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So you think it's all a big coincidence that the writers just stumble across to write about a game that is based on ancient history and rise and fall of civilizations? Come on its pretty obvious that one of the writers studied history, and current issues of the real world today.

yes drawing on history would be pretty typical, however they aren't drawing from whatever coked up madness that passes for history that you seem to love


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yes drawing on history would be pretty typical, however they aren't drawing from whatever coked up madness that passes for history that you seem to love

Whatever you say dude.

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Solas. It is the long night between games. I need more Solas in my life.
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So you think it's all a big coincidence that the writers just stumble across to write about a game that is based on ancient history and rise and fall of civilizations? Come on its pretty obvious that one of the writers studied history, and current issues of the real world today.

 

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IHaveReturned1999

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Anyways back to the fallen elven god. He needs to forgive himself and he should've taken the opportunity to start over with the elven Inquisitor to settle down with to have something worth fighting for and to have someone who loves him.

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*sighs* Dude you're the one who's taking this personal. It's just my observation of what I have learned from Dragon Age based on history and all. Here's a bandaid for the butthurt. :devil:

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*sighs* Dude you're the one who's taking this personal. It's just my observation of what I have learned from Dragon Age based on history and all. Here's a bandaid for the butthurt. :devil:

:mellow: Huh, I don't feel butthurt at all. 



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Fine'harel. Hnnnnng.

 

Also am I the only one who gets a bit of a chill that Blackwall's question goes unanswered? If there is anyone we know that would have an answer to stop the Blight, it's Solas. What if...he doesn't know?

 

I think he probably doesn't know the answer either.

 

It's actually one of the more interesting examples of Solas being a bit of a "know nothing know it all". He's not wrong to question what happens if the Blights aren't ending after the Wardens kill all the Old Gods, but he seems to be ignoring the obvious fact that it's the only way to stop a Blight that they know of?

 

It's very easy to sit and judge the Wardens for playing with fire by tainting themselves to use the Blight against the Darkspawn, but it's the only proven method of fighting them and has thus far managed to prevent the end of the world five times over. The Wardens may be well-intentioned extremists, but the proof is in the pudding that what they do has thus far been overall positive for the rest of the world.

 

Unless killing the Old Gods is actually making the threat of the Darkspawn worse in some way, what precisely would Solas propose to do to prevent the overwhelming horde of apocalyptic monsters once they burst forth from the ground? Since his own plans seem to go horribly awry, perhaps he should reconsider being an armchair general when it comes to rebuking the Warden's methods?

 

(Not that I'm agreeing with everything Wardens do or the extremes they take, just that I feel that Solas was often overly critical when passing judgement towards them, when the Warden have a hard job and are doing their best with the no-win scenario they've been stuck with.)


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Art post.

 

'A Goddess of his Own' by nipuni. <3

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Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...dess-of-his-own

 

Solavellan comic, Pulchra Tenebris, is back! Pg. 33.

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Source (On Tumblr) : http://thefateshaper...3-solaslavellan

Source: (On DeviantArt): http://kyndredraven....ellan-621870609 - Because the artist prefers that the DeviantArt link be shared but I also shared the Tumblr link for those who want to reblog it.

 

'This is home'. Solavellan. <3

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Source: http://ananjoart.tum...an-this-is-home

 

Awesome WIP sketch of the gang. :D

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Source: http://hopahopa.tumb...3340/working-on


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I recall hearing at some point or other that Dragon Age was partly inspired by Game of Thrones, but I have yet to see strong similarities between them... I wonder if the devs perhaps saw the reign of the Evanuris as similar with GoT? Solas does reminiscence about the "Game" back then, and I got the distinct impression he thought the Game in Orlais was not up to par in comparison. I do like the thought of the Evanuris trying to constantly outmaneuver each other whilst vying for the ultimate power. I do wonder what could possibly have made them all decide that Mythal had to die... 



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I recall hearing at some point or other that Dragon Age was partly inspired by Game of Thrones, but I have yet to see strong similarities between them... I wonder if the devs perhaps saw the reign of the Evanuris as similar with GoT? Solas does reminiscence about the "Game" back then, and I got the distinct impression he thought the Game in Orlais was not up to par in comparison. I do like the thought of the Evanuris trying to constantly outmaneuver each other whilst vying for the ultimate power. I do wonder what could possibly have made them all decide that Mythal had to die... 

It's more of an amalgam of Game of Thrones, Wheel of Time, and Lord of the Rings. The Grey Wardens are like the Watchers on the Wall in GoT; the Templars and the mage Towers/female-ruled Chantry, Darkspawn and the Blight, are like the Warders/Children of Light, the Aes Sedai, Shadowspawn and the Blight in Wheel of Time, and the fantasy races like elves, dwarves and kossith, orcs and such are generally derived from LotR.

 

Honestly, looking at it, Gaider, when he did the primary worldbuilding, kind of did the same thing Wheel of Time does. It scoops of all of the popular fantasy tropes laying around, and puts them in a blender.



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It's more of an amalgam of Game of Thrones, Wheel of Time, and Lord of the Rings. The Grey Wardens are like the Watchers on the Wall in GoT; the Templars and the mage Towers/female-ruled Chantry, Darkspawn and the Blight, are like the Warders/Children of Light, the Aes Sedai, Shadowspawn and the Blight in Wheel of Time, and the fantasy races like elves, dwarves and kossith, orcs and such are generally derived from LotR.

 

Honestly, looking at it, Gaider, when he did the primary worldbuilding, kind of did the same thing Wheel of Time does. It scoops of all of the popular fantasy tropes laying around, and puts them in a blender.

 

Hmm, now that you mention it, I do think you are right about the Wardens and the Night's Watch. Have never read Wheel of Time, so can't really have an opinion on that.

 

I do wonder what the cure to the Blight is; obviously you can cure it since Fiona somehow got rid of it, and it is implied Mythal somehow cured Anduril. The only "connection" I can think of is that Fiona was impregnated by someone who had "dragon blood" in his veins, and the myth about Mythal and Anduril had Mythal defeat her in dragon form. Then again, dragons can obviously be tainted, so... yeah, I am looking forward to that mystery being revealed some day.  :D



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I think the reason that Solas didn't seem to have an answer to the Blight question was "spoilers".   Remember he was also evasive if you ask him why this world has to die.   His response seemed to be "Good question, but I'm not telling you."   May be he didn't want to say too much because then you might sit back and think everything was going to be okay or resign yourself to the fact that he is right and it is the only solution.   He wants you to go out looking for alternatives.  

 

If you think about it, things that Solas clearly ought to know about but didn't expand upon:

Titans

The origins of the dwarves

The origins of the elves

The origins of the kossith/qunari

The origins of humans

Who the Old Gods are

The origins of the Blight - honestly are you telling me he has absolutely no idea about this?

The Forgotten Ones - we were left to assume that Evanuris was a catch all term for the whole elven pantheon yet only the Creators really featured.

Who actually killed Mythal

 

I'm sure you can come up with some other things if you think about it hard enough.  All the things he could have talked about in the Rotunda and all I got was the Shadow Goddess, Barindur, some dwarf disaster and a baker in Par Vollen, among other trivialities.  Oh and the fact that he had visited Flemeth's Hut.  

 

When I finally caught up with him, I could have happily sat there and chatted with him all day.   It's not as though I had any urgent business elsewhere.   The Exalted Council can go **** themselves.     So just neutralise the anchor and tell me a story.   Lots of stories.   Go on Solas, you know you love doing that, and if I'm going to come up with a better plan I need some information to go on.   


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Artses

 

Solas wearing a wolf pelt

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http://gaalagaalko.d...Solas-621974914

 

Hmm...Solas and Bender from Futurama have something in common...

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http://bunnynoldo.de...iguez-621983648

 

Solavellan - One More Night

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http://chiaravenger....Night-621810954


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Art post again. :D

 

WIP - Solas convincing Lavellan she's beautiful. By fenrirsruthlessrose:wub:

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Source: https://fenrirsruthl...g-lavellan-that

 

'Too big shadow' by nanananananablr. (Solas <3)

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Animation of Solas sneezing. Awww.  ^_^

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Source: http://paranoidfacto...ce-of-shit-here

 

Sketch of Solas/skull.

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*looks around*

 

Art post.  :ph34r: Lots of beautiful art!

 

'The Cadence of the Heart'. Beautiful Solavellan tarot card. <3

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Source: http://thereisnomadn...ission-card-for

 

Finished version of Solas convincing Lavellan she's beautiful by fenrirsruthlessrose. <3

(Slightly NSFW I guess because Lavellan is in sexy lingerie and Solas is wearing boxer shorts)

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Source: https://fenrirsruthl...-progress-solas

 

'Fen'Harel ma Ghilana'. Solavellan.

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Two Fade nerds being silly. And blushing.  ^_^

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Lovely sketch of Solas by umabbas

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Amazing art of Trespasser Solas.

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Baker Solas is upset because the fic "Doughnut Rebel" isn't finished. By salesart. Awww. <3

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Solas with blood on his hands.

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Solas looks adorable here. <3

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Hmm, now that you mention it, I do think you are right about the Wardens and the Night's Watch. Have never read Wheel of Time, so can't really have an opinion on that.

 

I do wonder what the cure to the Blight is; obviously you can cure it since Fiona somehow got rid of it, and it is implied Mythal somehow cured Anduril. The only "connection" I can think of is that Fiona was impregnated by someone who had "dragon blood" in his veins, and the myth about Mythal and Anduril had Mythal defeat her in dragon form. Then again, dragons can obviously be tainted, so... yeah, I am looking forward to that mystery being revealed some day.  :D

They can be tainted, but they can also somehow contain it. There's a codex you get from a war table mission about studying the corpse of a dragon you slay. It has the blight, but its body somehow managed to contain the blight in cysts in the creature's body. Which means they can generate tissue that is unaffected by the blight. Not sure how. Maybe its layers of cells that die off and calcify or something around the infected bit? And the taint can't infect those surrounding layers cus the taint only infects living things? I dunno.

 

Whatever it is, it might be related to the Mythal/Andruil thing, but I don't think its connected to Fiona--at least, not in the same way.


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They can be tainted, but they can also somehow contain it. There's a codex you get from a war table mission about studying the corpse of a dragon you slay. It has the blight, but its body somehow managed to contain the blight in cysts in the creature's body. Which means they can generate tissue that is unaffected by the blight. Not sure how. Maybe its layers of cells that die off and calcify or something around the infected bit? And the taint can't infect those surrounding layers cus the taint only infects living things? I dunno.

 

Whatever it is, it might be related to the Mythal/Andruil thing, but I don't think its connected to Fiona--at least, not in the same way.

 

Yeah, I do remember that codex, but doesn't that somewhat contradict the impression that the darkspawn immediately corrupts the Archdemons on finding them? I mean, to my knowledge they don't really roam the countryside as regular dragons before becoming infected (although that would be a sight!)...  ;)



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They can be tainted, but they can also somehow contain it. There's a codex you get from a war table mission about studying the corpse of a dragon you slay. It has the blight, but its body somehow managed to contain the blight in cysts in the creature's body. Which means they can generate tissue that is unaffected by the blight. Not sure how. Maybe its layers of cells that die off and calcify or something around the infected bit? And the taint can't infect those surrounding layers cus the taint only infects living things? I dunno.

 

Whatever it is, it might be related to the Mythal/Andruil thing, but I don't think its connected to Fiona--at least, not in the same way.

 

Honestly, regarding Fiona, the Grey Wardens were a little stupid.  Her existence basically proves there's a way to cure the Blight and make one immune.  I mean, I know this wouldn't necessarily matter to the Grey Wardens as to kill an archdemon they have to be Blighted but for everyone else?  Curing people instead of cutting them down to prevent the spread of the Blight?  Even if the Grey Wardens weren't interested you'd think *someone* would have been but it's completely ignored.


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Yeah, I do remember that codex, but doesn't that somewhat contradict the impression that the darkspawn immediately corrupts the Archdemons on finding them? I mean, to my knowledge they don't really roam the countryside as regular dragons before becoming infected (although that would be a sight!)...  ;)

 

We don't know how the darkspawn manage to taint the Old Gods.  Also, the Old Gods are somehow special/different than a normal dragon or the darkspawn would just go after any dragon they could find.



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We don't know how the darkspawn manage to taint the Old Gods.  Also, the Old Gods are somehow special/different than a normal dragon or the darkspawn would just go after any dragon they could find.

 

Mmm, I guess, but still... feels weird if a regular dragon has a better immune system than an Old God. Unless there is some connection between them that is not apparent? Food for thought either way.

 

One thing I have wondered about is why some people seem to become blighted very quickly whilst others seemingly can function longer before succumbing to its effects. For example, Aveline's husband only lived a short while after the darkspawn stabbed him, but Carver/Bethany seemed to have gone with the blight for days before they became truly ill (unless of course they were infected mere minutes before the cutscene, but if so why not show it?). Is it a matter of will, or something else, that may or may not protect someone from the blight?


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There is something weird about the infection of the archdemon.   When you find that codex about some dwarves discovering an old archdemon prison, it suggests that darkspawn were there worshipping it rather than simply trying to release it.   Also there seems an aura of evil about the prison itself but if the archdemon was released and immediately roamed free, then there shouldn't have been that much residual trace of it in its old prison, which would suggest that the archdemon was already infected before the darkspawn found it and it had been sealed away because it had the Blight.    Just as with the Magisters and the Golden/Black City it seems to hint that they didn't infect the archdemon, they simply released it on the world.   



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There is something weird about the infection of the archdemon.   When you find that codex about some dwarves discovering an old archdemon prison, it suggests that darkspawn were there worshipping it rather than simply trying to release it.   Also there seems an aura of evil about the prison itself but if the archdemon was released and immediately roamed free, then there shouldn't have been that much residual trace of it in its old prison, which would suggest that the archdemon was already infected before the darkspawn found it and it had been sealed away because it had the Blight.    Just as with the Magisters and the Golden/Black City it seems to hint that they didn't infect the archdemon, they simply released it on the world.   

 

I have had similar thoughts, but one thing that may contradict this though is the Architect. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but he tried to use a reversed Joining ritual on Urthemiel, which ultimately failed and led to the start of the fifth Blight. This would imply that Urthemiel was not blighted when the Architect reached him. 


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Lol, this discussion is by far the longest discussion in this subforum right now. I remember the Cullen thread being the biggest long before and after the release of DAI.

I quess after Trespasser this thread underwent quite an explosion.