Concept!Solas.

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Source: http://poedamerass.t...ne-took-a-while


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#152483
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And Last Flight explains that Blight magic, which is what the archdemons use as well, is the magic of the Void.   So it was helpful hearing Solas confirm that it is wholly corruptive.   I think that is what the  Evanuris were doing at the end, drawing on magic of the Void, either through the red lyrium or without it.   If they were, no wonder he thought it imperative to shut them away.

 

Small light bulb moment; do you suppose it was Blight magic that they used to kill Mythal?



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And Last Flight explains that Blight magic, which is what the archdemons use as well, is the magic of the Void.   So it was helpful hearing Solas confirm that it is wholly corruptive.   I think that is what the  Evanuris were doing at the end, drawing on magic of the Void, either through the red lyrium or without it.   If they were, no wonder he thought it imperative to shut them away.

 

Small light bulb moment; do you suppose it was Blight magic that they used to kill Mythal?

Well, it does straightup say in soem legends that Andruil went into the void and came back crazy b/c of the experience. If Blight magic is indeed confirmed to be magic of the void (I really need to read Last Flight), then I'd say that definitely means Adnruil encountered the Blight. It also means Mythal apparently knows how to cure it. And it.. involves dragon bites? I dunno. lol Or was it that each time Andruil wounded Mythal in dragon form, she lost a bit of her madness? I forget.



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And this is why I need to have two mages in my party more often. Thank you. :)

 

Also:

  • Vivienne: And now, he uses a demon to create a false Calling to fool the mages.
  • Solas: The false Calling was blight magic. The demon merely amplified its power.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT, EGGMAN?! HOW?!!!?! *breathes heavily*

 

The Blight is the single greatest threat to Thedas in existence and he knows stuff about it he's not sharing and its driving me nuts. 

 

I actually never had Vivienne and Solas in the same party. I never used Vivienne until Solas left (I went through the entire base game with Solas, Cass, and Varric, or as I like to call it, Team Change Is Scary.) But I read all the companion banter on the wiki, and someone I follow on Tumblr likes datamining the game to see what she can dig up, so I've seen that banter a few times.

 

True, okay he didn't drop anyone actually into the Blight, but there must have been some sort of booby trap for them to be thrown back out again.  May be it is just there is something about the Fade now because of the Veil that you need the anchor to stay there.   Which is why Corypheus was so anxious to get hold of it again because he knows he can't permanently get into the Black City without it.   I've felt for a long time that the Golden nature of the city was just an illusion of what it was before the Veil and like Cory says, it was already black when they got there, which broke the illusion, so that is why it appeared black thereafter.   

 

I keep feeling that the Old Gods and the Evanuris are connected in some way.    He was just too frantic about stopping the Grey Wardens that he at least knows what the Old Gods are even if they aren't the split soul of the Evanuris.   When you throw in Flemeth/Mythal's interest there has to be some sort of connection.

 

I figured the Golden City was Golden once - I know a popular theory is that the Golden City's what remains of Arlathan. Which, I mean, Arlathan probably was gold, and it did disappear without a trace. Maybe it was always in the Fade, like the Crossroads. Regardless, I do think it was Gold and then corrupted into what it is now, probably by the Blight.

 

And I get the Old Gods/Evanuris thing, but I still say the Old Gods are more connected to the Forgotten Ones. Seriously, something had to happen to them. And since they had a few mentions in Inquisition, I'm assuming it's not something the devs are trying to sweep under the rug. 

 

Regardless, Solas might be against killing Old Gods simply because it would mean a perpetual Blight on the surface. Awakening seems to suggest that Darkspawn who no longer hear the Call either gain sentience or go mad - naturally, neither would be very good news for any non-Darkspawn.



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I had a few anthropology and literature professors give us materials from sacred-texts.com to save us money on textbooks. It was a good source for that purpose. Depends on how you're using it.

Exactly.

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Exactly.

But what you were using it for was nonsensical. 



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But what you were using it for was nonsensical.

Then how am I wrong besides the sources are based on books by anthropologists and historians and the books such as Stolen Legacy and They Came Before Columbus? You can always find things out for yourself, and if you believe that I'm wrong then prove me wrong.

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Then how am I wrong besides the sources are based on books by anthropologists and historians and the books such as Stolen Legacy and They Came Before Columbus? You can always find things out for yourself, and if you believe that I'm wrong then prove me wrong.

 

Well the Ancient Egyptians were all posers anyway. Ancient Sumeria had polytheistic religion and organized civilization before it was cool. Everyone else is just a copy-cat wannabe  B)


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Quoth the banter:

  • Vivienne: You disapprove of Corypheus using the magic of the blight, Solas?
  • Solas:Every intelligent creature should.
  • Vivienne:Yet you raise no objection to the Grey Wardens using blood magic.
  • Solas: Blood magic is no worse than any other, properly used. But the Blight…
  • Solas: The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad.

Further banter:

  • Vivienne: Corypheus is a complex creature, to draw upon so many different sources of power.
  • Vivienne: He has his own magic, he draws from the blight, the artifact he carries is elven…
  • Vivienne: And now, he uses a demon to create a false Calling to fool the mages.
  • Solas: The false Calling was blight magic. The demon merely amplified its power.
  • Vivienne: This ancient magister is like a man drinking from three wineglasses at once.
  • Solas: And one of the glasses is poisoned.
He seems to believe the Joining is some form of Blight magic, too. Explains why he doesn't like them.

Not sure about that. Solas' main problem with the Grey Wardens seems to be that they slay archdemons and therefore the Old Gods.

As for the reason why the Old Gods are so damn important, I guess we'll have to wait and find out.

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Well the Ancient Egyptians were all posers anyway. Ancient Sumeria had polytheistic religion and organized civilization before it was cool. Everyone else is just a copy-cat wannabe B)

It was said that the Sumerians and Egyptians were the same people which means they believe the same religion and the same advanced culture.

"Both societies are families related by Ancestors - the Anu. In Sumer everyone is related to Anu - the creator - and Anu (the first people); likewise, in Kemet everyone is related to Anu - the creator - and to Anu (the first people)."

The Sumeria is an Ancient African civilization outside of Africa over thousands of years.

(http://kemetway.com/...tent/Sumer.html look @ references @ the bottom of the page to look up books of what the writer got his hypothesis from.)

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Do I see N7Phantom


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Okay so the third major Solavellan tumblr has blocked me. Two of them seem to be from Russia, and they also have the best screencaps in existence. I don't know why I offend all the Russians, and it's stressing me out!



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It was said that the Sumerians and Egyptians were the same people which means they believe the same religion and the same advanced culture.

The Sumeria is an Ancient African civilization outside of Africa over thousands of years.

(http://kemetway.com/...tent/Sumer.html look @ references @ the bottom of the page to look up books of what the writer got his hypothesis from.)

 

It was a joke, dude. All cultures have taken from some other culture. That doesn't devalue it's worth or the worth of any other. Everyone builds on what came before.


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Do I see N7Phantom

Yes, that was N7Phantom, you just saw his spirt coming back here to haunt us. 


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It was said that the Sumerians and Egyptians were the same people which means they believe the same religion and the same advanced culture.
 

Yet you claim that the Greeks and the Eygptians were the same.....  :mellow:  -_-



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It was a joke, dude. All cultures have taken from some other culture. That doesn't devalue it's worth or the worth of any other. Everyone builds on what came before.

:mellow: N7 doesn't understand humor. 



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Yet you claim that the Greeks and the Eygptians were the same.....  :mellow:  -_-

Your comprehension skills needs improvement.

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Your comprehension skills needs improvement.

Your understanding of Greek VS Egyptian Gods need to improve, like seriously here you go! -  http://www.allaboute...greek-gods.htm 

 

Greek Gods tend to reflect just ONE aspect – e.g. Ares – war and Aphrodite – sexual love; Not romance, not brotherly love, sex. The Greek Gods were, shall we say, very focused.  - Poster 



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Your understanding of Greek VS Egyptian Gods need to improve, like seriously here you go! - http://www.allaboute...greek-gods.htm

Greek Gods tend to reflect just ONE aspect – e.g. Ares – war and Aphrodite – sexual love; Not romance, not brotherly love, sex. The Greek Gods were, shall we say, very focused. - Poster

You are telling me stuff that I've already know. But Greece is still Johnny-came-late that they created their gods from aspects from the Egyptian pantheon.