Alistair: Have you ever lost anyone close to you?
Coulsand: Well, my entire family (including my 10 year old nephew) and all our staff (most of whom I've know since I was born) were recently murdered by my dad's best friend. And Duncan took me away from my parents as they were dying.
Alistair: Oh. SO ABOUT DUNCAN (who I knew for six months...)
Warden: So tell me about being a Grey Warden.
Alistair: *eyes well up* *sad music begins to play*
Warden: Oh Maker, NOT AGAIN!
Yeah, I can see Fenris sucking at sympathy being in line with his character, but I just felt like his entire romance was such a weird, disjointed heap of WTF that never really had much of an emotional payoff. It felt unfinished to me. I mean, Gideon Emery's voice can get me to forgive a multitude of sins, and the, er, composition of Fenris's pixels was certainly right up my alley, but the whole deal left me more frustrated than anything. And I couldn't get through Anders's romance. He just isn't my cup of tea. I pretty much just wanted to run off with Varric after my first playthrough, which is probably a big reason why I never made it all the way through another one.
And I think I've played Origins too many times, because as much as I love Alistair (and I really do), there are moments when I just want to slap the **** out of him. Moments when Grey Wardening feels a lot like babysitting. For no pay. Ooh, and this:
THIS WAS NOT OKAY. I always felt like Eamon was just using Alistair anyway. Didn't trust him. *grumble*
There are a few companions this time who seem like they might be good listeners. Solas, for sure. And actually, I've gotten sort of attached to the idea of Cass being my Lavellan's BFF. She seems like she'd be a good friend, under the tough exterior.
It's the fact that from Jowan's perspective he didn't do anything wrong. Sure, being sent to assassinate a guy is a pretty bad thing to do, but Loghian was the regent, the Grey Wardens were offically the bad guys and Jowan was told that Eamon was a threat! I just want there to be a big 'Lol nope. Rite of conscption' dialouge.
And as for Fenris (since people seem to be talking about him) I really like his comforting Hawke scene.
Warden: So tell me about being a Grey Warden.
Alistair: *eyes well up* *sad music begins to play*
Warden: Oh Maker, NOT AGAIN!
Brosca: I grew up in Dustown where people like me a treated like nothing just for how we were born...
Alistair: SO MY LIFE GROWING UP WAS REALLY HARD.
Brosca: *facepalm*
Alistair: Have you ever lost anyone close to you?
Coulsand: Well, my entire family (including my 10 year old nephew) and all our staff (most of whom I've know since I was born) were recently murdered by my dad's best friend. And Duncan took me away from my parents as they were dying.
Alistair: Oh. SO ABOUT DUNCAN (who I knew for six months...)
Wow, it must be 'gripe about Alistair day' because we had this exact same conversation in the Josie thread earlier. 
It's the fact that from Jowan's perspective he didn't do anything wrong. Sure, being sent to assassinate a guy is a pretty bad thing to do, but Loghian was the regent, the Grey Wardens were offically the bad guys and Jowan was told that Eamon was a threat! I just want there to be a big 'Lol nope. Rite of conscption' dialouge.
I wanted to ask Eamon wtf he even asked if he wasn't going to listen to me about Jowan anyway, especially after what I'd just done to save his village and his family. And yeah, right of conscription would have been the perfect answer (especially if you didn't plan to put Alistair on the throne anyway so didn't really need Eamon's enthusiastic support.)
Wow, it must be 'gripe about Alistair day' because we had this exact same conversation in the Josie thread earlier.
I do love Alistair (he's even my canon warden's romance) but I find some of his dialouge so frustrating. I have to spend ages tiptoing around Duncan and listen to all his problems and help him deal with everything and he never shows any of the Wardens any of the same sympathy. To be fair, none of the companions do, but it's really noticable with Alistair since he's plot critical and in the game from almost the start.
It's the fact that from Jowan's perspective he didn't do anything wrong. Sure, being sent to assassinate a guy is a pretty bad thing to do, but Loghian was the regent, the Grey Wardens were offically the bad guys and Jowan was told that Eamon was a threat! I just want there to be a big 'Lol nope. Rite of conscption' dialouge.
Totally agree. I really really wanted the option of a different outcome for Jowan. Invoking the Rite of Conscription would've been a perfect solution. He had his issues, but I never stopped liking him.
I do love Alistair (he's even my canon warden's romance) but I find some of his dialouge so frustrating. I have to spend ages tiptoing around Duncan and listen to all his problems and help him deal with everything and he never shows any of the Wardens any of the same sympathy. To be fair, none of the companions do, but it's really noticable with Alistair since he's plot critical and in the game from almost the start.
Wynne does express some concern, but she's the only one.
I look forward to the companion interactions this time around. I'm hoping to be BFFs with Cassandra. I'm not sure about Solas yet. Maybe a mentor type relationship since he'll help us with our Fade powers.
Wynne does express some concern, but she's the only one.
I look forward to the companion interactions this time around. I'm hoping to be BFFs with Cassandra. I'm not sure about Solas yet. Maybe a mentor type relationship since he'll help us with our Fade powers.
Because I mostly play a mage I find a lot of Wynne's dialouge to be frustrating too because Wynne disaproves -100 if you're even slightly negative about the Circle. Sure, Wynne. It's fine for you. You can leave whenever you like. I had to break every rule the Circle had and get conscripted into the Wardens to have the same pleasure!
And oooh, yes. Mentor!Solas. 
EDIT: hmm... sorry. This seems to be 'Illyria gripes about every DAO companion day'.
Oh gosh, I had the exact opposite reaction. Rivalmancing Fenris with a snarky male mage Hawke was the most emotionally impactful (romantic) relationship in the series for me!Yeah, I can see Fenris sucking at sympathy being in line with his character, but I just felt like his entire romance was such a weird, disjointed heap of WTF that never really had much of an emotional payoff. It felt unfinished to me. I mean, Gideon Emery's voice can get me to forgive a multitude of sins, and the, er, composition of Fenris's pixels was certainly right up my alley, but the whole deal left me more frustrated than anything. And I couldn't get through Anders's romance. He just isn't my cup of tea. I pretty much just wanted to run off with Varric after my first playthrough, which is probably a big reason why I never made it all the way through another one.
This cracked me up.Alistair: Have you ever lost anyone close to you?
Coulsand: Well, my entire family (including my 10 year old nephew) and all our staff (most of whom I've know since I was born) were recently murdered by my dad's best friend. And Duncan took me away from my parents as they were dying.
Alistair: Oh. SO ABOUT DUNCAN (who I knew for six months...)
I love you, Alistair, but pls stahp.
DAO companions are like old friends. they aren't perfect, and sometimes you can't do anything but grumble about all their faults. But you still love them to bits. (at least, that's how I see it)
Eamon had always given me a bad feeling. I don't trust nor like him. Way too eager to put Alistair on the throne and "helping him". And the "Jowan situation" didn't help. i would have used in an instant the Coscription if I could. Even to just annoy Eamon. (is the reason I sometimes haven't put Alistair on the throne)
I think the moments Wynnie is concerned helped a lot her character. Without, she would be quite hard to digest for a Mage origin. I had quite some problems with my elf mage. She hated both Chantry and Circle. Thanks the stone/maker/creators for the gift spam sistem!
Alistair is still my canon romance, but really...the relationship felt so much one sided from the Warden...That's why I always make only one slight flirt when I have hight friendship with him. So when I enter in camp he seems the one to make the move 
(ah, DAO, I should write a guide about "how to romance someone with less creepyness as possibile")
Still hate the landsmeet, though. 
Still feel like a kick in the gut for non human noble Warden.
The Alistair griping makes me giggle. And I've had a long day that's left me in need of some laughter, so thanks, Illyria!
I've never tried to rivalmance Fenris. I'm kind of a big mush that way. I have heard a bunch of people say it was better than the friendmance, though...maybe I'll be able to make myself try it someday.
And Zevran is sweet. I really love his romance! He ended up being one of my favorite characters. I just wish he came with lock pick abilities, because he's SO hard to take around at first without them. Worth it for the banter, though.
DAO companions are like old friends. they aren't perfect, and sometimes you can't do anything but grumble about all their faults. But you still love them to bits. (at least, that's how I see it)
^Exactly! 
I don't know if it was meant to trigger in that moment, but awkward animation aside, I thought it was sweet even if I didn't romance her.
Since we're reminiscing about old companions: has anyone watched the Wanderers of Thedas series? It's a series of short movies that remixes some of the banters and uses custom animations.
Here's my favorite:
THAT is by far the best thing I've seen all day!
Poor Alistair!
*goes to watch it again*
THAT is by far the best thing I've seen all day!
Poor Alistair!
*goes to watch it again*
Check out the others! https://www.youtube....ofthedas/videos
I always loved romancing Alistair...but yea, Zevran was fun to romance! Especially with my human mage, Felicity Amell, who was a bit...clueless in the romance department. XD I headcanoned that she blushed profusely when he began to flirt with her and really liked it. With Alistair...he was like a protective big/little brother to her.
As for Fenris...I admit, I like Fenris with friendship, but rivaling him especially as a mage? GOLD. Plus, I LOVED his rivalmance scenes better. It's like he was still angry and he finally had to admit to himself that he needed to get on with his life (from the Questioning Beliefs Act 3). And he always admitted that he respect Hawke in the rivalry, which is something I liked with him. Aveline was a close second with the rivalry scenes.
Check out the others! https://www.youtube....ofthedas/videos
I'm dying here. How have I never seen these before?
Since we're reminiscing about old companions: has anyone watched the Wanderers of Thedas series? It's a series of short movies that remixes some of the banters and uses custom animations.
Here's my favorite:
I'm dying here.
How about these? https://www.youtube....akara204/videos
These are animated banters by Makara Tes. She uses mods, but it's fun to see the conversations take place.
Haha that was hilarious! I love Oghren.....I know some people hate him and he can be a pain sometimes but I like him and his sense of humor. XD
Y'know, I actually didn't mind Oghren. XD He was pretty funny and his banter with Zevran are topnotch. Especially when you pick those two to save the Warden (and possibly Alistair if he got caught).
Totally agree. I really really wanted the option of a different outcome for Jowan. Invoking the Rite of Conscription would've been a perfect solution. He had his issues, but I never stopped liking him.
I never started liking him.
He's a manipulative liar with delusions of grandeur.
Like Celene but with blood magic.
Y'know, I actually didn't mind Oghren. XD He was pretty funny and his banter with Zevran are topnotch. Especially when you pick those two to save the Warden (and possibly Alistair if he got caught).
They were actually working for making Jowan being recruitable with the Right during development. It was cut.It's the fact that from Jowan's perspective he didn't do anything wrong. Sure, being sent to assassinate a guy is a pretty bad thing to do, but Loghian was the regent, the Grey Wardens were offically the bad guys and Jowan was told that Eamon was a threat! I just want there to be a big 'Lol nope. Rite of conscption' dialouge.
And as for Fenris (since people seem to be talking about him) I really like his comforting Hawke scene.
They were actually working for making Jowan being recruitable with the Right during development. It was cut.
Shame too...with my Warden mage I played, it would've made so much sense for her to conscript him...especially after she initially was going to execute him (knowing he was going to die, plus she wanted to learn why he did what he did) and ultimately choosing not to do it. And if there was a choice to release him then and cause him to run, I would've taken it. But since it was just at the point you reunited with him...meh...
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