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[Atmostis]

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I zoomed the picture in and it looks like he is wearing a green robe? 

 

The stars probably represent the Fade, the moon is on his final tarot card too. 

 

Green also represents the Fade in many photos (and concept art) which I've seen. 

 

 

Elf mages have this tarot card also.

 

[Hedinve]

Solas does talk about levellans spirit a lot and says how rare it is. He also said once how spirit a dint die, they are basically reborn. Maybe he thinks he old love spirit thing was reborn into Levellan or something?

That is what I'm thinking atm. Bioware have decieved me before, I might be way off.

[ellima93]

Solas does talk about levellans spirit a lot and says how rare it is. He also said once how spirit a dint die, they are basically reborn. Maybe he thinks he old love spirit thing was reborn into Levellan or something?

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If I remember correctly, doesn't the OGB say he can sense you have old blood? I'm not 100% sure on that though.

[jellobell]

So if there's this potentially really significant plot point hidden here then why isn't it addressed in the game? 

[Nyaore]

So if there's this potentially really significant plot point hidden here then why isn't it addressed in the game? 

Probably because, it's sadly probably just wall flair that some artist drew as a concept and had it put into the game once the developers came to like it. There's a lot of folklorish art spread throughout the game, particularly in Ferelden, so chances are we're just all grasping at straws. Doesn't make it any less fun though.

[jellobell]

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Meh, I'm not wild about reincarnation romances. I'd rather Solas love the inquisitor for herself, not because she reminds him of someone else.

 

Plus, I got the sense that he does love her for her. He loves her because she opens up new possibilities and is willing to use her newfound power to change things. To be the kind of person the world needs.

[Mims]

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The reincarnation thing is possible, but I just don't see it as being likely. It seems like too huge a plot element to tie to only one race and gender of inquisitor.

I feel like the romance works best when it really 'just' is a mortal he fell in love with. Which is why he is so conflicted with it. If you take 'his people' to mean ancient elves or the elven gods, then she is NOT of his people.

And given his plans, that's not a good thing. He doesn't want to have something to distract him, or make him feel guilty if what he does causes mortals to suffer.

[ellima93]

Just in case you're not heartbroken enough: http://grooveshark.c...ellan/102627866

[Hedinve]

I'm just wondering because one of the major philosophical questions in this game is what makes a god a god. And the Ghilan'nain-story seem a little similar to levellans. Only on two accounts tho, she is the halla and she was a mortal who became a goddess. No referance to the wolf in that story afaik, so it's probably wishfull thinking on my part. Why was his romance gated btw? Makes super story sense how? Apart from the elven pride thing I mean.

[Nyaore]

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The reincarnation thing is possible, but I just don't see it as being likely. It seems like too huge a plot element to tie to only one race and gender of inquisitor.

I feel like the romance works best when it really 'just' is a mortal he fell in love with. Which is why he is so conflicted with it. If you take 'his people' to mean ancient elves or the elven gods, then she is NOT of his people.

And given his plans, that's not a good thing. He doesn't want to have something to distract him, or make him feel guilty if what he does causes mortals to suffer.

Forgive me this, but I think I'm going to continue my gross sobbing now. I'll be in the corner with my tablet and a truck of tissues.

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I will say though that I like both theories, I'm normally with jellobell in heavily disliking reincarnation romances, but the thought does some hold appeal for me in this case. As does the idea that without any strings attached or interwoven destinies he fell in love with the one woman who could ruin everything he was trying to fight for. By both distracting him and showing him that for better or ill the fall of his People did produce some things he could consider worthwhile even if the rest seems to fall in comparison. It's going to be one tragic ride from here on out.

 

Edit: To also throw out song recommendations, while it's simple I like the piano version of Hyori Ittai for them both. I know I'm outing myself as a manga nerd but a lot of songs from the Chimera Ant arc of Hunter x Hunter work for this romance for me.

Also recommend the vocal version, but it's in Japanese. Here's a translation for it though: (Scroll down for English, it fits Solas a lot I feel.)

http://yuzujpoptrans...uzu-hyori-ittai

[mindoirs]

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Meh, I'm not wild about reincarnation romances. I'd rather Solas love the inquisitor for herself, not because she reminds him of someone else.

 

Plus, I got the sense that he does love her for her. He loves her because she opens up new possibilities and is willing to use her newfound power to change things. To be the kind of person the world needs.

Same here...I personally don't like the idea at all. 100% agreed.

[jellobell]

Makes super story sense how? Apart from the elven pride thing I mean.

Well for one thing the vallaslin scene couldn't have happened with a non-elven inquisitor. Also, making it super-specific like this is part of what makes it so meaningful.

 

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The significance of Solas falling for a dalish elf, after feeling betrayed and alienated by the dalish for so long, is very poignant.

 

And am I a sucker for hoping for a morrigan-like ending? As in, having multiple options including one that is "happy-ish". Or a "happy for now but not necessarily happy forever".

[vertigomez]

Just my spoiler-free .02 cents, but I agree that I'd rather Solas love Lavellan for who she is than... any other explanation. It's because she's so "ordinary" that makes their love so extraordinary.

Just in case you're not heartbroken enough: http://grooveshark.c...ellan/102627866

Ohhh, could someone pretty please tell me what songs are on here? It's not loading on my mobile browser.

[Hedinve]

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We don't need full reincarnation for this theory to sort of work, the former love and Levellan might share some traits, some part of a spirit? I would hate it if it was a full on reincarnation story, but if they share something I don't mind. Cole is a spirit and we know some people have been possessed without going the Anders route, so maybe Levellan has a connection to a spirit. Like the spirit who takes the form of Justinia, we are not completely sure if she is who she says she is or if she just identifies with  Justinias character.  I'm not sure if it works at all, but I like speculating.

 

Ah, right, Jellobell, I remember now, thanks. On a general note, this is the most intense Bioware romance to date, for me at least 

[Vylix]

Just my spoiler-free .02 cents, but I agree that I'd rather Solas love Lavellan for who she is than... any other explanation. It's because she's so "ordinary" that makes their love so extraordinary.


Ohhh, could someone pretty please tell me what songs are on here? It's not loading on my mobile browser.

Dream a little dream of me - The mamas & the papa's

Pure imagination - maroon 5

like ice - conjure one

you make my dreams - hall & oates

Dark paradise - Tania Zygar & Matt lange cover of lana del ray.

Endless Dream - Conjure one

Feral love - chelsea wolfe

I will face - Archive

No light, no light - Forence and the machine

A thousand years - christina perri

dont cry out - shiny toy guns

[ellima93]

Just my spoiler-free .02 cents, but I agree that I'd rather Solas love Lavellan for who she is than... any other explanation. It's because she's so "ordinary" that makes their love so extraordinary.


Ohhh, could someone pretty please tell me what songs are on here? It's not loading on my mobile browser.

 

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Dream a little dream of me - The Mamas & Papas,
Pure Imagination - Maroon 5,
Like ice - Conjure One,
Howl - Florence and the Machine,
You make my dreams - Hall & Oates,
Dark Paradise - cover by Tania Zygar,
Endless Dream - Conjure One,
Feral Love, Chelsea Wolfe,
I will Fade - Archive,
No light, no light - Florence and the machine,
A thousand years - Christina Perri,
Don't cry out - Shiny toy guns.

 

[Nerillin]

Some metal for Solas' playlist won't hurt. Because rivers of tears are metal. And this giant hole in my chest is metal. 

 

And oh, the lyrics.

 

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What has come over me?
What madness taken hold of my heart?
To run away, the only answer
Pulling me away, to fall upon
(The night)

The source of my recovery
Sweet shadow taking hold of the light
Another day has been devoured
Calling me away, begging the question, why?

For saving me from all they've taken
Letting my armor fall again
Giving me the strength to face them
Feeling it taking over now
On a path to take it all away

There can be no better way of knowing
In a world beyond controlling
Are you going to deny the savior
In front of your eyes?

Stare into the night
Power beyond containing
Are you going to remain a slave
For the rest of your life?
Give into the night

This self-discovery
Redemption taking hold my mind
This serenade of haunting voices
Calling me away, to feast upon
(The night)

The source of my felicity
Dark maiden taking hold of my hand
Leading me away from hibernation
Strong and unafraid, never a question why

For saving me from all they've taken
Letting my armor fall again
Giving me the strength to face them
Feeling it taking over now
On a path to take it all away

There can be no better way of knowing
In a world beyond controlling
Are you going to deny the savior
In front of your eyes?

Stare into the night
Power beyond containing
Are you going to remain a slave
For the rest of your life?
Give into the night

Give in to the night
In a world beyond controlling
Are you going to deny the savior
In front of your eyes?

Stare into the night
Power beyond containing
Are you going to remain a slave
For the rest of your life?

Give into the night
Night, night, night
Give into the night
Night, night, night

Give into the night
Give into the night
 

 

[ellima93]

Ah beat me to it! 

[vertigomez]

^Gracias!

[Prince of Keys]

So... I have a Trevelyan that wasn't getting along with Solas for a while, and in the interest of scientific curiosity, I decided to poke at him a bit:

 

Asking him if he cares about anything other than the Fade:

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 Inquisitor: Tell me something. Do you care about anything in the world beyond the Fade?

Solas: Ah.

Inquisitor: Ah?

Solas: The Inquisitor turns her hawk-like gaze to me, penetrating deep into my most secret desires. Only... not. I care deeply for many things beyond the Fade. Just not you.

Inquisitor: If the Inquisition is going to succeed, I need everyone's support.

Solas: No. You need everyone's obedience.

Inquisitor: I disagree. I'd like us to reach a better place.

Solas: Then do something worth respecting, Inquisitor.

 

Asking him if he cares about turning his back on his people:

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Inquisitor: Are you ever concerned that you've turned your back on your people?

Solas: I have done no such thing. I simply see no way to help the elves, oppressed as they are now.

Inquisitor: You could teach them what you've learned. You could give them the tools to help themselves.

Solas: How many would listen? Most of the poor and oppressed do not want to work to improve their condition. They want only comfort, an affirmation that they are good for being poor and oppressed. I might reach a few, at most. But... you are right. That is more than I reach doing nothing. I suppose I am just tired of fighting.

Inquisitor: What do you mean, you're tired of fighting? Fighting what?

Solas: Did you think I honed my magical skills to impress spirits? I have joined my share of causes. But when I offered lessons learned in the Fade, I was derided by my enemies... and sometimes by my allies. Liar. Fool. Madman. There are endless ways to say someone isn't worth listening to. Over time, it grinds away at you.

Inquisitor: That's when you should lean on your friends.

Solas: Apologies, Inquisitor. I have learned not to do that.

 

I figured these were probably conversations most people here wouldn't get to see, so I wanted to share them. c:

[Nyaore]

So... I have a Trevelyan that wasn't getting along with Solas for a while, and in the interest of scientific curiosity, I decided to poke at him a bit:

 

Asking him if he cares about anything other than the Fade:

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Asking him if he cares about turning his back on his people:

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I figured these were probably conversations most people here wouldn't get to see, so I wanted to share them. c:

Thank you so much for sharing these!

[jellobell]

Hahahaha, that first one. Damn, Solas. That tongue of his is sharp.

[Kirie]

So... I have a Trevelyan that wasn't getting along with Solas for a while, and in the interest of scientific curiosity, I decided to poke at him a bit:

 

Asking him if he cares about anything other than the Fade:

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Asking him if he cares about turning his back on his people:

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I figured these were probably conversations most people here wouldn't get to see, so I wanted to share them. c:

Kudos to you for doing this! I don't think I could  His words are so razor sharp, ouch.

 

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" I care deeply for many things beyond the Fade. Just not you."

Whoa haha. Scotch bonnet pepper indeed.

[vertigomez]

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When my time comes
Forget the wrong that I've done
Help me leave behind some
Reasons to be missed
Don't resent me
When you're feeling empty
Keep me in your memory
Leave out all the rest

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If I could see beyond the here and now
If you could hear me calling you somehow
If I could know that love is reaching out
To find you with me tonight
Then hope could make these promises come true
Beyond what I could say what love can do
With every moment leading me to you, tonight...

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http://youtu.be/VKBfsz3P7Us

I surrender who I’ve been, for who you are
Nothing makes me stronger than your fragile heart
If I had only felt how it feels to be yours
I would have known what I’ve been living for all along
Though we’re tethered to the story we must tell
When I saw you, I knew we’d tell it well...

For those of you who, like myself, must channel all the feels into sappy music.

[ellima93]

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When my time comes
Forget the wrong that I've done
Help me leave behind some
Reasons to be missed
Don't resent me
When you're feeling empty
Keep me in your memory
Leave out all the rest

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If I could see beyond the here and now
If you could hear me calling you somehow
If I could know that love is reaching out
To find you with me tonight
Then hope could make these promises come true
Beyond what I could say what love can do
With every moment leading me to you, tonight...

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http://youtu.be/VKBfsz3P7Us

I surrender who I’ve been, for who you are
Nothing makes me stronger than your fragile heart
If I had only felt how it feels to be yours
I would have known what I’ve been living for all along
Though we’re tethered to the story we must tell
When I saw you, I knew we’d tell it well...

For those of you who, like myself, must channel all the feels into sappy music.

 

I really want to channel my feels into a fanvid but unfortunately my pc barely runs Inquisition, let alone Inquisition and Fraps