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[Wolfen09]

But he doesn't seem particularly immortal or godlike during the game. I think his power was all bound up in the orb. Plus, I have a feeling that the elves' immortality is tied to Uthenera. So you can either live in the real world, grow old, and die, or you can sacrifice your connection to the world and dream for eons, discovering truths about the Fade and telling them to supplicants who come to you in your dreams.

 

Not saying that you're wrong, but I think his breaking up with Lavellan has little to do with, "I am an immortal and you are moral, thus we cannot be together" and more with whatever he's planning.

 

That would make sense why he was so obsessed with the orb... and with it destroyed, maybe he was dying....  would make sense if it was flemeth who possessed him to save him.... 

[Catriana]

Ohohoh, are you in for a suprise. Just wait :OOO

 

I've already beaten the game, and tbh I don't see how the romance in and of itself is groundbreaking in terms of making 'super story sense'. Any Lavellan could form a deep relationship with Solas and accomplish the same things (excluding the romance part) and have the same impact IMO. So as much as I love the romance, I just don't see it unless their relationship directly impacts the story in a more significant way. 

 

I guess my point is that as I see it, it didn't have to be a female Lavellan for it to make super story sense based on what we were given in-game. At least it didn't feel like that to me.

[scintilla]

I've already beaten the game, and tbh I don't see how the romance in and of itself is groundbreaking in terms of making 'super story sense'. Any Lavellan could form a deep relationship with Solas and accomplish the same things (excluding the romance part) and have the same impact IMO. So as much as I love the romance, I just don't see it unless their relationship directly impacts the story in a more significant way. 

 

I guess my point is that as I see it, it didn't have to be a female Lavellan for it to make super story sense based on what we were given in-game. At least it didn't feel like that to me.

 

I'll give you that it didn't have to be female. I think any race would work for Solas forming a connection to the present but an elf creates a connection to the race he no longer sees as his people, which is more relevant for him. Basically, his personal issues with the present day elves makes a romance with an elf more significant for Solas's story.

 

Edit: Because I feel compelled to explain myself: I don't think it makes a huge difference but it does make a difference.

[InkQuest]

Also, Solas says that he noticed Lavellan from the Fade? I don't remember that. Then again, if he said it during a romance scene I'm sure I was too busy swooning to notice. 

 

It's in the final romance scene. He says "In all of Thedas, I never expected to find someone who could draw my attention from the Fade."

How he says it leaves it a little ambiguous (seems a common trend when it comes to Solas, lol) as to if he means you drew his attention away from the Fade, or if he was in the Fade when you drew it.

[Catriana]

I'll give you that it didn't have to be female. I think any race would work for Solas forming a connection to the present but an elf creates a connection to the race he no longer sees as his people, which is more relevant for him. Basically, his personal issues with the present day elves makes a romance with an elf more significant for Solas's story.

 

*nod* Fair enough. I definitely understood why he was race gated after I played, so I think my issue was that when I read that tweet I saw story as being the story as a whole as opposed to just his personal route. I do think the way it ended leaves it open for it to mean more plot-wise too, though. It'd certainly be interesting to see!

[scintilla]

*nod* Fair enough. I definitely understood why he was race gated after I played, so I think my issue was that when I read that tweet I saw story as being the story as a whole as opposed to just his personal route. I do think the way it ended leaves it open for it to mean more plot-wise too, though. It'd certainly be interesting to see!

 

It's possible they meant in the context of Solas's personal story rather than the main plot although since we're bound to see more of him in the future, that may change.

[RynJ]

It's in the final romance scene. He says "In all of Thedas, I never expected to find someone who could draw my attention from the Fade."

How he says it leaves it a little ambiguous (seems a common trend when it comes to Solas, lol) as to if he means you drew his attention away from the Fade, or if he was in the Fade when you drew it.

 

Ah, that's the line you mean. I read that as you were the only one who could take his mind away from Fade studies and being preoccupied with the Fade. I don't think he literally meant that he saw you from the Fade.

[PurePazaak]

Okay, I'm still over 100 pages behind, catching up after finishing my 100+ hour first playthrough, but I thought I'd share.
 

Solas' romance is, by far, the best romance I have experienced in a game. Period. It was so beautifully tragic; it felt like a sad fairytale. I honestly can't believe that the elf race and Solas' romance were added later. Having romanced him, I feel as though the best way to play the game is to play and elf and romance Solas.

And that scene after the credits? Blew my mind; my mouth was literally hanging open. But I seriously need some closure. I'm really hoping for an expansion/dlc in the near future that follows up with Solas (and his Lavellan), because you can't just leave my heart broken like that Weekes! I don't know if anyone else was thinking this (as I'm still pretty far behind in the thread) but considering only a romanced Solas will have the more positive tarot card, do you think that maybe the only way to steer him off his path, or something, is to romance him? I'd really like that from a story perspective, but I dunno how limiting that would be for players, considering the amount who would have romanced him.

 

I made my quizzy a mage, which I think was the best story-wise. I can't get over how beautifully ironic it is that the a Dalish First, who is responsible for

Spoiler

protecting her clan against the Dread Wolf, ends up falling in love with him.

 

Also, just letting you know I named my elf Hana Lavellan after the heartwrenchingly beautiful Japanese movie 'Wolf Children'. Keep in mind I had no idea about any spoilers going into the game...yeah, if anyone has seen that movie they might know what I was feeling after finishing the game and seeing the parallels! Such a crazy, heartbreaking coincidence.

Anyway, I'll leave you with a pic of my Hana Lavellan



Okay, back to trying to catch up with this thread!

[Izzyl]

Ah, that's the line you mean. I read that as you were the only one who could take his mind away from Fade studies and being preoccupied with the Fade. I don't think he literally meant that he saw you from the Fade.

 

Maybe I can help with that.. or not lol 

 

I play the French version and the word they use to translate "from" was really the one that would mean he was in fact, IN (within) the Fade when he noticed her. Which I found very odd at first    Because I also, was under the impression that he meant she was the only one who could take his mind from his studies of the Fade. But then I watched the English version and found it pretty ambiguous too. So I thought it was a mistake in the translation. But when I discovered the truth about Solas' real identity, it made perfect sense to me. It seems the French translators did it right after all. 

 

Plus, knowing Bioware's propension to details, I can't imagine the translators would do such a grotesque mistake. I'm confident they contacted the writer to avoid any mistake of that sort. I hope so at least... 

[SamanthaJ]

Pfft.

 

 

Varric: *accuses Solas of always mentioning the veil.

 

Solas: I don't always mention the veil.

 

Everyone Else: Lies.

 

*later*

 

Solas: *mentions the veil.

 

Varric: See, told ya.

[ACD101]

Okay, I'm still over 100 pages behind, catching up after finishing my 100+ hour first playthrough, but I thought I'd share.
 

Solas' romance is, by far, the best romance I have experienced in a game. Period. It was so beautifully tragic; it felt like a sad fairytale. I honestly can't believe that the elf race and Solas' romance were added later. Having romanced him, I feel as though the best way to play the game is to play and elf and romance Solas.

And that scene after the credits? Blew my mind; my mouth was literally hanging open. But I seriously need some closure. I'm really hoping for an expansion/dlc in the near future that follows up with Solas (and his Lavellan), because you can't just leave my heart broken like that Weekes! I don't know if anyone else was thinking this (as I'm still pretty far behind in the thread) but considering only a romanced Solas will have the more positive tarot card, do you think that maybe the only way to steer him off his path, or something, is to romance him? I'd really like that from a story perspective, but I dunno how limiting that would be for players, considering the amount who would have romanced him.

 

I made my quizzy a mage, which I think was the best story-wise. I can't get over how beautifully ironic it is that the a Dalish First, who is responsible for

Spoiler

protecting her clan against the Dread Wolf, ends up falling in love with him.

 

Also, just letting you know I named my elf Hana Lavellan after the heartwrenchingly beautiful Japanese movie 'Wolf Children'. Keep in mind I had no idea about any spoilers going into the game...yeah, if anyone has seen that movie they might know what I was feeling after finishing the game and seeing the parallels! Such a crazy, heartbreaking coincidence.

Anyway, I'll leave you with a pic of my Hana Lavellan

 

 

Oh you saw 'Wolf Children' too huh. That movie made me bawl my eyes out, but it was so good.

ugh, so much emotional content everywhere. T_T

[Char]

It's official.
I'm going to have to play an elf lady some point soon. I'm nowhere near finishing the game but the intriguing elf is definitely worthy of a closer look.

[InkQuest]

Maybe I can help with that.. or not lol 

 

I play the French version and the word they use to translate "from" was really the one that would mean he was in fact, IN (within) the Fade when he noticed her. Which I found very odd at first    Because I also, was under the impression that he meant she was the only one who could take his mind from his studies of the Fade. But then I watched the English version and found it pretty ambiguous too. So I thought it was a mistake in the translation. But when I discovered the truth about Solas' real identity, it made perfect sense to me. It seems the French translators did it right after all. 

 

Plus, knowing Bioware's propension to details, I can't imagine the translators would do such a grotesque mistake. I'm confident they contacted the writer to avoid any mistake of that sort. I hope so at least... 

 

 

I think that's really interesting! Even after beating the game I thought he meant that I was the only one who could distract him from learning, because like... wow, that's either a heck of a slip for Solas, or it implies he was napping while the conclave went on. But with what you say about the French version definitely makes me question his meaning a bit more. 

[Ajna]

Maybe I can help with that.. or not lol 

 

I play the French version and the word they use to translate "from" was really the one that would mean he was in fact, IN (within) the Fade when he noticed her. Which I found very odd at first    Because I also, was under the impression that he meant she was the only one who could take his mind from his studies of the Fade. But then I watched the English version and found it pretty ambiguous too. So I thought it was a mistake in the translation. But when I discovered the truth about Solas' real identity, it made perfect sense to me. It seems the French translators did it right after all. 

 

Plus, knowing Bioware's propension to details, I can't imagine the translators would do such a grotesque mistake. I'm confident they contacted the writer to avoid any mistake of that sort. I hope so at least... 

Wow, that certainly throws a whole new spin on things if intentional...wow, so much wow.  It wasn't until mentioned that I even read it that way and it also works...*ponder*

[Nika]

Maybe I can help with that.. or not lol

I play the French version and the word they use to translate "from" was really the one that would mean he was in fact, IN (within) the Fade when he noticed her. Which I found very odd at first Because I also, was under the impression that he meant she was the only one who could take his mind from his studies of the Fade. But then I watched the English version and found it pretty ambiguous too. So I thought it was a mistake in the translation. But when I discovered the truth about Solas' real identity, it made perfect sense to me. It seems the French translators did it right after all.

Plus, knowing Bioware's propension to details, I can't imagine the translators would do such a grotesque mistake. I'm confident they contacted the writer to avoid any mistake of that sort. I hope so at least...

Out of curiosity I checked the german version, and it's the same as the english one
As cute as it would be if he was in the fade, I think he really just means that you attracted his attention outside of the fade

[Izzyl]

I think that's really interesting! Even after beating the game I thought he meant that I was the only one who could distract him from learning, because like... wow, that's either a heck of a slip for Solas, or it implies he was napping while the conclave went on. But with what you say about the French version definitely makes me question his meaning a bit more. 

 

I'm not sure I hold the truth though...

 

But didn't one mention that Fen'Harel was "waking up" and too weak to use the Orb and that would explain why he gave the Orb to Corypheus? 

 

Ok I have a headache now lol! XD   

[Lucy Glitter]

OH MY GOD GUYS I JUST FINISHED THE GAME AND OH MY GOODNESS.

 

LIKE I MEAN BW DROPPED HINTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE GAME SO I HAD A GOOD IDEA BUT OMGGGG

 

 

OH

 

MY

 

GOD.

 

SPEECHLESS.

 

[Izzyl]

Out of curiosity I checked the german version, and it's the same as the english one
As cute as it would be if he was in the fade, I think he really just means that you attracted his attention outside of the fade

 

If this version is correct, that means the French translators did a very bad and obvious mistake 

 

Nevertheless, with either version, we still got the point that Lady Lavellan was someone utterly important to him and I think that's what matters 

[SamanthaJ]

 

2:31, Solas is being compassionate towards the small people again.

[Ajna]

OH MY GOD GUYS I JUST FINISHED THE GAME AND OH MY GOODNESS.

 

LIKE I MEAN BW DROPPED HINTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE GAME SO I HAD A GOOD IDEA BUT OMGGGG

 

 

OH

 

MY

 

GOD.

 

SPEECHLESS.

 

LUCY!  I love it when the Solassians come home after finishing

[Ajna]

Out of curiosity I checked the german version, and it's the same as the english one
As cute as it would be if he was in the fade, I think he really just means that you attracted his attention outside of the fade

As sweet as it would be, I'm inclined to agree with this, if it translates to in rather than from then there's no change really.

[uncledolan]

One thing I don't get is - if you sided with the mages and go into the future, Solas is captured. If he truly is the Dread Wolf how could he allow himself to be captured like that. Also if Corphy did manage to defeat him you would think he wouldnt allow Solas to live, or would at least have a better prison (i mean look at Corphys prison!)

 

On another note. Did anyone have the banter where Blackwall asked Solas if any spirits are more than just friends?

 

Blackwall: So Sera and I were talking and we needed you to settle a question for us

Solas: Seras involved so its going to be offensive

Blackwall: Yes probably. You meet spirits in the fade, are any of them more than just friends if you know what I am saying

Solas: Oh for.... seriously?

Blackwall: Its a natural thing to be curious about

Solas: For a 12 year old

Blackwall: Yes or no

Solas: Fade is complicated

Blackwall: Haha so you do

Solas: I didn't say that

Blackwall: Don't worry your secret is safe

Solas: Ass

Blackwall: Whos 12 now

 

Literally died laughing

[kalasaurus]

I was just fantasizing  thinking about Solas guiding Lavellan through the Fade... and then I imagined them in The Phantom of the Opera, with Solas breaking out into song about the wonders that await her:

 

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Night time sharpens, heightens each sensation

Darkness stirs and wakes imagination

Silently the senses abandon their defenses

 

Slowly, gently night unfolds its splendor

Grasp it, sense it, tremulous and tender

Turn your face away from the garish light of day

Turn your thoughts away from cold unfeeling light

And listen to the music of the night

 

Close your eyes and surrender to your darkest dreams

Purge your thoughts of the life you knew before

Close your eyes, let your spirit start to soar

And you'll live as you've never lived before

 

Softly, deftly, music shall caress you

hear it, feel it, secretly possess you,

Open up your mind, let your fantasies unwind

In this darkness that you know you cannot fight

The darkness of the music of the night

 

Let your mind start a journey to a strange new world

Leave all thoughts of the life you knew before

Let your soul take you where you long to be

Only then can you belong to me

 

Floating, falling, sweet intoxication

Touch me, trust me, savor each sensation

Let the dream begin, let your darker side give in

To the power of the music that I write

The power of the music of the night

 

You alone can make my song take flight

Help me make the music of the night

 

...I want this to happen.

[Emerald Rift]

Just finished the game last night and I had decided to romance Solas. A brutal but brilliant romance. I just wished I didn't have the banter bug, No one acknowledged the romance and couldn't get Cole's dialogue. I'm happy this thread had all the stuff I missed.

[NekOoNinja]

I have not posted since the ME3 ending drama, swore not do do it again. Then the Solas-Romance came along...

Out of curiosity, did anyone choose the deeper American voice when creating their Levallan?

I imagine it would be a bit of a rare pairing, but I would love to hear the voice acting

Spoiler

when she reacts angrily to Solas breaking up with her. Would be a scary thing, especially as she's shoving him.

 

I did, because I wanted my Lavellan to sound witty, wise, and a bit older than the average Hero in his/her 20's.

 

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She does sound like her usually calm composure is breaking at this point.

Inquisitor: "Tell me you don't care." Still delivered relatively calm, but there is a denial in her voice.

Solas: "I can't do that."

To which she replies confused, sad, and close to bursting into tears: "Tell me I was some casual dalliance so I can call you a cold hearted son of a ****** and move on!"

 

It makes the moment all the more heart-wrenching. The shoving becomes more like lashing out helplessly in confusion, than anger. When the Inquisitor turns away, it is more as if she was trying to hide the stream of tears running off her cheeks. After reloading this sequence several times, I felt like he deserved that treatment. Nothing could be worse than seeing his loved one so confused and lost.

 

Watched a video on YT with the british voice actress, and it does not sound like that at all. Highly recommend giving the deeper voice a try. Especially with the central dialouge options.

 

PS: Has anyone mentioned Solas default tarot card yet? I would suspect it is from the Suit of Disks, Five of Disks

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meaning Worry.

 

[...] the Five of Disks represents a material crisis, which can also be a crisis in home and profession, an illness or injury, anything that disturbs or destroys the material, peaceful security of the Four [Power].

There is not much to find when looking for the bright sight of the card, nevertheless it is a fact that every burning of a forest results in many little sprouts that appear afterwards, having the most fertile ground in the ashes. But of course, the old forest doesn't need to burn down completely - the card can also talk of the worry that it might do so just because it burns somewhere in the near.

Drive: Material crisis, worry about material things or health

Light: Reconsidering of values, managing to get along in hard times

Shadow: Fear, loss, failure, destruction, hindering, unpredictable changes to the bad, worsening circumstances

 

Taken from here.