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And real life is worse. :(
WHO ARE THE SEA PEOPLE, HISTORY? WHY WON'T YOU GIVE ME ANSWERS THAT AREN'T FULL OF 'Assuming that', 'This might', OR 'This is the best guess'?

*ahem*

Also, the actual circumstances behind Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin's deaths. While my Shogun II adventures suggest that, all historical evidence to the contrary, Shingen conquered the Uesugi lands and Kenshin committed seppuku, before Shingen himself met his death at the hands of a young Oda Nobunaga and his slightly OP Bow Samurai in a siege in a burned down Ikko Ikki fort in the winter of 1555, I'm not sure if that's a viable primary source.  :huh:

Also, I'd like even more concrete evidence to shove into Ancient Aliens faces and gloat.  ^_^

 

Iron Bull says that 'we came south', doesn't he? Which would suggest that the Qunari homeland lies in the Boeric Isles or even further north, as opposed to Amaranth. Their weakness to cold in Origins suggests that it isn't too far north that it stops being warm. I wonder if the Parladians have anything to do with it? They're probably just quirky neighbors to the kossith. I'm almost hoping that the Executors are in Amaranth and are something else, so that we have them and the kossith to worry about. :D

Caddius. Caddius. Obviously I know the answer but I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to tell you I know but then tell you I'm not telling you, because I like being shrouded in mystery and intrigue. Like history. And Solas. ;D

Qunari and aversion to cold: I thought it was because they don't wear shirts.

The Executors are indeed a mysterious bunch. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they pop up in future!



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Caddius. Caddius. Obviously I know the answer but I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to tell you I know but then tell you I'm not telling you, because I like being shrouded in mystery and intrigue. Like history. And Solas. ;D

Qunari and aversion to cold: I thought it was because they don't wear shirts.

The Executors are indeed a mysterious bunch. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they pop up in future!

 

Caddius. Caddius. Obviously I know the answer but I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to tell you I know but then tell you I'm not telling you, because I like being shrouded in mystery and intrigue. Like history. And Solas. ;D

Qunari and aversion to cold: I thought it was because they don't wear shirts.

The Executors are indeed a mysterious bunch. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they pop up in future!

The Qunari and Tal-Vashoth in Origins had a weakness to cold, and they were sadly fully clothed. :(

Also, damn you. :P You've let Weekes gain too much influence over you.

As for the mystery behind the daimyos, being assassinated by a ninja hiding in the toilet when you're just trying to use the privy is a pretty legendary ending. :D Reminds me of the story about a siege on a German castle on an island in the Rhine. Some poor peasant soldier was made to climb up through the feces-stained wall that had an opening into the 'restroom'. The poor bastard got stuck half-way up. The defenders had a bit of 'fun' at his expense before putting him out of his misery.  :unsure:

History!  :lol:



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You guys make me so happy <3
  Just finished my second year of uni and picked up a copy of World of Thedas 2. IT IS SO CHUNKY! At least double to size of the first! Time to lose myself in lore again <3.

  (Ps. I merged a few origin accounts together, resulting in me needing to make a new forum account!) 

 

Squish!!!  

 

*quickly shoves gloves into hands* 

 

Welcome back to the lab!   ヾ( ≧w≦ )ノ"


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^Totally agree! 

 

it fits far too well to brush off as coincidence. Or it could be coincidence. Without a firm basis, all we have is conjecture. But, it is fun to fiddle with strings and see what music one ends up with! Don't get me wrong! That the twins were rarely seen apart implies they could be one in the same, to be sure. I still think that might be the case. However, I advise remaining open to all possibilities at this point... while drawing on in-game established lore and less so real world lore. There's much too much chaos to be derived from the real world if we open that gate without more concrete in-game reasoning.

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Ah!!  No, sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that any of these connections should be taken as law- only that that particular piece fits in-game lore well enough to believe the allusion was intentional.  Everything we post is open for debate- I was just referring to how firm the relationship felt to me.  There's always a risk of perceiving unintended connections when we draw parallels between our world and the DA universe, but in some cases (like this one) they're bolstered by the fact that they don't stand alone: they add additional support for established lore, suggest potential context, or prime us to pick up on some of the more subtle in-game clues. 

 

Crackpot example!  

 

I'd spoiler this whole thing, but the tags won't cooperate.  =w=  If insanity doesn't float your boat, feel free to skip~

 

The Dalish myth of Elgar'nan's birth describes the Sun bowing his head to the Earth, and that Elgar'nan came forth where the two met.  Consider how that description parallels the birth of our own moon: a massive collision between primordial Earth and another planetoid.  As a basic theory, this would suggest a link between Elgar'nan and the moon that might explain the connection we find in game- and as a bonus, would make his now-empty egg literally one of Thedas' moons. (Giving us a plausible reason why the two don't have a cataclysmic affect on the planet's orbit and tides, despite being much closer / larger than our own.  Hollow shells = far less mass.)  It also primes us to consider the possibility that meteor impacts correlate to impregnation of the Earth for future theorycraft.

 

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The same tale goes on to describe the Sun burning the first creation to ashes- obliterating all life on the planet and being cast down by Elgar'nan in vengeance- and again, we have a potential real-life parallel in our own Earth's Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event.

 

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So we have a second meteoric impact as the Sun is cast down to Earth, which -in respect to the potential impregnation parallel touched on earlier- gives us a possible origin for the Stone.  And though the connection feels tenuous at first, this theory has a reasonable amount of in-game support.  The Nexus golem claims "The Stone lives beneath Orlais", and Dalish legends attribute the volcanic Nahashin marshes to the heat of the Sun's imprisonment. (Bonus crackpot theory: the combination of the two suggests the unborn Stone has the potential to be the first primordial Dark Ritual, a prison for the Sun's OGS.)  We also have the enormous impact crater that seems to underlie the Tirishan forest and ancient signs of intense heat / geothermal activity in the surrounding area.  It's difficult to eyeball the size of the theoretical impact, but taking Ferelden/Orlais as a north-south inversion of Europe and the scale that would give us, it seems to be considerably larger than our planet's own Chicxulub crater.  The devastation from such an impact would have been immense, and if we turn back to real-world mythologies, we have reason to suspect that it may have been fatal for the primordial entity Earth.

 

The parallel here is the Shinto myth describing the birth of Kagutsuchi.  In the Japanese tale, the two world-creating deities (Izanami and Izanagi) have several children, forming the islands that become Japan- but the birth of their last- the fire God Kagutsuchi (whose name derives from ancient Japanese for "shining force", a plausible parallel for the Sun) burns Izanami and kills her.  In some versions, the father Izanagi immediately kills the child, cutting him into eight pieces that become volcanoes where they touch the earth, while the blood that drips from his sword becomes the water goddess Mizuhame.  In others, Izanami gives birth to Mizuhame in her death throes, instructing her to pacify Kagutsuchi if he should become violent- a relatively straightforward parallel for the Dalish description of Mythal's origin and purpose.

 

That said, the parallels between the game universe and our own are never direct, and the historic truth is likely to have as loose a resemblance to the Dalish tale as the real-world myth above.  It does, however, raise the possibility that the Dalish entity "Earth" is (or was) a living entity and primes us to recognize other in-game breadcrumbs that might be intended to lead us to that conclusion. 

 

First, we have the macro-micro parallels between geological structures and biological tissues.  One of the most obvious parallels is lyrium.  Blood and neural systems are collapsed into one in the Dragon Age universe, and the "blood of the Earth" is no exception.  The crystalline structures we find in game don't resemble veins of mineral nearly as closely as they do circulatory veins and the branching dendrites of neurons.  

 

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This is apparent in lyrium's effect as well- most obviously in its relationship to dwarves, both in the electromagnetic charge that seems to link them to the Stone's hive mind (the neural aspect) and in their role as blood-based immune system for the fetal Stone (maternal antibodies inherited from the Earth).  This has all been chewed through before, so skipping to keep this from turning into a thesis-length manifesto.  >w<;  

 

Other geological structures we find in game are also suspicious from a macro/microscopic standpoint.  Basalt formations seem to mirror muscle:

 

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The cracked, blackened earth we find in the crevice of the Abyssal Rift (prime suspect for the mythological abyss the Sun was thrown into) resembles layers of dermis and third-degree burn damage, a point underscored by the unique characteristics of the surrounding land we find in the fade rift that opens near Adamant:

 

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The distinctive pattern on the left is hard not to recognize as collagen banding, a red flag for skin... or more likely in this context, scar tissue.  

 

These fade structures also have surface features that are distinctly not-geological in nature:

 

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Keratin claws or horns?   My grasp of biological microstructures fails me on this one.  Definitely not stone, though.

 

Anyway!  This is getting way too long for the point being made, which was just that real-world parallels can lead us to interesting in-game speculation.  Is this likely to be an accurate picture of Gaider's world?  Good lord, no.  It's 75% supposition and guesswork, pulled together in some cases by the thinnest of threads.  But it does give us somewhere to start in terms of evaluating evidence or counter-evidence against a standing theory, which gets us that much closer to understanding the big picture.  ^w^


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See, I've never bought into your Triple Threat Theory, Madrar. But the unique way you make connections and create underlying systems to it is fascinating to me as a writer. I'm half tempted on my lazy days to hand you drafts of books and then have you tell me what the plot is hinting at, and what actually happened in the myths.  :lol: Too complex for the kind of plot Bioware seems to be going for. Exactly as complex as the kind of plots I love.  :ph34r:  And then as I'm reading your theories, you pick up on things that went over my head, and I use them for other theories. And the conflicts between all the theories and the discussions about them usually further understanding.

...Which is why I kept throwing theory-crafting bait at you during your absence.  :lol: The results were always enlightening. Like a trail of calligraphy pens for me, or happy Solas fans for Sable to hell-spiral.  :P

 

Also, Japanese mythology: I love you, Japan, but sometimes you get a little out there.  :lol:


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I'm on a quoting frenzy! 
 

Yes. I had an inkling when playing the game for a 2nd time... but when I heard it was actually so, it broke my heart. There really needs to be a DLC with further Solas romance content. This thread will likely riot if there isn't.

 

That line of thinking leads to elves hoping to become spirits themselves one day, right? What was it I read once... the elves who successfully reach  perfect uthenara no longer require sustenance of honey and herbs. They are instead sustained by the fade itself. And this is just normal elves. What about the Dreamers -- exactly what does uthenara do for them? Remember Dreamers were (supposedly) the highest class of elven citizen. If this is so, then Solas' comments on the elven gods being nobility would imply they were possibly all Dreamers. We know Mythal's spirit found Flemeth, and we know Mythal was murdered beforehand... so there's seemingly some form of transformation happening there. Transcendence in to a spirit-like form?

The Lady of the Forest thing really stuck out for me in DA:O... so I'm glad you mentioned it. In fact I remember there was a lot of intense theory crafting happening during that time regarding that particular quest.
 

 

Without a doubt they've done a ton of research in to existing lores, yeah! Mythology geekdom runs rampant amongst a lot of us, I'm sure. No need to apologise for the idioms, haha. And like I said I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubbles. It's fun stuff to read.

In short, you're pinpointing the notion that 'there's no such thing as originality', ie: all ideas are born from pre-conceived ideas. It's a point of debate in the creative field but it's openly accepted. The key is you mutate and change and make something new and unique. The iris and the toe nail and even the tibia of the beast might be from sources A, B and C... but the beast in and of itself is something entirely new altogether. At least, that's how it should be, if they've done their job right. And it's this reason why I hesitate to call upon so many real-world examples and theory without really firm in-game evidence based on established in-game lore. Otherwise, it's really easy to cherry pick from whatever seems familiar... and might just lead in circles. Might. Then again, at the least it might also lead you to the tibia. :)

 

 

:P That's my "professional hazard" as a translator, as they say in Hungarian - using idioms from one language in a different language, haha.

 

Well, it's not exactly what I was getting at, but you're right, I tend to approach things from that stance, though I wouldn't go so far to say that "there is no such thing as originality;" as you say, there is already originality in the recombination of elements. In general I would rather say that a good work of art tends to touch upon familiar themes without being enslaved to them. That's not to say that nothing new can be introduced and still be good. I merely think that having familiar anchor points in a story is exactly the point where people can engage in the work of art.

 

Putting that aside, I understand your hesitation, yet I would point out that Dragon Age would be far less engaging if we actually had solid in-game evidence that they are copying real mythology (or anything at all, for that matter, apart from an Easter egg here and there) and using it as a convenient plot device; regardless, I wouldn't say that this should deter us from drawing parallels all over the place. I don't think anyone really feels that these are rock solid pieces of evidence, i.e. "YES! Bioware totally read up on Roman mythology, now it all makes sense! Now we can forget about it and grab a cup of coffee." Plus part of the fun is trying to draw DA as much into our world as is possible, just as it draws us into its world while we play it and for this to work there has to be an element of enigma, i.e. we don't have solid evidence either way, only tidbits.

 

Plus I have to say that these are good points generally, even if I don't agree with all of them. It seems more than idle speculation once there are enough lines drawn and the point I was trying to make was that it doesn't have to be the right solution as long as it leads to a jump in our understanding. I agree that there needs to be a feedback loop where we take all this conjecture and feed it back into in-game lore and hunt for evidence to prove or disprove these hypotheses, but that does not diminish the importance of just letting our minds wander to find parallels where we can; it is the science of exploring the unknown. Not all of it will stick, naturally, but that's fine - I'm just saying this is one stage out of a long process, so there need be no worry about haring off in strange directions. (The theories would collapse in on themselves after a while anyway if there isn't enough in-game evidence or if we find something to refute it absolutely.)


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A curious thought occured to me late last night,

As I wandered through the tomes of lore.

The Elven slaves forgot most of their Gods,

So did the Creators perhaps number more?

 

Perhaps this lead to the Forgotten Ones,

Creators with with names lost to time?

Angry at their place in the pantheon lost,

And at madmen theorising in rhyme?

 

...

 

(Yeah, I have absolutely no idea why I did that...?)

 

:huh:

 

Agreed.   I think we'll find quite a few rubbed-out cartouches and suspiciously-defaced statuary when we finally make it to Par Vollen (a la Akhenaten, Hatsheput, and other examples of ancient Egyptian damnatio memoriae.)


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Alright, to curb my enthusiasm and dig out the voice from the realm of reality: I freely admit that all of my theory crafting is hypothetical conjecture and I do realize that it is highly unlikely that Bioware literally dug through thousands of pages worth of mythology just to create lore for DA; though it is true that they just may have drawn inspiration from real life mythology in certain instances where so many parallels can be found (it would definitely not be the first time). I agree that it would be a mistake to "let the horse run away with us" as we say in Hungarian (sorry, my idioms in English are a bit dodgy :D I'm working in parallel here) and assume that these conclusions are hard fact, yet I merely follow breadcrumbs and inspiration and see how far I can build such a theory; as with any good hypothesis, I aim to prove and disprove it both: I would never claim my arguments are any good unless they can withstand a good debate, they need to be challenged, ultimately.    <snip>

 

*mental high five*

 

I've really got to start reading everything before jumping in to respond.  Posting "Yeah, what Gwyvian said" would have saved a good ten minutes and half a page of borderline insane theorycraft.  =w=


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*mental high five*

 

I've really got to start reading everything before jumping in to respond.  Posting "Yeah, what Gwyvian said" would have saved a good ten minutes and half a page of borderline insane theorycraft.  =w=

 

Well I always enjoy reading your borderline insane theorycraft, so....  :lol:


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Having your theory posts on screen gives me a +2 to my intelligence stat.

 

I may not understand it, but I feel smarter.


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So those scary PS4 people I mentioned? I will sic them on anyone who spoils Wild Hunt while I'm waiting to get it on Thursday. (Yes, Siha, you're included in the scary people this time. :P )

Also, I'll send you a lot of frowny faces. And GIF's of Merrill making frowny faces.  :ph34r:

Considering how, well, ridiculously considerate this thread has been about spoilers for an expansion that's actually part of this game, I don't think I have anything to worry about, it's just fun to threaten people on occasion.  :lol:



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It seems more than idle speculation once there are enough lines drawn and the point I was trying to make was that it doesn't have to be the right solution as long as it leads to a jump in our understanding. I agree that there needs to be a feedback loop where we take all this conjecture and feed it back into in-game lore and hunt for evidence to prove or disprove these hypotheses, but that does not diminish the importance of just letting our minds wander to find parallels where we can; it is the science of exploring the unknown. Not all of it will stick, naturally, but that's fine - I'm just saying this is one stage out of a long process, so there need be no worry about haring off in strange directions. (The theories would collapse in on themselves after a while anyway if there isn't enough in-game evidence or if we find something to refute it absolutely.)

 

Yeah! And don't get me wrong, I never meant to imply that letting our minds wander is bad! Not at all! That'd be a bit insane and not nearly as entertaining. Go off in all the strange directions you like. xD

 

*mental high five*

 

I've really got to start reading everything before jumping in to respond.  Posting "Yeah, what Gwyvian said" would have saved a good ten minutes and half a page of borderline insane theorycraft.  =w=

 

Don't do that. It's not fun if you do that! Like I said from the start, I enjoy reading your guys' theory craft. I also think it might be ... beyond.. what the team intended for us to surmise. But again, nothing wrong with airing out ideas. It does indeed give off inspiration  :D

I liked your post with pictures! I can explain some of it away with theories on the environment development process, but that would be boring and based on conjecture, anyway.

In all, how dare you guys think I'm stifling the strangeness. Keep it up! I'll just be a few hundred ladder rungs below you, looking up in awe once in a while.


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Yeah! And don't get me wrong, I never meant to imply that letting our minds wander is bad! Not at all! That'd be a bit insane and not nearly as entertaining. Go off in all the strange directions you like. xD

 

 

Don't do that. It's not fun if you do that! Like I said from the start, I enjoy reading your guys' theory craft. I also think it might be ... beyond.. what the team intended for us to surmise. But again, nothing wrong with airing out ideas :D

I liked your post with pictures! I can explain some of it away with theories on the environment development process, but that would be boring and based on conjecture, anyway.

In all, how dare you guys think I'm stifling the strangeness. Keep it up! I'll just be a few hundred ladder rungs below you, looking up in awe once in a while.

 

Well, once we're on the subject of debates....  :P any good argument deserves a challenge. Don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing you of stifling strangeness, I am merely defending the position of wild theorycraft based in our mythology.  :D

 

IT'S ALL META!  :bandit:

 

Addendum: I think there's a solid argument to be had for hitting the mark by accident; whatever the team intended originally, we just might piece together amazing secrets completely accidentally (or completely empirically for that matter) with all of this. I would argue that they did intend for people to do this sort of thing in a broader sense, though; suspension of disbelief being what it is. I'll stop now, really.  :D

 

Do you think they are watching us...?  :?


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Well, once we're on the subject of debates....  :P any good argument deserves a challenge. Don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing you of stifling strangeness, I am merely defending the position of wild theorycraft based in our mythology.  :D

 

IT'S ALL META!  :bandit:

 

Addendum: I think there's a solid argument to be had for hitting the mark by accident; whatever the team intended originally, we just might piece together amazing secrets completely accidentally (or completely empirically for that matter) with all of this. I would argue that they did intend for people to do this sort of thing in a broader sense, though; suspension of disbelief being what it is. I'll stop now, really.  :D

 

Do you think they are watching us...?  :?

...what if they're one of us? :o


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...what if they're one of us? :o

 

Ooooh! *tingle*

 

:bandit: I'm watching you. All of you.  :lol:


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So those scary PS4 people I mentioned? I will sic them on anyone who spoils Wild Hunt while I'm waiting to get it on Thursday. (Yes, Siha, you're included in the scary people this time. :P )

Also, I'll send you a lot of frowny faces. And GIF's of Merrill making frowny faces.  :ph34r:

Considering how, well, ridiculously considerate this thread has been about spoilers for an expansion that's actually part of this game, I don't think I have anything to worry about, it's just fun to threaten people on occasion.  :lol:

I might come back around just to spoil everything for you :P And talk about how awesome cdpr and the game is, lol. And Triss....

 

Won't lie though, Yennifer is looking... very, very good. Still sticking with Triss though if that's allowed.


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Ooooh! *tingle*

 

:bandit: I'm watching you. All of you.  :lol:

Back when she was just known as 'Scribbles', I remember the furor and hilarity when one of the Josephine Posters revealed herself to be Allegra Clark, Josie's actress, cunningly disguised as Captain Allegra.  :lol:  :lol:


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I might come back around just to spoil everything for you :P And talk about how awesome cdpr and the game is, lol. And Triss....

 

Won't lie though, Yennifer is looking... very, very good. Still sticking with Triss though if that's allowed.

:D Fanboying over CDProjekt is always allowed. :D

It's hardly a spoiler that Yen looks good. She moisturizes.  :lol:

Just...just, very discreetly, if you can figure it out, which world-status would you recommend setting up?  :ph34r: I'm torn, dammit.



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Back when she was just known as 'Scribbles', I remember the furor and hilarity when one of the Josephine Posters revealed herself to be Allegra Clark, Josie's actress, cunningly disguised as Captain Allegra.  :lol:  :lol:

 

This would actually be awesome to experience. I seriously love these guys.  :wub:

 

:bandit: *watches*


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This would actually be awesome to experience. I seriously love these guys.  :wub:

 

:bandit: *watches*

I've always had my suspicions about Sable.  :ph34r: And Siha. And the Colonel. And Madrar. And Illyria. And Sifr. And the guy that gives me my paranoia pills.  <_<


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I've always had my suspicions about Sable.  :ph34r: And Siha. And the Colonel. And Madrar. And Illyria. And Sifr. And the guy that gives me my paranoia pills.  <_<

 

Quite a list of suspects.  :bandit: We'll keep an eye on them all, mwahahaha!



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Ah!!  No, sorry.  I didn't mean to imply that any of these connections should be taken as law- only that that particular piece fits in-game lore well enough to believe the allusion was intentional.  Everything we post is open for debate- I was just referring to how firm the relationship felt to me.  There's always a risk of perceiving unintended connections when we draw parallels between our world and the DA universe, but in some cases (like this one) they're bolstered by the fact that they don't stand alone: they add additional support for established lore, suggest potential context, or prime us to pick up on some of the more subtle in-game clues. 

 

Crackpot example!  

 

I'd spoiler this whole thing, but the tags won't cooperate.  =w=  If insanity doesn't float your boat, feel free to skip~

 

The Dalish myth of Elgar'nan's birth describes the Sun bowing his head to the Earth, and that Elgar'nan came forth where the two met.  Consider how that description parallels the birth of our own moon: a massive collision between primordial Earth and another planetoid.  As a basic theory, this would suggest a link between Elgar'nan and the moon that might explain the connection we find in game- and as a bonus, would make his now-empty egg literally one of Thedas' moons, giving us a plausible reason why the two don't have a cataclysmic affect on the planet's orbit and tides, despite being much closer / larger than our own.  (Hollow shells = far less mass.)  It also primes us to consider the possibility that meteor impacts correlate to impregnation of the Earth for future theorycraft.

 

Spoiler

 

The same tale goes on to describe the Sun burning the first creation to ashes- obliterating all life on the planet and being cast down by Elgar'nan in vengeance- and again, we have a potential real-life parallel in our own Earth's Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event.

 

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So we have a second meteoric impact as the Sun is cast down to Earth, which -in respect to the potential impregnation parallel touched on earlier- gives us a possible origin for the Stone.  And though the connection feels tenuous at first, this theory has a reasonable amount of in-game support.  The Nexus golem claims "The Stone lives beneath Orlais", and Dalish legends attribute the volcanic Nahashin marshes to the heat of the Sun's imprisonment. (Bonus crackpot theory: the combination of the two suggests the unborn Stone has the potential to be the first primordial Dark Ritual, a prison for the Sun's OGS.)  We also have the enormous impact crater that seems to underlie the Tirishan forest and ancient signs of intense heat / geothermal activity in the surrounding area.  It's difficult to eyeball the size of the theoretical impact, but taking Ferelden/Orlais as a north-south inversion of Europe and the scale that would give us, it seems to be considerably larger than our planet's own Chicxulub crater.  The devastation from such an impact would have been immense, and if we turn back to real-world mythologies, we have reason to suspect that it may have been fatal for the primordial entity Earth.

 

Well, while not big enough to be something that is capable of an extinction level event, there's that massive crater in the Hissing Wastes that's impact would probably been in the range of a dozen or so megatons? That is, assuming it's the same size as the real world Barringer Crater near Flagstaff, which it was probably a reference to?

 

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I always though that the blankened and mottled looking earth around the Western Approach was to indicate that this part of the land was still Blighted, centuries after the Second Blight because of it's proximity to the Abyssal Rift, which supposedly lead down to the Deep Roads, and to a lesser degree, the roaming bands of Darkspawn that occasionally venture across the Approach?

 

Although, if Blight-touched soil has an appearance similar to scar tissue, that would make it far more creepier?


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Agreed.   I think we'll find quite a few rubbed-out cartouches and suspiciously-defaced statuary when we finally make it to Par Vollen (a la Akhenaten, Hatsheput, and other examples of ancient Egyptian damnatio memoriae.)

 

What's interesting about the Qunari how that traces of their previous animistic worship have been adapted to the Qun? While religious worship of objects have ceased, they nonetheless still see important items such as the Tome of Koslun and Asala as containing a sense of purpose that allows them to transcend beyond ordinary objects, giving them something akin to a soul in their eyes?

 

One of the things I liked about Tallis was how she compared the Tome of Koslun to Bianca, it was interesting that she doesn't question Varric treating his crossbow as a person as being strange in the slightest? Makes me wonder if such anthropomorphic personification is common under the Qun?

 

That's why if you had Sten and Dog be the ones to do the prison break in Fort Drakon in Origins, Sten ended up having a brief conversation with Dog before realising what he was doing? Perhaps it wasn't because he'd started to go native after being in Ferelden too long (as he feared), but because since Dog is a living weapon (as he previous noted), he felt it only natural to talk to him?

 

And speaking of Akenhaten and the Egyptions, now you've gotten me thinking of the fun parallels between Aten and the Maker, both monotheistic solar deities that replaced a previously diverse pantheon of other gods? The only difference is that the Cult of the Maker was far more successful than Akhenaten's cult?

 

I've always had my suspicions about Sable.  :ph34r: And Siha. And the Colonel. And Madrar. And Illyria. And Sifr. And the guy that gives me my paranoia pills.  <_<

 

If I was one of the devs, I'd definitely troll you guy with cryptic hints more often... but sadly I'm not... (at least, not yet...)

 

(Seriously Bioware, I'd love a job...)

 

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No new Solas art this morning...

 

but I did find this beautiful Fenris and Hawke

http://agregor.devia...yrium-534006580

 

 

and a Halla

http://sagitarr.devi...Halla-534035779


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I've always had my suspicions about Sable.  :ph34r: And Siha. And the Colonel. And Madrar. And Illyria. And Sifr. And the guy that gives me my paranoia pills.  <_<

 

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I was so much worse in the Harry Potter fandom.  It's kind of why I stopped theorycrafting; I wrecked a decent chunk of the sixth and seventh books for myself.  So now I just sit here and read as you guys charge off into wonderful, wild, rainbow Blight-filled dimensions  :D

 

The devs have clearly seeded the world and lore with way, way more story hooks and potential conspiracy theories than they could ever need.  I think a lot of it IS there intentionally, it just might not be part of the story of Dragon Age so far.  Maybe it'll turn up in the next game, or two games down the line.


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