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[MoonDrummer]

What is this after credit cole-solas conversation I keep hearing about?

[Chanda]

So wait. You don't get to have woo breaks with Solas like you do with Cullen?

[DragonRacer]

What is this after credit cole-solas conversation I keep hearing about?

 

I believe that after the credits are done... and you can continue playing the game... this occurs the next time you go to talk to Cole.

 

 

So wait. You don't get to have woo breaks with Solas like you do with Cullen?

 

Nope.

 

Patrick Weekes tweeted that this was done on purpose to leave it up to each player whether or not they did the horizontal mambo. 

 

Nothing is explicitly shown. Some dialogue choices can make it sound like they have, but is left ambiguous purposefully.

[Birdy]

Texture swap cracked

 

Hehe,  It's coming.  

[Catriana]

It is interesting that it's after this scene that the romance achievement unlocks. Seriously, what is up with that Bioware? Locking the choice in at the very moment you become available to make any other choice.

 

Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to get the achievement after he starts calling Lavellan his heart?

 

Spoiler

It would have, but it's not as soul crushing.

[Chanda]

I believe that after the credits are done... and you can continue playing the game... this occurs the next time you go to talk to Cole.

 

 

 

Nope.

 

Patrick Weekes tweeted that this was done on purpose to leave it up to each player whether or not they did the horizontal mambo. 

 

Nothing is explicitly shown. Some dialogue choices can make it sound like they have, but is left ambiguous purposefully.

 

Oh, no. I don't mean have sex. I mean when you romance Cullen, you can go visit him and ask him for a kiss, whenever you want after the romance is established. You ask him for a kiss, he says give me a moment to get away, and there's a cute little scene of them kissing out on the battlements outside his office. Then he goes back in to work. But you get to do it whenever you want, so the romance doesn't feel so empty.

 

Solas doesn't have that?

[Prince of Keys]

This has probably been asked before, but

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I went back and made a save where I drank from the well, and Solas was furious with me afterwards.  I knew he disapproved of it, but he said that he begged me not to drink from the well.  I honestly do not remember him ever begging me not to.  When I asked the group, he even said that someone needs to take the power from the well.  But he even clearly stated that he didn't trust Morrigan with that power.  Am I missing some dialog?  Did he actually beg anyone else?

Spoiler

No, everyone else I've spoken to has been confused about that as well. It really does seem like something's missing, but I feel like that would have been noticed before the game came out, if it's happening to everyone. :S I kind of want to make a thread about it to see if we can get some kind of clarification/see if anyone actually has had him beg them not to drink, because it's very strange.

[Ajna]

Oh, no. I don't mean have sex. I mean when you romance Cullen, you can go visit him and ask him for a kiss, whenever you want after the romance is established. You ask him for a kiss, he says give me a moment to get away, and there's a cute little scene of them kissing out on the battlements outside his office. Then he goes back in to work. But you get to do it whenever you want, so the romance doesn't feel so empty.

 

Solas doesn't have that?

Nope, he doesn't have that...

[Sah291]

Hi I'm new here, but just wanted to say how much I enjoy the character Solas and his romance. Even though he has less content than the other companions (or so I've heard, I've only done his romance so far), it's really well written. It's a credit to his writer for managing to squeeze out that much emotion and depth into a handful of scenes.

I like that they left it ambiguous how physical the relationship was. For some reason I think a straightforward sex scene would have taken something away...I don't know, I got a very Chow Yun-Fat/Michelle Yeoh vibe from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

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Which is why...

Spoiler

The tea scene was really hilarious I thought. Foreshadowing? The writers poking fun at this trope?

Anyway I knew going in it was probably going to end the way it did...actually I was expecting worse so I hope the writers will surprise us and we'll get to see more.

[Nika]

This was incredibly disappointing to me. The scenes are beautiful and meaningful, but without any other scenes in between (slice of life type stuff, like nearly everyone else gets) it feels as though the game uses a few scenes to tell us they're together and then make us sad in the end. Even his normal, every-day dialogue is lacking compared to others. 

 

 

Because of the reasons stated above, we better get lots of content with him in the DLC. 

I know what you mean... I love the scenes we have and I'm glad he's an option

But it seems kinda weird if you think about it

Like, they just make out three times and that's it

Just one more in between scene would have already done some magic I think, the two of them doing something "normal" just being together

[Catriana]

I know what you mean... I love the scenes we have and I'm glad he's an option

But it seems kinda weird if you think about it

Like, they just make out three times and that's it

Just one more inbetween scene would have already done some magic I think, the two of them doing something "normal" just being together

 

I want to draw them having a private tender moment now but I'm terrible at backgrounds. ;_; Maybe I'll write it instead.

[caridounette]

This has probably been asked before, but

Spoiler

I went back and made a save where I drank from the well, and Solas was furious with me afterwards.  I knew he disapproved of it, but he said that he begged me not to drink from the well.  I honestly do not remember him ever begging me not to.  When I asked the group, he even said that someone needs to take the power from the well.  But he even clearly stated that he didn't trust Morrigan with that power.  Am I missing some dialog?  Did he actually beg anyone else?

Spoiler

 

The only way in which he makes it apear to be a bad idea to drink from the Well is when you get the opportunity to ask him to do it, he will state forcefully state never to ask that of him / never ot ask that again.

 

But he doesnt actually beg you not to do it.

 

I feel his opinion is more in the line that it is an all around bad idea, so he wants neither Morrigan nor you to do it. But it doenst come across much.

 

 

And that leads to this question about Solas lying by omission and his real disposition towards the Inquisitor...

 

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So he pretty much knows what the Well is, since it was used in his time, and he will let you chain yourself to Mythal to protect his cover story instead of explaining the deal.

 

Theres the mitigating factor that it had to be done anyway and both options are bad (morrigan gets more power and you dont get chained or you get the power but the chain too) so why fuss over it. But that is a very weak excuse.

 

Also, since the last romance scene comes after the Temple, and things start with a romantic stroll and (as many interpretations go) him not planing to end the relationship, then he still feels connected with Lavellan after not bringing forward informations that did/or would have (depending on your choice at the well) help her make a life changing choice.

 

To me thats something else then joining the Inquisition to help out and get his orb back at the same time. I mean all companions have their own motives so thats peachy. 

 

But what about not telling you about the dangers of the Well. Even if its 'i heard it in the Fade' ... ? :S

 

[sandalisthemaker]

Okay, so Solas dislikes me ATM. He doesn't completely hate me, but our relationship is somewhat icy.

 

But our relationship is not so bad

Spoiler

because I don't have the option to punch him. Not that I would actually do it.

 

Storywise, I am at the Ball at the Winter Palace. Will I ever get his personal quest? He's the only character that will not speak to me beyond a few words. Even Sera gave me a quest despite us not being on great terms. 

[Uirebhiril]

I know what you mean... I love the scenes we have and I'm glad he's an option

But it seems kinda weird if you think about it

Like, they just make out three times and that's it

Just one more inbetween scene would have already done some magic I think, the two of them doing something "normal" just being together

 

I don't know, with their romance it seems to fit better that you think of them having quiet and intensely private moments - physical, emotional, whatever - with each other rather than casual make-out romps whenever. Maybe others felt different, but to me they didn't need to show more to indicate what was there. The passion of the kisses we did see, and the look on his face during those times said plenty.

 

And is it just me, or is the part where he rests his hand on Lavellan's back during the ball scene right before they danced one of the most touching things for being so simple? When I came to that scene I chose the stoic option, and seeing that after the weary "it was a long day" comment was just perfect. Sort of a comforting "I'm here for you" kind of thing. It's my own personal reading into it, sure, but I really liked that simple expression of feeling.

[Shechinah]

(Spoiler) Yeah, so I went and replayed the Well scene and in my game, he does not seem to approve of the idea of Morrigan drinking considering he refers to her as, and I quote, "a glutton drooling at a feast". That said, he also voices his support of taking the well's power which kind of narrows it down. Considering the only ones beside me was Cole and Cassandra and Cole had his remark, I guess Solas really wanted to throw Cassandra under the bus.

[Zaori]

I'm wondering why, after Solas leaves,

Spoiler

in the telepathical conversation he has with Cole, he tells him that he must now walk this path in solitude forever. Why does Solas feel he has to do whatever he has to do absolutely by himself? Is it his pride or does he actually have no choice?

You can see it here: 

[InkQuest]

I don't know if these've been posted, but I found these videos on tumblr and thought they added some insight to his feelings on elves, and perspective that I found I didn't really get in my playthrough. For all his criticism, he does care about their sad state. It's also interesting (imo) to note that he says he "sees no way" to help, but that seems to change by the time that last scene comes around.

V1

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V2

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​V3

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvQ7c39AzM4

[KyndredRaven]

For those following and reading or anyone who is interested, Chapter 4 of "Path of the Dreamwalker" has just been posted. Thank you for all your support!

[Addai]

Okay, so Solas dislikes me ATM. He doesn't completely hate me, but our relationship is somewhat icy.
 
But our relationship is not so bad

Spoiler

because I don't have the option to punch him. Not that I would actually do it.

 
Storywise, I am at the Ball at the Winter Palace. Will I ever get his personal quest? He's the only character that will not speak to me beyond a few words. Even Sera gave me a quest despite us not being on great terms.

I can't get Blackwall's or Vivienne's, but as far as Solas goes, I do think it's dependent on approval. A friend of mine didn't get his quest until he set out to raise his approval.

I'm wondering why, after Solas leaves, [spoiler]in the telepathical conversation he has with Cole, he tells him that he must now walk this path in solitude forever. Why does Solas feel he has to do whatever he has to do absolutely by himself? Is it his pride or does he actually have no choice?

I think it's his emphasis on freedom. He won't bind another to a responsibility that's so heavy, and his alone.

[hex0mega]

I don't know, with their romance it seems to fit better that you think of them having quiet and intensely private moments - physical, emotional, whatever - with each other rather than casual make-out romps whenever. Maybe others felt different, but to me they didn't need to show more to indicate what was there. The passion of the kisses we did see, and the look on his face during those times said plenty.

 

And is it just me, or is the part where he rests his hand on Lavellan's back during the ball scene right before they danced one of the most touching things for being so simple? When I came to that scene I chose the stoic option, and seeing that after the weary "it was a long day" comment was just perfect. Sort of a comforting "I'm here for you" kind of thing. It's my own personal reading into it, sure, but I really liked that simple expression of feeling.

 

There's a cutscene with Cullen in which you play a board game with him and get to know him--no kissing involved. Something like with Solas would have been A+. 

 

 That part was pretty touching. 

[Nika]

I don't know, with their romance it seems to fit better that you think of them having quiet and intensely private moments - physical, emotional, whatever - with each other rather than casual make-out romps whenever. Maybe others felt different, but to me they didn't need to show more to indicate what was there. The passion of the kisses we did see, and the look on his face during those times said plenty.

 

And is it just me, or is the part where he rests his hand on Lavellan's back during the ball scene right before they danced one of the most touching things for being so simple? When I came to that scene I chose the stoic option, and seeing that after the weary "it was a long day" comment was just perfect. Sort of a comforting "I'm here for you" kind of thing. It's my own personal reading into it, sure, but I really liked that simple expression of feeling.

I know what you mean, I don't even mind that there isn't an option to just go to him and kiss like the other romances have because it wouldn't fit Solas

I'm not really talking about passionate moments, for example I would have liked to see him read something to her, just a quiet moment between them

He says that he enjoys talking with her, so that would have been nice and fitting

 

Those little moments are really nice, it's sad there aren't more of them

Sure, you can't be all over each other just because you're in love but sometimes it would be nice if the LI paid a little more attention

[sandalisthemaker]

I can't get Blackwall's or Vivienne's, but as far as Solas goes, I do think it's dependent on approval. A friend of mine didn't get his quest until he set out to raise his approval.

I think it's his emphasis on freedom. He won't bind another to a responsibility that's so heavy, and his alone.

 

Hmmm... then I may never get Solas's quest. At least not on my first playthrough. 

 

I haven't gotten Blackwall or Vivienne's quests either, and they both really like my Inquisitor. 

[kalasaurus]

The way the scene up to the kiss goes and the kiss, shows him lowering her to the floor. It was obvious he had pervie intentions...

 

but then

Spoiler

he pulls back, almost scare.. and he says "vehnan please!" when you tell him you love him. To me he realized there was no way he could leave Lavellan if he proceeded with the original plan of sexing her up   So he had to stop himself or he was gone. And that is why he begs her to not make it harder. For some reason that is not her, he can't

 

The first time I saw the scene I was thinking,

 

Ooohhh yeah.  He's going to take her on the grass.   

 

And then that happened 

[scintilla]

 

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The only way in which he makes it apear to be a bad idea to drink from the Well is when you get the opportunity to ask him to do it, he will state forcefully state never to ask that of him / never ot ask that again.

 

But he doesnt actually beg you not to do it.

 

I feel his opinion is more in the line that it is an all around bad idea, so he wants neither Morrigan nor you to do it. But it doenst come across much.

 

 

And that leads to this question about Solas lying by omission and his real disposition towards the Inquisitor...

 

Spoiler

 

So he pretty much knows what the Well is, since it was used in his time, and he will let you chain yourself to Mythal to protect his cover story instead of explaining the deal.

 

Theres the mitigating factor that it had to be done anyway and both options are bad (morrigan gets more power and you dont get chained or you get the power but the chain too) so why fuss over it. But that is a very weak excuse.

 

Also, since the last romance scene comes after the Temple, and things start with a romantic stroll and (as many interpretations go) him not planing to end the relationship, then he still feels connected with Lavellan after not bringing forward informations that did/or would have (depending on your choice at the well) help her make a life changing choice.

 

To me thats something else then joining the Inquisition to help out and get his orb back at the same time. I mean all companions have their own motives so thats peachy. 

 

But what about not telling you about the dangers of the Well. Even if its 'i heard it in the Fade' ... ? :S

 

 

That is a pretty questionable choice for him. I wonder if at that point the Inquisitor and the Inquisition were becoming less important to him. It seems like the Temple of Mythal is where he comes to the serious conclusion that he needs to do more than he has and his plans are unquestionably the most important thing to him. He may also have been... emotionally compromised? All the reminders of what was must have been killing him.

 

Okay, so Solas dislikes me ATM. He doesn't completely hate me, but our relationship is somewhat icy.

 

But our relationship is not so bad

Spoiler

because I don't have the option to punch him. Not that I would actually do it.

 

Storywise, I am at the Ball at the Winter Palace. Will I ever get his personal quest? He's the only character that will not speak to me beyond a few words. Even Sera gave me a quest despite us not being on great terms. 

 

Try finding some of the elven artifacts for him? I'm positive his quest is approval linked and thiiink that the artifacts are his approval grind.

 

I don't know, with their romance it seems to fit better that you think of them having quiet and intensely private moments - physical, emotional, whatever - with each other rather than casual make-out romps whenever. Maybe others felt different, but to me they didn't need to show more to indicate what was there. The passion of the kisses we did see, and the look on his face during those times said plenty.

 

And is it just me, or is the part where he rests his hand on Lavellan's back during the ball scene right before they danced one of the most touching things for being so simple? When I came to that scene I chose the stoic option, and seeing that after the weary "it was a long day" comment was just perfect. Sort of a comforting "I'm here for you" kind of thing. It's my own personal reading into it, sure, but I really liked that simple expression of feeling.

 

I'd have been happier if there was a single scene where he wasn't reluctant and/or sad. Just something to prove that he'd been really, truly happy in the relationship at some point. Although given the state he was in, I'm beginning to doubt that he could have been truly happy even for a few minutes.

 

I'm wondering why, after Solas leaves,

Spoiler

in the telepathical conversation he has with Cole, he tells him that he must now walk this path in solitude forever. Why does Solas feel he has to do whatever he has to do absolutely by himself? Is it his pride or does he actually have no choice?

You can see it here: 

 

We don't know. He may feel that it's entirely his responsibility or that no one could help or it could be something like no one else having the power and/or knowledge to do it.

 

[Miss This or That]

...I really do hope there is a reason for that well scene confusion. We do know that one of his quests (the war map quest) is currently bugged. So maybe he would beg if you actually did that mission? Grasping for straws here. ._.