153434 réponses à ce sujet

[Uirebhiril]

lmao, whenever people start talking about elf babies in this thread I'm always like

 

 

While the whole "he wants me for my womb" thing is not something that can be discounted as a possibility, because who really knows, it's a bit annoying that it is the first conclusion a lot of people jumped to for Solas while no one batted an eye at Cullen's gates. In fact, they were predicted and no one was really surprised. Why does no one assume that Cullen wants a human or elf woman to be his personal baby factory? I mean, it's kind of the same thing if we're wanting to make claims about why straight guys might want a particular race for their lover.

[HurricaneGinger]

While the whole "he wants me for my womb" thing is not something that can be discounted as a possibility, because who really knows, it's a bit annoying that it is the first conclusion a lot of people jumped to for Solas while no one batted an eye at Cullen's gates. In fact, they were predicted and no one was really surprised. Why does no one assume that Cullen wants a human or elf woman to be his personal baby factory? I mean, it's kind of the same thing if we're wanting to make claims about why straight guys might want a particular race for their lover.

 

I still think its either a) Solas as dreamed of us, or we are a blood sacrifice to keep his head nice and smooth.

[animedreamer]

While the whole "he wants me for my womb" thing is not something that can be discounted as a possibility, because who really knows, it's a bit annoying that it is the first conclusion a lot of people jumped to for Solas while no one batted an eye at Cullen's gates. In fact, they were predicted and no one was really surprised. Why does no one assume that Cullen wants a human or elf woman to be his personal baby factory? I mean, it's kind of the same thing if we're wanting to make claims about why straight guys might want a particular race for their lover.

 

That's a good point, I never even considered the possibility of Cullen using my quisitor for her womb. Also all those years as a Templar with all those young Initiates and female mages he couldn't touch, woo wee frustrating.

[QueenofFereldan]

While the whole "he wants me for my womb" thing is not something that can be discounted as a possibility, because who really knows, it's a bit annoying that it is the first conclusion a lot of people jumped to for Solas while no one batted an eye at Cullen's gates. In fact, they were predicted and no one was really surprised. Why does no one assume that Cullen wants a human or elf woman to be his personal baby factory? I mean, it's kind of the same thing if we're wanting to make claims about why straight guys might want a particular race for their lover.

While I am one I want kids in the future, to say Cullen and Solas only are gated for baby making reasons seems...low. Can it be merely a preference or something happens in story without coming to that conclusion? And the sad thing is, some are saying that because they can't have Solas with their preferred Inquisitor.

[SamanthaJ]

While the whole "he wants me for my womb" thing is not something that can be discounted as a possibility, because who really knows, it's a bit annoying that it is the first conclusion a lot of people jumped to for Solas while no one batted an eye at Cullen's gates. In fact, they were predicted and no one was really surprised. Why does no one assume that Cullen wants a human or elf woman to be his personal baby factory? I mean, it's kind of the same thing if we're wanting to make claims about why straight guys might want a particular race for their lover.

I think it's likelier that Solas's gates mean he is a straight guy with a romantic story line involving elven things that non-elven people would not get. It's not like I'd mind babies, but it is kind of annoying when people say they won't bother with him because they assume babies are the reason for his gating rather than not being interested in him or interested in playing a female elf. To each their own I guess.

[Roxy]

Mark Darrah did say him being just a female elf romance makes "Super story sense" and I'm sure it's not because Solas wants you to have his babiez. I am getting pretty sick tired of that going around. I don't think that is the reason why they made him female elf romance. He's a straight guy who wants to have a relationship with an elven lady...nothing wrong with that. 

 

I wouldn't mind if at the end My Elven Inquisitor and Solas went off somewhere in the Thedas world and started a family....but this lame idea that he just wants my Inquisitor to be he his baby making machine is just crazy. 

[Uirebhiril]

I still think its either a) Solas as dreamed of us, or we are a blood sacrifice to keep his head nice and smooth.

 

While I am one I want kids in the future, to say Cullen and Solas only are gated for baby making reasons seems...low. Can it be merely a preference or something happens in story without coming to that conclusion?

 

 

Dreams of the Inquisitor... story reasons... maybe he's like the Sleeping Man in Hordes of the Underdark. We are his one true love and just need to learn his true name.

 

But I can go with the idea of a blood sacrifice for the bald head. It would be an awful hassle keeping it that smooth and slick in the wilderness otherwise.

[scintilla]

While the whole "he wants me for my womb" thing is not something that can be discounted as a possibility, because who really knows, it's a bit annoying that it is the first conclusion a lot of people jumped to for Solas while no one batted an eye at Cullen's gates. In fact, they were predicted and no one was really surprised. Why does no one assume that Cullen wants a human or elf woman to be his personal baby factory? I mean, it's kind of the same thing if we're wanting to make claims about why straight guys might want a particular race for their lover.

 

Cullen is an old character with known prejudices - he calls dwarves heathens in DAO and qunari heathens in DA2.  People assume Cullen is racist because Cullen has previously said racist things.  Racism may not be the reason he's gated but no one would surprised if it was.

 

Solas is an unknown with a whole lot of gating but his interview seems to point away from racism as the reason.  People have taken that and the fact that elves can only produce elven children with other elves and run with it.

[QueenofFereldan]

Dreams of the Inquisitor... story reasons... maybe he's like the Sleeping Man in Hordes of the Underdark. We are his one true love and just need to learn his true name.

But I can go with the idea of a blood sacrifice for the bald head. It would be an awful hassle keeping it that smooth and slick in the wilderness otherwise.

That would be interesting.

[Felya87]

...just one thing...Varric is only attracted to female Dwarfs. I never see people say (even before he was confirmed not being a LI) that he liked dwarfettes only to have hairy little dwarf babies... just sayng...

 

why Solas being attracted to female elves only would be any different?

[Tevinter Rose]

...just one thing...Varric is only attracted to female Dwarfs. I never see people say (even before he was confirmed not being a LI) that he liked dwarfettes only to have hairy little dwarf babies... just sayng...

 

why Solas being attracted to female elves only would be any different?

 

I think it kind of sprung out of some people's bitterness about him being female elf only tbh.

[Uirebhiril]

...just one thing...Varric is only attracted to female Dwarfs. I never see people say (even before he was confirmed not being a LI) that he liked dwarfettes only to have hairy little dwarf babies... just sayng...

 

 

Makes me wonder if he had been a female dwarf-only love interest if he'd have had the dwarf babymaker label attached to him.

[RynJ]

The thing to keep in mind about that is that the whole baby thing didn't just come out of nowhere. It's a plot point that has come up in Dragon Age before with Morrigan.  I think that's why people's minds automatically go there. Heck, my mind automatically went there when we first learned that he was gated to female elves for "super story reasons", as that term suggests that there's more of a reason for his gating than him just liking female elves. It's not like it isn't an understandable assumption.

 

However, people who are using that to say that he's a "problematic" character or to bash him and his romance have taken pure and a little unlikely speculation WAY too far.

[QueenofFereldan]

It's just annoying...it's like saying a guy is only straight for baby making reasons.

[lyrabelacqua]

Cullen is an old character with known prejudices - he calls dwarves heathens in DAO and qunari heathens in DA2.  People assume Cullen is racist because Cullen has previously said racist things.  Racism may not be the reason he's gated but no one would surprised if it was.

 

Solas is an unknown with a whole lot of gating but his interview seems to point away from racism as the reason.  People have taken that and the fact that elves can only produce elven children with other elves and run with it.

This is kinda why I just can't feel the race-gates...I mean, if Cullen turns out to be human and elf only because of his prejudices.  I love odd-couple pairings and characters falling in love out of their comfort zone, so if Cullen (and Solas) is gated because of racism and the gate (out of necessity) means there's no possibility of changing his mind...that sucks

 

Then again, if they're both gated because of 'super story reasons' that aren't racism or teh babiez, my whining is moot

 

Still, if babies happen to crop up in Solas's romance, you can guarantee my elfquiz will be dumping his ass to #ridethebull faster than you can say 'dat bald pate' (I don't hate kids btw, I just don't want them shoe-horned into my RP, lol).

[Felya87]

Makes me wonder if he had been a female dwarf-only love interest if he'd have had the dwarf babymaker label attached to him.

 

well, if the Inquisitor is in any way like the Warden, so only males have the "fertility uppgrade made in Morrigan", otherwise totally barren (really, I still don't understand why the ritual who make pregancy so easy on Morrigan couldn't have been made for female Warden too, since is cleary not a "natural" pregnancy. ) than Varric may still have this label on him, expecially of the reason to not being a romance is "Bianca's return" (the real one, not the crossbow)

[scintilla]

I think the "super story sense" is probably playing into the speculation too.  No one has said that Cullen's gating makes "super story sense."  The impression is that there is some reason beyond just being attracted only to female elves for the gating.

[Tamyn]

 

Wow Dorians VA has an Amazing voice. Once in awhile I think I will have Solas and him both in my party to listen to those smexy voices. ♥

 

Too bad you can't romance them both at once... sigh.

[Roxy]

Too bad you can't romance them both at once... sigh.

 

 

I admit I laughed when I read that part. 

[RynJ]

I think the "super story sense" is probably playing into the speculation too.  No one has said that Cullen's gating makes "super story sense."  The impression is that there is some reason beyond just being attracted only to female elves for the gating.

 

I also think Cullen's gating is just assumed to be character continuity from DAO, since he only flirted with the female Warden. Whereas Solas is a whole new ball game. 

 

I think time constraints also played a large part in the gating. I could be wrong about that, though.

[Tamyn]

I think time constraints also played a large part in the gating. I could be wrong about that, though.

 

I do too. We don't want Epler dying from exhaustion chained to his desk, after all.

 

I still think "super story sense" means something having to do with elven technology, since someone mentioned eluvians. Either just a common interest or magicky stuff related to elves. A non-elf wouldn't understand it.

[veeia]

I don't think anyone is saying the baby idea with Solas is just because he's straight or whatever. It's just because his gating is story related, and since no one knows all of the story stuff yet, there are only a few established lore things we know that are elf-restricted: being a member of a Dalish clan, the eluvians  making elf babies, being called knife-ears, having problems finding petite enough trousers in high fashion stores, etc..... And only elf babies would be restricted to women. I mean, not that Solas should be bi if it's not about babies (well I wish he was :/) but...it makes sense for people to go there, I think...when it doesn't make as much sense with Cullen, not at all.

 

It is super annoying when people assume they KNOW that's why he is and assert it like it's a fact. It's not a fact. It's a theory--and one that I think has some merit (although I reaaaalllly don't like the idea of it and am not convinced of it, it's not out of the realm of possibility)..but....uh, we won't know for a few months. 

 

I am bummed about it (Solas was my #1 LI choice but I'm playing dwarf so we'll have to be bff), but I don't think at this point it's productive to assume anything other than "when the game comes out we will figure it out" 

[scintilla]

 

I also think Cullen's gating is just assumed to be character continuity from DAO, since he only flirted with the female Warden. Whereas Solas is a whole new ball game. 

 

I think time constraints also played a large part in the gating. I could be wrong about that, though.

 

Yeah.  Cullen was only attracted to females in DAO, whether they were human or elven.  Solas is a total unknown so there's a lot more wild guessing about why he might be gated.

 

I'm pretty sure one of the devs said that finding out what the cinematics team could do and then making the story reasons work with what the cinematics team could give them was part of the process for adding the last two LIs.  The cinematics team must have been dying when they added three more races.

 

This is kinda why I just can't feel the race-gates...I mean, if Cullen turns out to be human and elf only because of his prejudices.  I love odd-couple pairings and characters falling in love out of their comfort zone, so if Cullen (and Solas) is gated because of racism and the gate (out of necessity) means there's no possibility of changing his mind...that sucks 

 

Then again, if they're both gated because of 'super story reasons' that aren't racism or teh babiez, my whining is moot 

 

Still, if babies happen to crop up in Solas's romance, you can guarantee my elfquiz will be dumping his ass to #ridethebull faster than you can say 'dat bald pate'   (I don't hate kids btw, I just don't want them shoe-horned into my RP, lol).

 

Yeah, I want to have faith in BioWare but part of the reason I was hoping so hard for Solas to be ungated is that I'm a little suspicious of the gates.  Maybe they make perfect sense in story and I'll feel bad for not being trusting.  But then, maybe they're gated for reasons that come across as racist or shallow and that would be disappointing.

 

That's the same reason I don't want to see babies crop up as a reason in a romance plot.  No hate for kids but I'm not into it being in my escapist fantasy.  Especially since there are plenty of people in the real world who would love to reduce me to nothing but a vessel for carrying children.

[veeia]

I love kids and I have a kid but I don't want baby as plot in Dragon Age for the female PC. That just has all kinds of problems with it, tbh. It also restricts Solas's romance even further, really, because what it would actually be is a romance gated to straight, cis female elves who want to have children. 

[Uirebhiril]

 

Yeah, I want to have faith in BioWare but part of the reason I was hoping so hard for Solas to be ungated is that I'm a little suspicious of the gates.  Maybe they make perfect sense in story and I'll feel bad for not being trusting.  But then, maybe they're gated for reasons that come across as racist or shallow and that would be disappointing.

 

 

I haven't really followed the Cullen thread. Were people upset/angry/disappointed about Cullen's racial gates and end up not wanting to romance him for being racist?