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[Cee]

That, and he does seem to be under some sort of time constraint, as to his need to act now. While part of it may a desire to act as quickly as possible due to guilt, part of it might be for other reasons, which compelled him to need to act and take Mythal's power and begin the process of whatever he's doing.

[naddaya]

Very likely because it takes tremendous energy and time in order to create it? He did say that his orb has been soaking in power while he was sleeping and he was sleeping through entire millenias.

 

Dorian mentions there are similar artifacts in Tevinter though. And it's hinted that the next game will take place in Tevinter. Maybe something else can be used to shield people/diminish the damage?

[midnight tea]

Dorian mentions there are similar artifacts in Tevinter though. And it's hinted that the next game will take place in Tevinter. Maybe something else can be used to shield people/diminish the damage?

 

Just because there are similar artifacts doesn't mean that they can be useful for Solas - there are orbs lying about in Vir Dirthara in Trespasser as well (used as bowling balls to knock little statues of Mythal and Fen'Harel, probably bored trapped ancient elves' last entertainment ), but Solas appears to be entirely uninterested with them, given that they were never picked up.

 

A question of whether Solas would like to gain access to Tevene orbs is intriguing, but we may have to take into account the possibility that those may not matter if they don't have power - or some sort specific spell? - stored in them. When Inquisitor asks Soals if his orb can be fixed at the end of DAI, he implies that it could be, but it won't restore what truly mattered, which was likely all the power that was accumulated inside of the orb. 

[Ellawynn]

 

Umm... it is implied that people around Inquisitor have survived thanks to the protective energy of the Anchor. It was the reason why Corypheus wanted it and why Solas initially created it. He'd have entered the Fade thanks to the Mark in a scenario where Cory died and he obtained the orb.

 

Yeah, but that's only for one person (The person who holds it), and I don't recall it ever being said the effect can be extended to multiple people. Even the theory that the anchor is called such because it "anchors" the Fade doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, given that there's very little difference between the Fade in Nightmare's realm in Inquisition and the Fade in Sloth's realm in Origins. They're both floaty rock mountains with other weird objects and locales sprinkled about. (I don't recall it being too different from the Fade we see in Awakening either, but it's been a few years since I played DAA, so I might just be forgetting something.) Although I admit I've always wondered at the name as well.

 

I guess the idea that it opens a safe passage anyone can get through makes sense. I don't recall that being confirmed either, but if others insist the evidence is there, I'm not really invested enough to go verify.

 

And Morrigan was entering the Crossroads via the working Eluvian she had at the end of Witch Hunt. Which quickly broke down, which is presumably why she had to get a new one.

[Addictress]

That, and he does seem to be under some sort of time constraint, as to his need to act now. While part of it may a desire to act as quickly as possible due to guilt, part of it might be for other reasons, which compelled him to need to act and take Mythal's power and begin the process of whatever he's doing.

This is my question too - why did Solas awake when he did? What deciding event or condition?? Aaahh!

[midnight tea]

Yeah, but that's only for one person (The person who holds it), and I don't recall it ever being said the effect can be extended to multiple people. Even the theory that the anchor is called such because it "anchors" the Fade doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, given that there's very little difference between the Fade in Nightmare's realm in Inquisition and the Fade in Sloth's realm in Origins. They're both floaty rock mountains with other weird objects and locales sprinkled about. (I don't recall it being too different from the Fade we see in Awakening either, but it's been a few years since I played DAA, so I might just be forgetting something.) Although I admit I've always wondered at the name as well.

 

I guess the idea that it opens a safe passage anyone can get through makes sense. I don't recall that being confirmed either, but if others insist the evidence is there, I'm not really invested enough to go verify.

 

 

The whole needle-thread comment from spirit!Justinia suggests protective effect of the Anchor extends beyond Inquisitor. And don't forget that even though we don't enter the Fade in Trespasser, our malfunctioning Anchor doesn't just affect Inky, but their companions become invulnerable for a few minutes as well.

 

Also um... we don't enter the Fade physically in Origins. But that's beside the point; llooking the same doesn't matter - what is supposed not to be affected is not the environment, but the people who entered it.

 

 

 

And Morrigan was entering the Crossroads via the working Eluvian she had at the end of Witch Hunt. Which quickly broke down, which is presumably why she had to get a new one.

 

But I'm not talking about entering Crossroads - her second eluvian, activated by Kieran (or, alternatively, Flemythal), opened directly to raw Fade.

[Uirebhiril]

I just hope that Solas isn't calling the elves to him in order to use them in blood magic rituals to get enough power to reshape the world. His orb is broken and he needs to get an immense amount of power somehow. I know he has never practiced blood magic because it would restrict his ability to enter the Fade, but he thinks he's going to die anyway...

 

I had that same ugly thought after Trespasser. Just the idea makes me cringe so hard, because damn. Can you get any more horrifying?

 

Assuming it's Solas that's gathering them, anyway. I can't recall if it was definitively stated that he's the one they're flocking to.

[Addictress]

I had that same ugly thought after Trespasser. Just the idea makes me cringe so hard, because damn. Can you get any more horrifying?

 

Assuming it's Solas that's gathering them, anyway. I can't recall if it was definitively stated that he's the one they're flocking to.

oh my god.... no.....

[midnight tea]

This is my question too - why did Solas awake when he did? What deciding event or condition?? Aaahh!

 

...Probably some celestial event? In DA2's Black Emporium there's a codex entry about the Emergent Compendium (http://dragonage.wik...gent_Compendium). One of its coded messages states:

Two shadowed spheres among stars subtitled "An eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred".

 

It may also be that he was reluctantly forced to wake up for some reasons - he admits that he awoke still weak, so perhaps there was something that made him rush his plans?

[Addictress]

...Probably some celestial event? In DA2's Black Emporium there's a codex entry about the Emergent Compendium (http://dragonage.wik...gent_Compendium). One of its coded messages states:

Two shadowed spheres among stars subtitled "An eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred".

 

It may also be that he was reluctantly forced to wake up for some reasons - he admits that he awoke still weak, so perhaps there was something that made him rush his plans?

Good find. Indeed, Fen'Harel would have been stirring around the time of the end of DA2!!

[ladyiolanthe]

*snip*

 

It may also be that he was reluctantly forced to wake up for some reasons - he admits that he awoke still weak, so perhaps there was something that made him rush his plans?

 

Like, perhaps, red lyrium starting to spread thanks to the Tethras expedition to the Deep Roads and crazy Meredith...?

[Ellawynn]

The whole needle-thread comment from spirit!Justinia suggests protective effect of the Anchor extends beyond Inquisitor. And don't forget that even though we don't enter the Fade in Trespasser, our malfunctioning Anchor doesn't just affect Inky, but their companions become invulnerable for a few minutes as well.

 

Also um... we don't enter the Fade physically in Origins. But that's beside the point; llooking the same doesn't matter - what is supposed not to be affected is not the environment, but the people who entered it.

 

 

 

But I'm not talking about entering Crossroads - her second eluvian, activated by Kieran (or, alternatively, Flemythal), opened directly to raw Fade.

 

Yeah, but that needle-thread comment just seems... really vague and... open-to-interpretations-y to me? "The thread" could mean any number of things, y'know? I know we don't enter the Fade physically in Origins, but that just makes me wonder at the lack of difference. And if it's called the anchor because it anchors the Fade, wouldn't that effect how it looks and acts?

 

As for going directly to the Fade, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was just Flemeth. Even if Kieran/The Old God soul knew how to make that work, he doesn't really seem to know how to harness the power he'd need to do it.

[CapricornSun]

Art break. 

 

"As You Wish, Child" - What if Solas was able to turn Mihris to stone on his personal quest?

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Source: http://noodlesforner...age-inquisition

 

 

"Friends With Side-Benefits" - Trespasser DLC: Lavellan wants to know in great detail how Solas laid with her.

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Source: http://noodlesforner...fits-dragon-age

 

 

Trespasser: Gorgeous artwork of Solas carrying Lavellan into the Eluvian. 

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Source: http://airagitt.tumb...ayersangel-last

 

 

Solas and Lavellan in a Final Fantasy X AU by kallielef. Based on the FFX AU fic by spirrum.

And the Solavellan painting is finally up on her tumblr (same post).

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Source: http://kallielef.tum...ng-and-painting

 

 

Chuchu's lovely Solavellan art using the awesome posable figure as reference! (I need one of those...)

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Source: http://lothlenan.tum...-of-those-super

 

 

Spirit!Pride and Mythal from Feynite's Spirit!AU.

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Source: http://corseque-art....or-a-great-many

 

 

Nice Solas sketch.

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Source: http://ironvhenan.tu...st/139581301483

 

[Trodaoiresaoirse]

I'm struggling a little bit, because my post don't show up.

 

Well, but maybe you wanna hear this missing dialogue from the last romance-scene - it's gooooosssshhh

http://corseque.tumb...st/130638522117

 

and I adore Gareth David Lloyd

[Trodaoiresaoirse]

OOOOOOHHHHHMYYYFEN'HAREL stunning!

 

 

Trespasser: Gorgeous artwork of Solas carrying Lavellan into the Eluvian. 

[spoiler]

Source: http://airagitt.tumb...ayersangel-last

 

 

 

 

[thaali]

I just hope that Solas isn't calling the elves to him in order to use them in blood magic rituals to get enough power to reshape the world. His orb is broken and he needs to get an immense amount of power somehow. I know he has never practiced blood magic because it would restrict his ability to enter the Fade, but he thinks he's going to die anyway... Elves seem to be favoured blood magic sacrifices in Tevinter and there are a few lore bits that suggest they have more magic in their blood than the other races. So. Yeah. I hope that isn't what he is referring to when he says he is walking the Din'an Shiral and when he says he doesn't want a romanced Lavellan to see what he will become.  

 

 

This is highly doubtful.  If you play a mage and talk to him about blood magic you have the option of saying you would be interested in learning some of it to which Solas replies that he has no experience in that so would not be able to teach at all.  I believe there is also something about it working so different from the magic he uses.

 

Solas is a liar by omission but never lies directly so him using blood magic is unlikely.

[Sifr]

Very likely because it takes tremendous energy and time in order to create it? He did say that his orb has been soaking in power while he was sleeping and he was sleeping through entire millenias.

 

I'd wager this is the reason why Solas, nor Corypheus, couldn't recreate another Anchor for themselves. The ritual that makes the Anchor probably takes years for a mage to prepare and perform (Corypheus implies he was working on it for years) and it can't work without the millennia of accumulated energy from the Orb to provide power. Unless they were willing to wait another couple hundred years to do it again, it was a one shot deal that we "spoiled due to our stumbling".

[ladyiolanthe]

This is highly doubtful. If you play a mage and talk to him about blood magic you have the option of saying you would be interested in learning some of it to which Solas replies that he has no experience in that so would not be able to teach at all. I believe there is also something about it working so different from the magic he uses.

Solas is a liar by omission but never lies directly so him using blood magic is unlikely.

He has the same conversation with elven rogues and warriors, and I did reference it in that post you quoted, when I wrote that he hasn't used it because it makes it harder for him to travel to the Fade. That is the effect he tells us it would have on his magic. You are right that he says he never learned it, but that does not mean he couldn't learn it if he saw it as the tool he needs to accomplish his goals.

Edited to add: Incidentally, in the same conversation, he expresses the thought that it is a shame he never learned blood magic, as it is very powerful. He also has no compunction about using it, provided it remains a tool, not a crutch nor a passion.

Edited again to add: Ugh... There is a space of two or so years between Solas leaving after Corypheus is defeated and the many elves wandering off to somewhere at the end of Trespasser. Plenty of time for a mage as intelligent as Solas to learn blood magic if he wanted, and could find a teacher.

Morrigan was a blood mage already in DAO, and we made it possible for Solas to meet her. They don't seem to get along, though. So I doubt he'd be willing to learn from her. However, Morrigan had to learn her blood magic from someone. That someone had to have been Flemeth. And Solas has Flemythal.

[Sifr]

I really wonder what happens to Human!Cole in DA4? Besides being on the road with Maryden, I mean. I doubt he forgets about the whole Solas thing.

 

EDIT: Though as a human, he probably wouldn't be able to talk some sense into Solas but still, I'd like to see what Human!Cole would do, assuming he'll make an appearance or is mentioned in DA4, that is.

 

I'd like to think that Human!Cole might provide a means to show Solas that modern Thedas and it's people do matter, as well as being worth saving even if that means Elvhenan must remain in the past. Change is sometimes necessary and that it shouldn't be feared or fought against. Perhaps he could even do it in a Rocky IV style speech?

 

"If a Spirit can change and the Elvhen can change... then everybody can change!"

 

[Cee]

I watched a nature documentary last night and there was a segment about animals preparing for hibernation, going out and stuffing themselves with as much food as they can during the warm months, getting really fat to prepare them for months of inactivity, dropping their temperatures and heart rates and stop urinating to not lose fluid. I kept thinking about Solas and preparation for uthenera and the whole thing made me laugh.

 

If I could draw, I'd draw this.

[NightSymphony]

I can see fat Solas, lying in a sea of cupcake wrappers. His legs are crossed because he really has to pee and his eyes are wide open because he can't fall asleep.  I wish I could draw this.

[Cee]

Yes, frilly cakes have survival benefits!

[Ellawynn]

He has the same conversation with elven rogues and warriors, and I did reference it in that post you quoted, when I wrote that he hasn't used it because it makes it harder for him to travel to the Fade. That is the effect he tells us it would have on his magic. You are right that he says he never learned it, but that does not mean he couldn't learn it if he saw it as the tool he needs to accomplish his goals.

Edited to add: Incidentally, in the same conversation, he expresses the thought that it is a shame he never learned blood magic, as it is very powerful. He also has no compunction about using it, provided it remains a tool, not a crutch nor a passion.

Edited again to add: Ugh... There is a space of two or so years between Solas leaving after Corypheus is defeated and the many elves wandering off to somewhere at the end of Trespasser. Plenty of time for a mage as intelligent as Solas to learn blood magic if he wanted, and could find a teacher.

Morrigan was a blood mage already in DAO, and we made it possible for Solas to meet her. They don't seem to get along, though. So I doubt he'd be willing to learn from her. However, Morrigan had to learn her blood magic from someone. That someone had to have been Flemeth. And Solas has Flemythal.

 

It's not impossible. Can't lie there, it's really not impossible that's what he plans to do. Really, I wouldn't even be surprised if that's where they take it. And it does seem well-foreshadowed, given how the Magisters entered the Fade in the exact same way.

 

But, we know there are other ways to do it. Mythal didn't slaughter thousands of elves when she opened the Eluvian to the Fade. And as you pointed out, Solas has Mythal now. 

[ladyiolanthe]

It's not impossible. Can't lie there, it's really not impossible that's what he plans to do. Really, I wouldn't even be surprised if that's where they take it. And it does seem well-foreshadowed, given how the Magisters entered the Fade in the exact same way.
 
But, we know there are other ways to do it. Mythal didn't slaughter thousands of elves when she opened the Eluvian to the Fade. And as you pointed out, Solas has Mythal now.

Yes, I really hope that he has a better idea in mind than sacrificing a lot of elves. That would certainly break my Lavellan's heart. But I feel that it's a definite possibility, like you.

Here's hoping, though...

[CapricornSun]

Art post.

 

Lavellan making use of a Valentine's gift. (Set after Solas broke up with her?)

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Source: http://theresa-draws...tines-gift-from

 

 

Modern AU Solavellan date.

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Source: http://solavellangar...yed-that-record

 

 

Lavellan feeding Solas grapes. 

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Source: http://bluekrishna10...as-super-boring

 

 

Fen'Harel.

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Source: http://anorddidit.tu...ng-version-oops

 

 

Lovely portraits of Cullen, Dorian, Solas, and Varric.

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Source: http://elenpilgrim.t...st/139615483640