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[kalasaurus]

So....just finished the game. I actually didn't do a Solas romance. And I think I'm kind of glad after all that...just...wow. 

 

Yeah, honestly I'm not quite sure how to feel about his romance.  It definitely made me sad, though, so kudos to his writer for hitting me right in the feels.  

[Cezelle]

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that there's a good chance the protagonist in the next Dragon Age game is going to be our inquisitors again. Solas is officially my favourite character in any DA ever now, and my inquisitor my favourite protagonist. I have a feeling in my bones that we won't get an entire new protagonist not only because Solas' romance ended so abruptly, but the whole game did, you can't just end it with Solas/Fen'Harel killling Flemeth/Mythal and then go on your merry way again saying "Ok, that was it guys, you're not getting any more, see you in the next game!" It's not just a few loose ends, it's a bloody cliffhanger! Just.. please say it isn't over yet Bioware... the lover or lore and everything Solas within me says this can't be everything there is to it!   We need an expansion, entirely about Solas and Lavellan, screw everything else! Yes, that would be perfect.. *cackles madly* 

[DragonRacer]

 
YES, THOSE ROBES. I've had him wearing those since I found them--they look really good on him (and terrible on my Inquisitor, haha). Also, those statues are wolves--there's a Codex entry attached to one where some random guy says he "slept like a babe-in-arms" because he felt like it was watching over him. c:
 

 

I thought so. Awwww... 

 

I tried to get Solas to go up there with me for a "couple selfie" by that wolf statue BECAUSE REASONS, but he didn't seem in the mood for mountain-climbing like my rogue adores doing.   I can just picture him rolling his eyes/shaking his head as she tries to get everyone to follow her up to strange places like that. She's gonna break her neck one of these days.

 

Also, OH MY GOD. I'd forgotten about this song until it came up on my iPod shuffle list this morning. It is THE ultimate and most perfect Solavellan song. So much so that I'm actually going to Rot13 tweet it to Patrick and be like, "TELL ME THIS WAS ON YOUR SOLAS PLAYLIST BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU AMAZING BASTARD!!!"

 

 

I'm just going to be over here now... rocking back and forth... with my knees drawn up to my chest... have a dreadfully ugly cry... 

[Mims]

I'm thinking an expansion, possibly. We know they wanted to do one with DA2, but a lack of interest tanked it. Given the way the plot is going with Solas, and the comments posted on the last page, perhaps Arlathan. 

 

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to another game. 

[MidgetNemo]

Oh where do you find dalish armor for your mage? Also the Solas romance is so well written I don´t even mind the way it ends, but I´m hoping for an expansion or a DLC that will deal these things

[Prince of Keys]

Oh where do you find dalish armor for your mage? Also the Solas romance is so well written I don´t even mind the way it ends, but I´m hoping for an expansion or a DLC that will deal these things

 

I've found three Dalish (okay actually elven, whoops) mage robes:

- the Ancient Elven Robes that DragonRacer posted (so I guess they're at the Shrine of Sylaise somewhere)

- Keeper's Robes I picked up from somewhere I can't remember (sorry! probably from an elven place, but that doesn't help much, I know)

- better Keeper's Robes that can be purchased from the Dalish in the Exalted Plains. Costs 14k.

 

The Keeper's Robes and Ancient Elven Robes look the same, each one just has slightly different colouration. 

 

There are no schematics for elven mage robes, unfortunately. Or if there are, I haven't been able to find them. 

[vertigomez]

@Prince of Keys, I love that banter! It's so insightful it makes me ache.

I think I need to make a world state where I do the most magical (if potentially unwise?) things possible. Father an OGB, encourage Merrill to stick with the Eluvian...

Spoiler

convince an ancient elven god to fall in love with me...

I feel bad for the protagonist of DA IV.

[Chrysanthia]

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ME TOO. tbh I was really unnerved when the whole Fen'harel thing was confirmed because I was worried that Solas's Solas-ness was just a mask for the capricious trickster underneath, but it turns out it's really...not. I mean, he definitely keeps a lid on who he is and why he's doing what he's doing, but everything else is just so honest; his love of the Fade, his compassion for the people you meet, his joy in sharing his knowledge, his confidence, his quiet sadness. He really isn't much of a trickster at all. He cares too much. Ironic that Fen'harel turned out to be this unassuming scruffy nerd.
 
Also, his defensive, "it has been a long time" in the conversation after the first kiss just cracks me up. I imagine that it has been a very long time. And him saying that he's less inhibited in the fade is adorable.

Also did you read te codex entry in the temple

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that pretty much says Fen'arel was misinterpreted that was was not a trickster but something about rebellion? I can't remember exactly and can't look it up because I'm at school, but I feel like that could have big implications for his character in the future. Maybe it even has something to do with his dislike Lavellin's markings.

I have a feeling a huge chunk of the history of Thedas has been hidden away. Maybe on purpose.

[MidgetNemo]

I've found three Dalish mage robes:

- the Ancient Elven Robes that DragonRacer posted (so I guess they're at the Shrine of Sylaise somewhere)

- Keeper's Robes I picked up from somewhere I can't remember (sorry! probably from an elven place, but that doesn't help much, I know)

- better Keeper's Robes that can be purchased from the Dalish in the Exalted Plains. Costs 14k.

 

The Keeper's Robes and Ancient Elven Robes look the same, each one just has slightly different colouration. 

 

There are no schematics for elven mage robes, unfortunately. Or if there are, I haven't been able to find them. 

Oh ok,thanks! I´ve been seeing this one that looks like Merrills romance armor,anyone know where you can find it?

[DragonRacer]

I've found three Dalish (okay actually elven, whoops) mage robes:

- the Ancient Elven Robes that DragonRacer posted (so I guess they're at the Shrine of Sylaise somewhere)

- Keeper's Robes I picked up from somewhere I can't remember (sorry! probably from an elven place, but that doesn't help much, I know)

- better Keeper's Robes that can be purchased from the Dalish in the Exalted Plains. Costs 14k.

 

The Keeper's Robes and Ancient Elven Robes look the same, each one just has slightly different colouration. 

 

There are no schematics for elven mage robes, unfortunately. Or if there are, I haven't been able to find them. 

 

I found the Ancient Elven Robes in the Shrine of Sylaise in the Exalted Plains. You can get a quest that goes there when you talk to the folks in the Dalish camp in that area (and/or when you locate that Dalish girl's missing brother). They're hidden behind a ward that you need electricity to bust down, so Solas took care of that for me. Also, much better price than 14k. 

 

I'm at work at the moment, but I can screenshot the map and circle where the location is and post it up later tonight, if that helps?

[MidgetNemo]

I found the Ancient Elven Robes in the Shrine of Sylaise in the Exalted Plains. You can get a quest that goes there when you talk to the folks in the Dalish camp in that area (and/or when you locate that Dalish girl's missing brother). They're hidden behind a ward that you need electricity to bust down, so Solas took care of that for me. Also, much better price than 14k. 

 

I'm at work at the moment, but I can screenshot the map and circle where the location is and post it up later tonight, if that helps?

A picture of the map would be great thanks!

[Uirebhiril]

So now I'm at the point of seeking out a temple in the main storyline. Does this lead to endgame? Should I drag out my exploration a bit, or is there more to the main story past that point? I'm about 78 hours in game and still haven't touched some of the locations. I find that I can only do so much exploration and questing and killing bandits before I want to have some connection to the story and characters, so I've been advancing the story, I just don't want to finish the game with so much left uncovered.

[Jean]

So now I'm at the point of seeking out a temple in the main storyline. Does this lead to endgame? Should I drag out my exploration a bit, or is there more to the main story past that point? I'm about 78 hours in game and still haven't touched some of the locations. I find that I can only do so much exploration and questing and killing bandits before I want to have some connection to the story and characters, so I've been advancing the story, I just don't want to finish the game with so much left uncovered.

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Yeah, it does. Really, what you want to do at this point is up to you. I believe any unfinished follower quests disappear after finishing the main story, but you should be able to do the other smaller quests

 

Actually, I lied. There is one more quest after you finish the temple. So you will still have time to drag it out a bit more.

Modifié par Jean, 24 novembre 2014 - 04:33 .

[vertigomez]

SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT SANDAL'S PROPHECY and and and *hyperventilates*

Spoiler

"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see."

And then Cole's later lines: when everything sang the same, you're real and it means that everything could be real, it changes everything but it can't, etc.

WHAT IF THIS ISN'T ABOUT CORYPHEUS AHHHHH.

[Addai]

First post on the new forums.

 

Roll a Dalish mage and romance Solas, I said. It should be interesting, I said.

 

GAH

 

Seriously, I loved the character arc and the romance to bits. Funny mage hat off to Patrick Weekes and the voice actor. Still processing the lore implications, but I have to say... this arc, and all the elven stuff in the end game, brought back the Dragon Age magic for me. Just had to give my kudos.

 

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I think the only thing that could have made it more perfect would be to have Cole comment on the Inquisitor's pain after the final scenes.

 

Also... did anyone get the war room quests where you help the Lavellan clan from bandits? Did I read that right, that they get wiped out/ scattered? If so, not having anyone comment on it was weird.

 

Some screenshots for fun. If you haven't put him in the Ancient Elven Coat yet, do so immediately. He was wearing it at the final battle and it made him look like an elven prince.

 

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I loved this moment, especially that it was a surprise.

 

 

[Mims]

I think I posted this in the other Solas spoiler thread, but my theory:

 

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My speculation is that Solas/Fen'Heral sealed away the other elven gods, perhaps with the intention of protecting mortals from the coming clash between the two groups of gods. We know from the legends that the two groups were nearing war with one another, which is when Fen'Heral tricked both sides into remaining on their 'side' of the world. It is also quite likely that the elven gods might have fostered some of the corruption in the old elven rule, such as the rigid caste system and slavery. If Fen'Heral is the god of rebellion, it would make sense that he eventually wanted to break the system. 

 

But by trapping the gods on one side and the Forgotten Ones on the other, Fen'Heral has been in the middle. Over time, perhaps he's grown to regret the decision. His fear says that he is afraid of dying alone. His only peers would be the very people that he sealed away. Elven society also collapsed in upon itself without the 'protection' of the other elven gods.

 

To Solas, it might seem very much like he made a mistake. He betrayed 'his people', and he's possibly forever alone. And what he did didn't even help the elves, at least from his perspective. They are now mortal, and their society is effectively in ruins. 

 

Cole: They are not gone so long as you remember them.

Solas: I know.

Cole: But you could let them go.

Solas: I know that as well.

Cole: You didn't do it to be right. You did it to save them.

Inquisitor: Solas, what is Cole talking about?

Solas: A mistake. One of many made by a much younger elf who was certain he knew everything.

Cole: You weren't wrong, though.

Solas: Thank you, Cole.

 

Then there is also this conversation after the break up:

 

Cole: He hurts, an old pain from before when everything sang the same
You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can't
They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them... (gasp) Where did it go?

 

This makes me think that the elven gods are the ones sleeping in the mirror. But to wake them would be a bad thing, and its very possible mortals would be the ones who would most suffer if all of a sudden the elven gods [and forgotten ones] were unleashed. If he has a connection and sympathy to a mortal, then his decision to unleash them becomes extremely complicated. 

 

'It changes everything but it can't', to me, seems to mean that although Solas is guilty about his plans, he still plans to go through with them. Which will likely play into Sandal's prophecy of all magic returning. And everything else that has been sealed away. 

 

 

This is only my random speculation though, not anything I would say 'this is what is happening fullstop'. Something to muse over, though! 

[Sylvanfeather]

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I think the only thing that could have made it more perfect would be to have Cole comment on the Inquisitor's pain after the final scenes.

 

Also... did anyone get the war room quests where you help the Lavellan clan from bandits? Did I read that right, that they get wiped out/ scattered? If so, not having anyone comment on it was weird.

 

I did those quests, but had a different outcome. I believe it depends on which advisor you assign to the task.

[Roxy]

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Advice especially to myself: Don't take anything from the Dalish elf graves or the Keeper will be upset about that. 

[Nerillin]

_{Well, this was awesome. The best romance arc I've ever seen. Brilliant work of writers. Cruel, but brilliant.}

_{I only hope there'll be a DLC where I can punch this bastard in a face with a chair for what he did for my poor Lavellan. >}

 

 

I'll just leave this here.

[Addai]

Yikes, quote fail.

 

I think I sent Leliana to do those. Gack. That's actually pretty cool that it affects so much.

 

About the graves quest:

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The name "Spoils of Desecration" pretty much says it all.

 

[DragonRacer]

 

 

First post on the new forums.

 

Roll a Dalish mage and romance Solas, I said. It should be interesting, I said.

 

GAH

 

Seriously, I loved the character arc and the romance to bits. Funny mage hat off to Patrick Weekes and the voice actor. Still processing the lore implications, but I have to say... this arc, and all the elven stuff in the end game, brought back the Dragon Age magic for me. Just had to give my kudos.

 

Spoiler

I think the only thing that could have made it more perfect would be to have Cole comment on the Inquisitor's pain after the final scenes.

 

Also... did anyone get the war room quests where you help the Lavellan clan from bandits? Did I read that right, that they get wiped out/ scattered? If so, not having anyone comment on it was weird.

 

Some screenshots for fun. If you haven't put him in the Ancient Elven Coat yet, do so immediately. He was wearing it at the final battle and it made him look like an elven prince.

 

Spoiler

 

I loved this moment, especially that it was a surprise.

 

 

 

I've got him in that coat, too!

 

Spoiler

As far as the clan and the bandits, I just got that yesterday. I put Cullen and his army on the task, and the report back is that they took care of the bandits and the surviving bandits scattered, and the clan is not only safe from them now but that the local bann/arl/whatever has declared official protection of them on his/her lands.

 

 

Spoiler

Advice especially to myself: Don't take anything from the Dalish elf graves or the Keeper will be upset about that. 

 

Spoiler

It's very hard not to follow the looting instinct, yes. LOL

 

However, you CAN loot the stuff that's outside. Just don't destroy any of the graves or try to find the key to the big tomb entrance. I looted maybe two outside pots, but left the graves and the tomb alone, and the hahren was happy.

 

But now I have a quest in my book that's embarrassing and likely won't go away unless I do it, so now it's gotta sit there forever and annoy my OCD. Something like "The Prize for Desecration" or something like that. Got it by touching the tomb door, which prompted me to start destroying graves to look for the key. Uh-huh. Nope. Not doing it. A later #AssQuisitor can do that, but not my Lavellan.

[Master Warder Z_]

Oh where do you find dalish armor for your mage? Also the Solas romance is so well written I don´t even mind the way it ends, but I´m hoping for an expansion or a DLC that will deal these things

 

You and me both

 

I want my Inquizzy and Cass to kill the evil ancient elf thingie.

 

o.o Because in my opinion?

 

Spoiler

You don't employ someone like Cory without being a twisted son of a**** yourself.

But in all honesty? I'd just be happy with more romantic content, the game really skimped on that department, like even more then the other two.

It doesn't even kick off until so late that its like the game ends just a minute after you get the romance going.

[vertigomez]

I think I posted this in the other Solas spoiler thread, but my theory:
 

Spoiler

My speculation is that Solas/Fen'Heral sealed away the other elven gods, perhaps with the intention of protecting mortals from the coming clash between the two groups of gods. We know from the legends that the two groups were nearing war with one another, which is when Fen'Heral tricked both sides into remaining on their 'side' of the world. It is also quite likely that the elven gods might have fostered some of the corruption in the old elven rule, such as the rigid caste system and slavery. If Fen'Heral is the god of rebellion, it would make sense that he eventually wanted to break the system. 
 
But by trapping the gods on one side and the Forgotten Ones on the other, Fen'Heral has been in the middle. Over time, perhaps he's grown to regret the decision. His fear says that he is afraid of dying alone. His only peers would be the very people that he sealed away. Elven society also collapsed in upon itself without the 'protection' of the other elven gods.
 
To Solas, it might seem very much like he made a mistake. He betrayed 'his people', and he's possibly forever alone. And what he did didn't even help the elves, at least from his perspective. They are now mortal, and their society is effectively in ruins. 
 
Cole: They are not gone so long as you remember them.
Solas: I know.
Cole: But you could let them go.
Solas: I know that as well.
Cole: You didn't do it to be right. You did it to save them.
Inquisitor: Solas, what is Cole talking about?
Solas: A mistake. One of many made by a much younger elf who was certain he knew everything.
Cole: You weren't wrong, though.
Solas: Thank you, Cole.
 
Then there is also this conversation after the break up:
 
Cole: He hurts, an old pain from before when everything sang the sameYou're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything, but it can'tThey sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them... (gasp) Where did it go?
 
This makes me think that the elven gods are the ones sleeping in the mirror. But to wake them would be a bad thing, and its very possible mortals would be the ones who would most suffer if all of a sudden the elven gods [and forgotten ones] were unleashed. If he has a connection and sympathy to a mortal, then his decision to unleash them becomes extremely complicated. 
 
'It changes everything but it can't', to me, seems to mean that although Solas is guilty about his plans, he still plans to go through with them. Which will likely play into Sandal's prophecy of all magic returning. And everything else that has been sealed away. 
 
 
This is only my random speculation though, not anything I would say 'this is what is happening fullstop'. Something to muse over, though! 

Bless everything about this post. When the next few games confirm all these predictions, I'm sending you a fruit basket.

Poor baby just wants to heeeelp!

[Roxy]

 

 

 

 

I've got him in that coat, too!

 

Spoiler

As far as the clan and the bandits, I just got that yesterday. I put Cullen and his army on the task, and the report back is that they took care of the bandits and the surviving bandits scattered, and the clan is not only safe from them now but that the local bann/arl/whatever has declared official protection of them on his/her lands.

 

 

 

Spoiler

It's very hard not to follow the looting instinct, yes. LOL

 

However, you CAN loot the stuff that's outside. Just don't destroy any of the graves or try to find the key to the big tomb entrance. I looted maybe two outside pots, but left the graves and the tomb alone, and the hahren was happy.

 

But now I have a quest in my book that's embarrassing and likely won't go away unless I do it, so now it's gotta sit there forever and annoy my OCD. Something like "The Prize for Desecration" or something like that. Got it by touching the tomb door, which prompted me to start destroying graves to look for the key. Uh-huh. Nope. Not doing it. A later #AssQuisitor can do that, but not my Lavellan.

 

 

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Yeah I wasn't going to do it at first but then I thought well we did it in DA2...but I got to remember this game is far more different than the last game and anything you do or say will effect the game....oops. 

[Nhadalie]

SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT SANDAL'S PROPHECY and and and *hyperventilates*

Spoiler

"One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see."

And then Cole's later lines: when everything sang the same, you're real and it means that everything could be real, it changes everything but it can't, etc.

WHAT IF THIS ISN'T ABOUT CORYPHEUS AHHHHH.

I've been thinking about that for awhile too!  Originally I thought he meant the OGB, but now. I think he meant Solas.

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Everything seems to be setting up Solas doing something big in the future. I just hope that we get some sort of conclusion with his romance. It'll break my heart all over again if we don't.

 

I think part of Cole's lines have to do with Solas actually taking notice of the people around him. Lavellan shows him that there is more to people. She seems almost to redeem the Dalish in his eyes. Which is.. Fascinating.