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vierrae

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And if they contain a part of the Fade, like a little compressed Fade dimensional pocket, it could explain why the Inquisitor has say over which portals to the Fade open and close. They... are the dimensional pocket. The Inquisitor's will and the power the orb bestowed upon them as manifested by the mark allows them to weave the Physical World and the Fade together or apart - stitching up holes or seam-ripping as they please.

That might even just be all the Inquisitor has gathered about the mark. All Solas reveals is "Hey bra, lift your hand towards the rift, and pull it back. That's all there is to it. Promise. It's not like you could use it for other stuff. Like I planned to. Opps, did I say that? Let's pretend I didn't." It could be capable of things even more fantastic and powerful beyond opening and closing rift portals and Fadewalking. They're just purposefully kept ignorant of its potential.

I think it's interesting that what Solas does post-game, lamenting the loss of the orb, isn't to run off to the crossroads, opening eluvians willy-nilly. No. He goes off in search of power - or at the very least a way to magnify what he already has. Orb style. And he does so by taking the power from the second-most head of the very pantheon he once belonged to.

Another thing. Solas also says in a conversation with Dorian:

Dorian: I can't believe you entered the Fade. Physically.
Solas: You think that is an achievement of which to be proud?
Dorian: It's the second time that's been done in all of history. That's not nothing, Solas.
Solas: In all of human history.
Dorian: The Fade is still a mystery to us humans, yes. Probably always will be.
Solas: Perhaps it's best it remain that way.
 
So what do we glean from this conversation? Physically walking the fade? Not a new thing. Amongst ancient elves, not even remotely a new thing. Secondly, Fadewalking isn't necessarily a good thing. While it's clear Solas was excited to do so during his visit to the Fade should he be brought with the Inquisitor on the Adamant mission, something about Fadewalking being readily available to all people who desire access is dangerous and unwise. Kind of like handing everyone on the planet a weapon they don't understand with hefty consequences they didn't intend or desire.

And to answer someone's question, perhaps when they orb is destroyed, the part of the Fade within it goes back to the Fade because it's no longer held in its container (it's... broken in half) and that which isn't, is bound to the Inquisitor, never to be parted except in death. Even if they were to mend the orb, they'd have to replace the fade within it. Cause it's gone. Which would.. likely require a spell of massive proportions AND a person who could physically walk the fade to place it within a physical, real container, and bring it back.

 

Here goes "needle and thread" metaphor, becoming quite literal.

 

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Totally! The Veil would act like bad reception. It slows down the response time of the Fade to your will and limits the amount of Fade you can pull towards you at any one time. It's the PERFECT level cap... Hence mages for centuries trying to overcome it with 1) blood magic and human sacrifice, 2) blight magic, and 3) lyrium. Like cheat codes.

Which are... all things Corypheus utilizes in an effort to gain access to the Fade physically (both now and in the past) and mirror the power of the Orb.

 

Yess. That does make a lot of sense. I suppose the ultimate question is: when was the veil created? And presumably, this 'wall' caused something to go wrong beyond just a limited pool of super powered individuals. Perhaps it interrupted the lyrium's song, causing red lyrium to be born? Or, over time, someone else learned how to exploit the veil for their own ends. 


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She kinda dropped it and it broke, which annoyed me a little bit tbh..the way she just dropped it like it was nothing.

 

I don't remember seeing any glowy magic effect round it at that point though so I always thought she'd drained the power from it and it was just a chunk of carved rock (or whatever it was made of.) at that point. It also ;look intact on the ground. It's only later you see in in pieces.


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Also, wish Meredith turning into a statue of red lyrium made more sense to me.  She tried to draw so much fade through that the corresponding Will required to complete the attempted spell turned her entire being into Song?  I... guess...?

 

*baffled shrug*

Well look at how red lyrium is being farmed in DAI.  Using bodies as crops.  I think Meredith's drawing on so much of the red lyrium's power greatly accelerated the conversion process.  To the point that she just turned into red lyrium all at once.  The red lyrium consumes the body slowly over time to convert it into more red lyrium.  Not in Meredith's case though, since she was so greedy.


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Here goes "needle and thread" metaphor, becoming quite literal.

 

Mims, lizasaurus, I hereby officially proclaim my eternal love to you both. Your theorycrafting is amazing, and fun to read. And sometimes participate in  :rolleyes:

 

Aww, I'm just a crazy person. <3 But thank you. Liza's stuff is always awesome to read through. Everything is awesome to read through.

 

Iloveallofyou. 



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And this is why a small part of me thinks he'll end up killing himself if you romanced him.  He couldn't bring himself to kill Lavellan.  Mythal's power is as much a part of him as his heart - as she would say.

 

Stupid fool. Just go home and read a book in your pajamas and scowl at Sera like the grumpy old man you are.

 

You know, that would make one hell of a story to experience for utter feels.

 

But if something like that were to happen? I would rage at the utter smack in the face it would be for only a romanced Solas to die. :P



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But can you eat it... raw?


Smothered in ranch dressing? Yes please.

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Can anyone explain why when you find a pile of red lyrium you destroy a single rock and call it a day?


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Here's a better question anyway do you save your LI or do you save the entire rest of the inquisitions inner circle. Including Krem, Dagna and Lace.

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Ok...I know this picture isn't Solas related, but it made me giggle. Seriously..the sword is friggin' huge for my tiny elf..it must be gigantic for a dwarf!!

 

http://ghost-of-rais...mmand-506863794


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Here's a better question anyway do you save your LI or do you save the entire rest of the inquisitions inner circle. Including Krem, Dagna and Lace.

 

If the Inner Circle is there, plus Krem, Dagna and Harding then whatever they need saving from is already dead.  And Krem is celebrating the traditional Vint way - standing on a chair with a bottle up his nose.


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Here's a better question anyway do you save your LI or do you save the entire rest of the inquisitions inner circle. Including Krem, Dagna and Lace.

You're evil!

 

I love you Solas, but I am sorry I would have to save everyone else.  If it were a choice between Solas or strangers, Solas wins.  

 

Uggh let's hope that never actually becomes a choice in game. 


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So, today on the Solas Thread menu:

 

- Theories about the Orb

- Marriage proposals

- broccoli

 

Because why the heck not  :P


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You're evil!

I love you Solas, but I am sorry I would have to save everyone else. If it were a choice between Solas or strangers, Solas wins.

Uggh let's hope that never actually becomes a choice in game.


And you know cullen would never speak to you again if you saved him over everyone. He would be so mad.

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Can anyone explain why when you find a pile of red lyrium you destroy a single rock and call it a day?

 

I will never understand this. There are whole rings of red lyrium in Emprise and it's like "Oh, I'll go over here and knock over this one single piece, and that'll make it all better!" 


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#54317
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Can anyone explain why when you find a pile of red lyrium you destroy a single rock and call it a day?

Because primitive game mechanics, probably *shrugs* You can hear this conversation between a tranquil and a dwarf, where it's stated, that red lyrium growth is rapid and almost impossible to stop.

 

 

So, today on the Solas Thread menu:

 

- Theories about the Orb

- Marriage proposals

- broccoli

 

Because why the heck not   :P

Gah, I'm out of likes. Again.

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Here's a better question anyway do you save your LI or do you save the entire rest of the inquisitions inner circle. Including Krem, Dagna and Lace.

 

...

 

I'd probably save Solas? My head-canon Lavellan is kind of a racist, boop boop. 


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Here's a better question anyway do you save your LI or do you save the entire rest of the inquisitions inner circle. Including Krem, Dagna and Lace.

 

Is this from the train again? If so then the Inquisitor just opens a fade rift in front of the train and sends it into the fade.

 

Everyone lives.

 

Hmmm unless it's a passenger train. That might not be so good. :ph34r:


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Is this from the train again? If so then the Inquisitor just opens a fade rift in front of the train and sends it into the fade.

 

Everyone lives.

 

Hmmm unless it's a passenger train. That might not be so good. :ph34r:

Your friends are ON the passenger train, and your LI is tied to the tracks!


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And you know cullen would never speak to you again if you saved him over everyone. He would be so mad.

I don't think he would survive the guilt.  



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So, today on the Solas Thread menu:

 

- Theories about the Orb

- Marriage proposals

- broccoli

 

Because why the heck not  :P

Broccoli is one of the more beloved vegetables it appears. Should have picked something else like cauliflower or squash... !!! bitter gourd!



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Because primitive game mechanics, probably *shrugs* You can hear this conversation between a tranquil and a dwarf, where it's stated, that red lyrium growth is rapid and almost impossible to stop.

 

 
Gah, I'm out of likes. Again.

 

Yeah unfortunately it's a game mechanics > story sense type of thing.  I always thought it strange, *shrug* but carried on.



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Broccoli is one of the more beloved vegetables it appears. Should have picked something else like cauliflower or squash... !!! bitter gourd!

I love vegetables.  I love cauliflower and squash.  I hate green peas though.  



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Your friends are ON the passenger train, and your LI is tied to the tracks!

I would um...do some crazy time magic that took everyone back to a time before this ever happened and then I would stop the events that led to this situation....yes that is what I would do...