Umm..I have a question. I have made two new versions of my Atisha Lavellan. One with her original white hair and one with blonde...which one do you like more?
White
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Blonde
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Edit: I'm leaning towards the blonde. The eyebrows just look too weird with the white hair.
Is that a modded hairstyle? Or is it just an angle on that Natalie Dormer look that I just haven't seen before?
Is that a modded hairstyle? Or is it just an angle on that Natalie Dormer look that I just haven't seen before?
It's this hair mod! 
Lovely, thank you. I think I may have found my Trespasser timeskip hair style.
Modifié par coldwetn0se, 20 juillet 2016 - 07:19 .
The HELL is Cullen doing sleeping on the job while a council to decide the fate of the Inquisition is going on?
Goddammit Cullen THIS is why I always leave Josephine in charge. Lazy jerk.
Well you know how much he needs his nap. He gets so grumpy without it. ![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
Anyway, here's something silly to lighten the mood. I sometimes see assumptions by people, mostly fanartists and fanfiction writers that Solas has freckles in other places of his body - shoulders, back, butt and so on.
Here's the thing... IRL at least freckles show up only after exposure to the sun. Nobody gets born with freckles. Sunlight is what triggers them.
I have to laugh then that apparently all these folks who think Solas has freckles... well... everywhere must've spent his gap year between waking form uthenera and joining Inquisition either by enjoying naked sunbaths or skipping naked in the forest in the middle of the day 
Well, elves do like to frolic.... 
However, he could have gotten his freckles before creating the Veil, yes?
Well, elves do like to frolic....
However, he could have gotten his freckles before creating the Veil, yes?
Freckles do fade away in time, and considering Solas had been napping for millenia....
Freckles do fade away in time, and considering Solas had been napping for millenia....
"The orb had built up magical energy for millennia. I was not powerful enough to open it. I used all my magical energy to maintain these glorious freckles."
*dramatic pelt flip*
I started a conversation about this over in the General Spoiler Discussion, but I'm curious what the Solas thread thinks....
What would your opinion be if Solas killed the Inquisitor at the end of Trustpasser? Assume there's no way to stop it: the Inquisitor is dying anyway, and he spares you the pain of the mark tearing you apart. Assume he kills you rather then just taking your arm at the end of the conversation.
What would you think?
"Trustpasser?" Strangely appropriate freudian slip?
Well, if there really was no way to save her ...
I'd be okay with him doing it if she asked him to. But the thing is, my Lavellan probably wouldn't do that to him. She'd probably ask Cassandra to do it, or maybe Leliana if she was around. Or Cole. And only if she was very very sure there was no hope, and she didn't yet know about Solas' plans for the Veil.
If he'd just decided on his own that she needed to be 'spared the pain' and 'go in his arms', I would not have been okay with it in any way, shape or form. Ever. I would probably have gone full hulk rage. And I doubt I'd be playing DA4. Not as a protest - it's just the memory would have been hard to get over. I mean, I still have never replayed Trespasser 
Tell that to the freckles all over my arms, legs, and shoulders. I work night shift and avoid the sun.
Um ... somebody's been sneaking you out into the sunshine while you're asleep?
Most people are severely Vitamin D deficient, just saying.
"Trustpasser?" Strangely appropriate freudian slip?
Well, if there really was no way to save her ...
I'd be okay with him doing it if she asked him to. But the thing is, my Lavellan probably wouldn't do that to him. She'd probably ask Cassandra to do it, or maybe Leliana if she was around. Or Cole. And only if she was very very sure there was no hope, and she didn't yet know about Solas' plans for the Veil.
If he'd just decided on his own that she needed to be 'spared the pain' and 'go in his arms', I would not have been okay with it in any way, shape or form. Ever. I would probably have gone full hulk rage. And I doubt I'd be playing DA4. Not as a protest - it's just the memory would have been hard to get over. I mean, I still have never replayed Trespasser
You'd ask Cassandra? Cassandra has a HUGE heart, she'd never be able to do it. And Liliana has seen enough death in her lifetime. I couldn't ask either of them for something like that. I think I'd have to jump off a cliff or something.
Imagine in this scenario, Solas has already decided he has to kill you before you can tell anyone about his plan. He's justifying it to himself by focusing on how much pain you are in and that a swift death is really the only way to spare you. Maybe you have the option to call him out on this B.S, but as much as that hurts, it doesn't stop him. And Quizzy's in too much pain by this point to do anything about it.
That's the interesting thing about this scenario, in my mind: death is coming one way or the other, and your most important choice is what to SAY about it. With the implication that whatever you choose as your last words will have unknown effects in the sequel. What do you say in that situation?....
You'd ask Cassandra? Cassandra has a HUGE heart, she'd never be able to do it. And Liliana has seen enough death in her lifetime. I couldn't ask either of them for something like that. I think I'd have to jump off a cliff or something.
Imagine in this scenario, Solas has already decided he has to kill you before you can tell anyone about his plan. He's justifying it to himself by focusing on how much pain you are in and that a swift death is really the only way to spare you. Maybe you have the option to call him out on this B.S, but as much as that hurts, it doesn't stop him. And Quizzy's in too much pain by this point to do anything about it.
That's the interesting thing about this scenario, in my mind: death is coming one way or the other, and your most important choice is what to SAY about it. With the implication that whatever you choose as your last words will have unknown effects in the sequel. What do you say in that situation?....
Interesting. In that case, my last words would be to tell him *not* to help me. I'd die in front of him the painful way, and let him remember that image as he's going around carrying out his plans. If he chose to kill me anyway, I'd make sure he knew it was against my will. Why? Because at that point it would be the only thing I could do that would possibly make him re-think his plans, or make it harder for him to carry them out. Probably over-optimistic of me, but as you say, not a lot of choices at that point. But I would not be inclined to make things easier on him, in that situation. Just like I don't like to kill Anders after he blows up the Chantry. You don't get to do that and then check out.
As for asking Cass or Leliana to help end the Inquisitor's pain - it's not because I think either of them are heartless, not by any stretch of the imagination. My Lavellan trusts and likes them both enough to know that they'd make it painless, and be very kind about it, and the last thing she'd see was the face of a beloved friend. And most importantly, in my mind, neither of them would torture themselves endlessly about the necessity of the decision. This has nothing to do with the size of their hearts. I know they both have huge hearts. They've also seen and been through enough in life to know that often the kindest choice is still a painful one, and both are strong enough to do it *as* an act of kindness, without burdening the Quizzy with their pain in the moment. Cassandra can and has done the same for at least one colleague and honestly I think she'd be more upset if it was left to someone who the Quizzy trusted less than absolutely. (If my Quiz had been a mage, I'd headcanon Cass as the one she would want to do the necessary in case she became an abomination.) As a matter of trust, she would probably be okay with most of the other party members doing it, but I think she'd worry about Blackwall, Varric, or Cullen possibly blaming themselves even though it was her request.
Hi first post but I've been lurking around for a while, I came to say that I never see daylight as a hardcore shut-in and I still got freckles all over my skin so WELP
As to what to say if we were to die for sure at that time is an interesting question... but so so hard. Tell the wrong thing and he sinks in despair even further THE PRESSURE IS REAL. I'd be "ok removing the veil is necessary but not this way" but I can't tell him to go find the rest of the squad to try to figure out another way because Lavellan was the only one he really befriended he wouldn't trust the rest of the group enough, so err I'd try some "I'm not giving up even if I have to haunt through the whole fade to gather all the wisdom spirits ever existing for brainstorm sessions SO PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP EITHER, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO MAKE YOURSELF AND EVERYONE EVEN ELVHEN SUFFER EVEN MORE" capslocks for yelling because it's SO DESPERATE idk if it's even possible but anyway he built such strong resolve I wonder if anything could work at all, I'm sad now
*fades back to the shadows*
Hi first post but I've been lurking around for a while, I came to say that I never see daylight as a hardcore shut-in and I still got freckles all over my skin so WELP
As to what to say if we were to die for sure at that time is an interesting question... but so so hard. Tell the wrong thing and he sinks in despair even further THE PRESSURE IS REAL. I'd be "ok removing the veil is necessary but not this way" but I can't tell him to go find the rest of the squad to try to figure out another way because Lavellan was the only one he really befriended he wouldn't trust the rest of the group enough, so err I'd try some "I'm not giving up even if I have to haunt through the whole fade to gather all the wisdom spirits ever existing for brainstorm sessions SO PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP EITHER, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO MAKE YOURSELF AND EVERYONE EVEN ELVHEN SUFFER EVEN MORE" capslocks for yelling because it's SO DESPERATE idk if it's even possible but anyway he built such strong resolve I wonder if anything could work at all, I'm sad now
*fades back to the shadows*
Welcome, Amburu. It's always kind of desperate around here, I think. And yes, Solas is nothing if not frustratingly stubborn.
Also, apparently all our freckle-lore is wrong!
Interesting. In that case, my last words would be to tell him *not* to help me. I'd die in front of him the painful way, and let him remember that image as he's going around carrying out his plans. If he chose to kill me anyway, I'd make sure he knew it was against my will. Why? Because at that point it would be the only thing I could do that would possibly make him re-think his plans, or make it harder for him to carry them out. Probably over-optimistic of me, but as you say, not a lot of choices at that point. But I would not be inclined to make things easier on him, in that situation. Just like I don't like to kill Anders after he blows up the Chantry. You don't get to do that and then check out.
Interesting. I think in that case, I imagine Solas either just turning away and leaving you to die slowly on your own, or just killing you swiftly when you aren't looking a la "Of Mice and Men." It would depend on how much he approved, I think. One who just leaves you to die... high disapproval, I think. I don't think making him watch the mark tear you apart would make him re-think his plan. He's been expecting to see that ever since you touched that orb. In a way, he knows he really killed you a long time ago. It just took a while to kick in.
As for Cassandra and Liliana, I don't think there's enough time for either of them to intervene in this scenario. He's not going to let you leave with the information you have, and you will be dead before you can get back to them anyway. With a black hole collapsing around you, you could put anyone who gets close at risk.
Also, apparently all our freckle-lore is wrong!
Or your freckles are like, "dress for the job you want, not the job you have! Someday we will see the sun!!" Hashtag believeinyourdreams
If I can help you cope with this revelation, I still get *more* of them on my face in summer -one still has to go to the groceries-
I think panic is the worst thing to do but come on Lavellan's been looking and waiting for her boyfriend for TWO YEARS and now this
Honestly my first rp-reaction to the destroy-the-world-thing was "oh FINE whatever I understand how it's come to this, cutie cole convinced me so hard that veil-less world is the best and I don't want to be apart from you any longer" but we just can't have the few remainings of modern Thedas find yet another *reason* to hate on the race by just taking a wrong choice for an initially good idea, we have to do it right
I just hope if she were going to die she'd get enough time and energy to say it all OTL
Real exhausting, w.e.l.l.d.o.n.e Weekes
Interesting. I think in that case, I imagine Solas either just turning away and leaving you to die slowly on your own, or just killing you swiftly when you aren't looking a la "Of Mice and Men." It would depend on how much he approved, I think. One who just leaves you to die... high disapproval, I think. I don't think making him watch the mark tear you apart would make him re-think his plan. He's been expecting to see that ever since you touched that orb. In a way, he knows he really killed you a long time ago. It just took a while to kick in.
As for Cassandra and Liliana, I don't think there's enough time for either of them to intervene in this scenario. He's not going to let you leave with the information you have, and you will be dead before you can get back to them anyway. With a black hole collapsing around you, you could put anyone who gets close at risk.
So basically there's nothing you can do or say that will dissuade him and Solas is going to kill you no matter what? And what I think of that? I've pretty much given my answer above - I'd be incredibly pissed. The only way my Quizzy could be okay with it was before she learned what his plans were (and I do assume Cass would be with me pretty much up till that point). After he tells her his plans, she's not going to want him to touch her even to help her. (Was the kiss automatic for a romanced Lav? I don't remember.)
But you know, Solas respects free will enough that I think he'd let you die on your own terms - so no, I really disagree that he'd only let a high-disapproval Quizzy die without intervention. He knows the Quizzy has more than legitimate reasons to be angry at him, and in particular if he loves her, he's not going to take her voice away as a last insult. Not the Solas I know, anyway.
So basically there's nothing you can do or say that will dissuade him and Solas is going to kill you no matter what? And what I think of that? I've pretty much given my answer above - I'd be incredibly pissed.
We're talking about a mandatory death of a Player Character here, so I think people are going to be pissed no matter what. In this scenario, Solas kills you at the end of this scene no matter what, but your actions determine how. Do you ask him to do it? Does he announce what he's going to do or do you work it out for yourself? Does he twist the blade in your gut or does he move in such a way as you don't even feel the Murder Knife until it's already over?
And most importantly: what do you pick for your last words? Do you curse him with your dying breath? Call him a monster out of time, just like Corytheus? Beg him to forgive the world for not being the way he remembers? Tell him you love him? That you believe he can be redeemed?
Player Characters always see their missions through. But your game is over. Would you still promise him that he will be stopped if you KNEW you wouldn't be there to see it through?
Interesting. I think in that case, I imagine Solas either just turning away and leaving you to die slowly on your own, or just killing you swiftly when you aren't looking a la "Of Mice and Men." It would depend on how much he approved, I think. One who just leaves you to die... high disapproval, I think. I don't think making him watch the mark tear you apart would make him re-think his plan. He's been expecting to see that ever since you touched that orb. In a way, he knows he really killed you a long time ago. It just took a while to kick in.
As for Cassandra and Liliana, I don't think there's enough time for either of them to intervene in this scenario. He's not going to let you leave with the information you have, and you will be dead before you can get back to them anyway. With a black hole collapsing around you, you could put anyone who gets close at risk.
Eeeeehhh... I feel like, if the Inquisitor were dying a painful death and declined Solas' offer of a mercy killing, that's probably something he'd respect. It's not like he loses anything by respecting that decision. If he were really that concerned about information getting out, he could just watch over them as it happens.
Now - would having to watch make him rethink his plans? Probably not. But it's hard to say what would make him rethink, since we really don't know much at all about what he's after or how he intends to gain it.
We're talking about a mandatory death of a Player Character here, so I think people are going to be pissed no matter what.
Oh I don't know, some people get kinda romantic about their characters dying, haha.
In this scenario, Solas kills you at the end of this scene no matter what, but your actions determine how. Do you ask him to do it? Does he announce what he's going to do or do you work it out for yourself? Does he twist the blade in your gut or does he move in such a way as you don't even feel the Murder Knife until it's already over?
And most importantly: what do you pick for your last words? Do you curse him with your dying breath? Call him a monster out of time, just like Corytheus? Beg him to forgive the world for not being the way he remembers? Tell him you love him? That you believe he can be redeemed?
Player Characters always see their missions through. But your game is over. Would you still promise him that he will be stopped if you KNEW you wouldn't be there to see it?
OK. See I just can't accept that he would kill you if you didn't ask him to and he didn't outright hate you. I honestly can't come up with a scenario in which he would do that unless the suffering was extreme and he really couldn't take seeing it anymore. So let's assume that's what happens.
My quizzy is a romanced Lavellan, how would this play out for her?
He offers to help end it quickly. My Inquisitor would say no. She'd try to keep him talking up till the end. And she'd probably do her best to maintain eye contact.
So, the mark's getting bigger, pain is escalating, she's still talking to him. What would she say? She'd remind him that all the sentient beings of the living world aren't worth less than his need to assuage his guilt. And that as long as she's known him, he's been a person who respects people, who are beings of spirit as well as flesh. Even if he thought differently once, he can't kid himself now. And all his talk about granting merciful deaths means nothing if he is still willing to overlook the fact that he is destroying *people*. His ideals mean nothing if he's willing to throw away that many living souls for them.
When she sees that she may only have a few moments left, she'd tell him only two things: that she loves him. And that she hopes he finds another way. Really the two most honest thing she can say at that point.
Maybe, with her last breath, she'd try to kill him. She'd fail, of course, but she'd try. If that adds to his trove of memories with which to torment himself, fine.
What it comes down to is that as much as she doesn't want to cause Solas pain for his own sake, she's going to do everything she can for the world right up until the moment she dies.
(Man, I'm super impressed with my Quizzy right now )
I am a very heavy sleeper so this is entirely possible. Whoever is doing that has to be careful though, I burn after five minutes. Solas, teach me that spell to prevent sun burns.Um ... somebody's been sneaking you out into the sunshine while you're asleep?
Most people are severely Vitamin D deficient, just saying.
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