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[CapricornSun]

I'm back!  Art post.

 

Beautiful color studies of Solas by kallielef.

Spoiler

Source: http://kallielef.tum...-tatakikick-for

 

 

Nipuni did an armor tutorial and drew this lovely artwork of Solas at the end.

Spoiler

Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...r-pleeaassdee-i

 

 

"Don't leave me, not now." Lavellan left at Crestwood and holding on to Solas' necklace after the breakup by nipuni.

Spoiler

Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...eave-me-not-now

 

 

Beautiful art of Solas and Lavellan under the moonlight by needapotion,

Spoiler

Source: http://needapotion.t...go-my-world-was

 

 

Gorgeous steampunk AU of Solas and Lavellan dancing.

Spoiler

Source: http://ladytheirinsb...hout-music-what

 

 

Solas and Lavellan sleeping. 

Spoiler

Source: http://just-dread-wo...sweet-avi-of-my

 

 

We can still dream, right? Gorgeous art of Solas and Lavellan kissing.

Spoiler

Source: http://onehundred-fa...ill-dream-right

 

 

Angry Solas with Lavellan in the background from All New Faded For Her.

Spoiler

Source: http://onehundred-fa...is-was-supposed

 

 

Taking care of your drunk vhenan. (Solavellan)

Spoiler

Source: http://solavellangar...runk-vhenan-101

 

 

Dragon Age Drinkquisition. (Solavellan)

Spoiler

Source: http://solavellangar...-drinkquisition

 

 

Solas and Lavellan.

Spoiler

Source: http://blog.barizsid...this-but-anyway

 

 

Blushing Solas.

Spoiler

Source: http://destinyaposta...g-solas-it-will

 

 

Sketch of sleeping Solas.

Spoiler

Source: https://rosenrotxiii...st/141620817134

 

 

Solas, Lavellan, and Dorian at the Winter Palace.

Spoiler

Source: http://annaxiin.tumb...st/141645398755

 

[Brass_Buckles]

So a couple of nights ago I was thinking about how Solas was so much against Cole becoming human.

 

I wonder if his motivations might go beyond the obvious (that he prefers spirits).

 

For starters, we know that Solas is not too pleased with the state of the people of the Thedas he has awakened to.  Cole would, by necessity, become a human of that sort, rather than an elf still connected to the Fade in the same way as before--or at least, this is what Solas assumes.  In essence, Solas might be worried that Cole is giving up his actual personhood for this mere shadow of life that exists now that the Veil is in place.

 

And then, Cole is not just any spirit.  He's not something common, he's Compassion--which is evidently rare.  I have my own theories (and they have some foundation in what we've seen actually happen) that spirits don't just reflect what's around them, they also help build the emotion/idea that they represent.  So, if a spirit of compassion is lost, then Cole can no longer encourage people to be compassionate, making compassion rarer still.

 

Then there's another possibility, and it's something I think not many people have considered.  In ancient times, spirits could take flesh, but it likely took a long time for them to come to that point--centuries, even, as their individuality began to manifest and they began to work through their issues rather than forget their problems to avoid corruption.  They understood the waking world better, too, because they weren't separate from it.  Thus, they were better prepared to face it without quite as much risk to themselves.  While I don't know what negative effects Solas may be anticipating for Cole, it stands to reason that one of the reasons he's against Cole becoming human is that he simply doesn't think Cole is ready to join the waking world.  He doesn't understand it well--he's only had a few short years to try.  Although his body is maybe 20 years old in appearance, his mind is still effectively a young child's, and if he becomes flesh and blood, he'll be flung into it as the adult he appears to be rather than the child he actually is.

 

Now mind you, that's only my take on it.  But I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts on the matter, particularly on my third point about Solas just not thinking Cole is properly prepared.

[NightSymphony]

Welcome back, Sunny!!  *pounce and hug*

 

[myahele]

Well assuming that the Blight is the same as what happened to Andruil er al. Then there are alternative methods to just slaying the Old Gods: Either via the OGS method or whatever Mythal did to slowly sap/absorbe the  corruption that was in Andruil.

 

Either way, Mythals (Flemeths) seems one solution

[RogueBait]

I'm back!  Art post.

 

Beautiful color studies of Solas by kallielef.

Spoiler

Source: http://kallielef.tum...-tatakikick-for

 

 

Nipuni did an armor tutorial and drew this lovely artwork of Solas at the end.

Spoiler

Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...r-pleeaassdee-i

 

 

"Don't leave me, not now." Lavellan left at Crestwood and holding on to Solas' neckalce after the breakup by nipuni.

Spoiler

Source: http://nipuni.tumblr...eave-me-not-now

 

 

Beautiful art of Solas and Lavellan under the moonlight by needapotion,

Spoiler

Source: http://needapotion.t...go-my-world-was

 

 

Gorgeous steampunk AU of Solas and Lavellan dancing.

Spoiler

Source: http://ladytheirinsb...hout-music-what

 

 

Solas and Lavellan sleeping. 

Spoiler

Source: http://just-dread-wo...sweet-avi-of-my

 

 

We can still dream, right? Gorgeous art of Solas and Lavellan kissing.

Spoiler

Source: http://onehundred-fa...ill-dream-right

 

 

Angry Solas with Lavellan in the background from All New Faded For Her.

Spoiler

Source: http://onehundred-fa...is-was-supposed

 

 

Taking care of your drunk vhenan. (Solavellan)

Spoiler

Source: http://solavellangar...runk-vhenan-101

 

 

Dragon Age Drinkquisition. (Solavellan)

Spoiler

Source: http://solavellangar...-drinkquisition

 

 

Solas and Lavellan.

Spoiler

Source: http://blog.barizsid...this-but-anyway

 

 

Blushing Solas.

Spoiler

Source: http://destinyaposta...g-solas-it-will

 

 

Sketch of sleeping Solas.

Spoiler

Source: https://rosenrotxiii...st/141620817134

 

 

Solas, Lavellan, and Dorian at the Winter Palace.

Spoiler

Source: http://annaxiin.tumb...st/141645398755

 

 

Welcome back!   Hope you had a nice trip!

I've missed your art posts.

[CapricornSun]

Welcome back, Sunny!!  *pounce and hug*

 

 

Welcome back!   Hope you had a nice trip!

I've missed your art posts.

 

Thanks NS and Rogue!

 

Yes I had a very enjoyable trip! It's kind of weird to be back tbh.

 

 

And don't worry, there's a lot more art to be shared. Help. ; v ;

[Caritas_Lavellan]

So, if a spirit of compassion is lost, then Cole can no longer encourage people to be compassionate, making compassion rarer still.
 
Then there's another possibility, and it's something I think not many people have considered.  In ancient times, spirits could take flesh, but it likely took a long time for them to come to that point--centuries, even, as their individuality began to manifest and they began to work through their issues rather than forget their problems to avoid corruption. 

Now mind you, that's only my take on it.  But I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts on the matter, particularly on my third point about Solas just not thinking Cole is properly prepared.

Yes, those are interesting points, and I generally agree. If I remember correctly, there's a bit in the Shattered Library where spirit!Cole is happy because he realises he's "not a wrong thing. I'm what I'm meant to be!", while human!Cole realises that he wouldn't have seen that part of the world as wrong before. I've played two Lavellans romancing Solas, one taking each path, because I think the decision around Cole's fate is very finely balanced.

I like the conversation between human!Cole and Cassandra about killing not solving everything, and Cole realising that his murder of Seeker Lambert was wrong.

Solas probably does think that Cole isn't ready for further development, but... "This side is slow and heavy, but here is what can change."

[CapricornSun]

Art post. A long art post, mind you.

 

Modern AU Solavellan from the modern au fic, Cellovellan. (Aaah, I really should read this fic!)

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Source: http://theresa-draws...riting-anything

 

 

Close up:

 

 

"It's an us thing." Fanart from the modern AU fic Meet the Family (and my current favorite

modern AU Solavellan fic), also by the same writer of Cellovellan.

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Source: http://slayersangel....y-anachromystic

 

 

Gorgeous chalk on black background art of Solavellan.

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Source: http://unhealthynpco...-chalk-on-black

 

 

Solavellan artwork in which the anchor reacts to Solas pretty often, since it's his magic after all.

Spoiler

Source: http://destinyaposta...as-pretty-often

 

 

Lavellan hugging a crying Solas; colored version.

Spoiler

Source: http://fulltimeloser...69796/it-colour

 

 

Post-Trespasser Solas and Lavellan.

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Source: http://elyhumanoid.t...y-at-a-tiiime-d

 

 

Solas and Lavellan kissing at the rotunda.

Spoiler

Source: http://thefluffynug....giveaway-winner

 

 

Sketches of Solas and Lavellan.

Spoiler

Source: http://kireieleison....haven-fade-kiss

 

 

Solas and Lavellan dancing at Halamshiral.

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Source: http://athousanddayy...e-cheap-thrills

 

 

Cute Solavellan doodle.

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Source: http://thesnowmage.t...g-in-the-fields

 

 

Too much wolves. Lavellan and concept!Solas.

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Source: http://blairlavolpe....too-much-wolves

 

 

Grumpy modern AU Solas.

(Modern AU Solas wearing glasses, a sweater, and a coat? Now THAT is the modern AU Solas I go crazy for.  )

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Source: http://theresa-draws...umpy-solas-in-a

 

 

Gorgeous Trespasser Solas by umabbas.

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Source: http://umabbas.tumbl...i-wish-it-could

 

 

Trespasser Solas.

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Source: http://fenrirsruthle...-and-fatalistic

 

 

Another Trespasser Solas artwork.

Spoiler

Source: http://artdiary.tumb...st/141648854259

 

 

A sinister-looking version of Solas' Hermit tarot card.

Spoiler

Source: http://shingeki-no-w...-of-solas-tarot

 

 

Crying Solas. (Awww!)

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Source: http://sarkyfancypan...206503/solas-e3

 

 

Solas sketch.

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Source: http://twinklytony.t...am-back-in-hell

 

 

Solas.

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Source: http://birullik.tumb...st/141662925612

 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

So a couple of nights ago I was thinking about how Solas was so much against Cole becoming human.

 

I wonder if his motivations might go beyond the obvious (that he prefers spirits).

 

For starters, we know that Solas is not too pleased with the state of the people of the Thedas he has awakened to.  Cole would, by necessity, become a human of that sort, rather than an elf still connected to the Fade in the same way as before--or at least, this is what Solas assumes.  In essence, Solas might be worried that Cole is giving up his actual personhood for this mere shadow of life that exists now that the Veil is in place.

 

And then, Cole is not just any spirit.  He's not something common, he's Compassion--which is evidently rare.  I have my own theories (and they have some foundation in what we've seen actually happen) that spirits don't just reflect what's around them, they also help build the emotion/idea that they represent.  So, if a spirit of compassion is lost, then Cole can no longer encourage people to be compassionate, making compassion rarer still.

 

Then there's another possibility, and it's something I think not many people have considered.  In ancient times, spirits could take flesh, but it likely took a long time for them to come to that point--centuries, even, as their individuality began to manifest and they began to work through their issues rather than forget their problems to avoid corruption.  They understood the waking world better, too, because they weren't separate from it.  Thus, they were better prepared to face it without quite as much risk to themselves.  While I don't know what negative effects Solas may be anticipating for Cole, it stands to reason that one of the reasons he's against Cole becoming human is that he simply doesn't think Cole is ready to join the waking world.  He doesn't understand it well--he's only had a few short years to try.  Although his body is maybe 20 years old in appearance, his mind is still effectively a young child's, and if he becomes flesh and blood, he'll be flung into it as the adult he appears to be rather than the child he actually is.

 

Now mind you, that's only my take on it.  But I'd be interested to hear others' thoughts on the matter, particularly on my third point about Solas just not thinking Cole is properly prepared.

 

I always make Cole a Spirit because...well, no offense Varric, but you are not the expert when it comes to the Fade and Spirits.

 

[CapricornSun]

Mini art post.

 

Happy Easter from Solas. (NSFW-ish because... he's in a sexy bunny outfit?)

Spoiler

Source: http://alexielapril....ur-favorite-egg

 

 

Fen'Harel in the light of the Breach.

Spoiler

Source: http://unhealthynpco...he-breach-i-had

 

 

Concept!Solas.

Spoiler

Source: http://kay-jo-mackie...ng-solas-shrugs

 

[In Exile]

That's one theory.

They could also, in theory, gain sentience with no song calling them to the old gods anymore. That's basically the scenario the Architect simulated, right? Then they might split into factions and some of them might decide to say "screw the surface, we're staying here" and inhabit an old titan corpse or something.

Could be either/or, imo. And neither scenario is ideal. But it doesn't necessarily mean there will be an endless Blight.

The gain sentience scenario IS an endless blight. A blight is just a massing of darkspawn on the surface. Blight ends because darkspawn flee when the AD controlling them dies. A darkspawn society will share no such weakness. Apart from their need for raids to to perpetuate their existence as rape abominations, we will have different political views as well. Don't want to derail the Solas thread, but there are lots of reasons to fear free and unshaved darkspawn more than shackled ones.

[In Exile]

I always make Cole a Spirit because...well, no offense Varric, but you are not the expert when it comes to the Fade and Spirits.

It's thematic. Solas and Varric argue about accepting the past. Cole is an extension of that argument. Solas can't let his old world go - he sees the current one as wrong. Varric thinks the only thing we can do is move forward.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

It's thematic. Solas and Varric argue about accepting the past. Cole is an extension of that argument. Solas can't let his old world go - he sees the current one as wrong. Varric thinks the only thing we can do is move forward.

 

Yes I know. However, if you put yourself in your character's shoes...You would see that Solas is the expert on Fade and Spirits, not Varric..Besides, if you put yourself in your character's shoes, Solas is just an apostate hobo, not the Dread Wolf...

[In Exile]

Yes I know. However, if you put yourself in your character's shoes...You would see that Solas is the expert on Fade and Spirits, not Varric..Besides, if you put yourself in your character's shoes, Solas is just an apostate hobo, not the Dread Wolf...

 

From a characters' perspective, I think the question of whether or not Cole should be a spirit is totally separate from knowledge. Solas doesn't object to it for technical reasons (e.g. this is impossible, or Cole will turn into a nug). He objects to it for moral reasons - Cole should stay a spirit.

[Brass_Buckles]

It's thematic. Solas and Varric argue about accepting the past. Cole is an extension of that argument. Solas can't let his old world go - he sees the current one as wrong. Varric thinks the only thing we can do is move forward.

 

Interesting you should point that out, because it is only as a spirit that Cole himself is able to "let things go."  The developers said he didn't REALLY forget things, he just "let them go," and stopped dwelling on them.

 

As a human, Varric tells Cole that it's okay to still hate, and it's okay not to forgive, but he effectively doesn't have to let it control him.

 

In essence, if you look at it in that light, Solas is far from being a spirit, or he'd be able to "forget" what is causing him pain, let it go, and move forward with his life.  But he can't, because he's not able to forgive himself--he's too "human," as it were.  The same could even be said of his attitude toward the Evanuris.  He could also let go of his hatred of them, but instead he is quite pleased with himself for sending them into some form of eternal torment--it's unclear where they are or what that torment is.

 

Alternatively you could infer that Solas is corrupt--which may also be close to the truth, considering his own concerns about being monstrous.  He knows his plans are monstrous; he knows he is becoming a monster.  And yet he is terrified that the Inquisitor (if friend or romance) might see him that way...

 

But whatever the case, we've seen Solas's self-portrait.  Some part of him is that gigantic pride demon wolf.  And Solas knows it.

[In Exile]

That's an insightful point. It's why I really like the contrast between the romanced Solas tarot card and the Dread Wolf card (as "Solas" is slipping away into his fearsome shadow). 

[Qun00]

I still don't understand why Felassan had vallaslin. I thought that getting rid of it was the first rule of the Dread Wolf's club. That is, aside from never talking about the Dread Wolf club.

[NightSymphony]

http://macabreromans...g-Day-599264559

[myahele]

I still don't understand why Felassan had vallaslin. I thought that getting rid of it was the first rule of the Dread Wolf's club. That is, aside from never talking about the Dread Wolf club.

 

Maybe he needed a Vallaslin to pretty much "pass" as a Dalish Elf (not that would have mattered much) since it'll would atleast explain his ... uniqueness? Like a "fake" Vallaslin? 

 

Or maybe Solas would have removed it on the condition he succeed his mission?

[Elessara]

I don't think Solas would have forced the issue.  If Felassan had wanted to keep the vallaslin, Solas probably would have let him much the same way he didn't force the issue with a romanced Inquisitor.  Also wasn't there something odd about Felassan's vallaslin?  I don't remember.

[ladyiolanthe]

I don't think Solas would have forced the issue.  If Felassan had wanted to keep the vallaslin, Solas probably would have let him much the same way he didn't force the issue with a romanced Inquisitor.  Also wasn't there something odd about Felassan's vallaslin?  I don't remember.

 

I just re-read The Masked Empire last week; there's nothing mentioned as being odd about his vallaslin in the book. The reason I see most people give when they express the idea that there is something odd about his vallaslin is a single line on page 200 that reads "In the firelight, the tattoos on his face seemed to twist and move of their own accord." I am, however, not convinced that it is actually meant to convey an oddness about his vallaslin so much as it's being descriptive of the flickering firelight in which we are viewing Felassan.  *shrug*

[Elessara]

I just re-read The Masked Empire last week; there's nothing mentioned as being odd about his vallaslin in the book. The reason I see most people give when they express the idea that there is something odd about his vallaslin is a single line on page 200 that reads "In the firelight, the tattoos on his face seemed to twist and move of their own accord." I am, however, not convinced that it is actually meant to convey an oddness about his vallaslin so much as it's being descriptive of the flickering firelight in which we are viewing Felassan.  *shrug*

 

No, that was it.  I just couldn't remember what had me thinking there might be something off about his vallaslin.  Thanks!

[TheyCallMeBunny]

I just re-read The Masked Empire last week; there's nothing mentioned as being odd about his vallaslin in the book. The reason I see most people give when they express the idea that there is something odd about his vallaslin is a single line on page 200 that reads "In the firelight, the tattoos on his face seemed to twist and move of their own accord." I am, however, not convinced that it is actually meant to convey an oddness about his vallaslin so much as it's being descriptive of the flickering firelight in which we are viewing Felassan.  *shrug*

 

I always did wonder if the vallaslin Felassan was wearing was that of Sylaise - it does twist and turn a lot. Also, I recall Weekes saying pre-DAI that questions about the vallaslin was spoilerish... I wonder whether the spoiler would be who's vallaslin he was wearing or if it was fake?

 

 

Edit* Top page again? This is becoming a bit of a habit...

 

 

http://p-joart.devia...-Wolf-502975101

[midnight tea]

I always did wonder if the vallaslin Felassan was wearing was that of Sylaise - it does twist and turn a lot. Also, I recall Weekes saying pre-DAI that questions about the vallaslin was spoilerish... I wonder whether the spoiler would be who's vallaslin he was wearing or if it was fake?

 

 

 

Some people asked about Felassan's look some time after Trespasser and Weekes responded that Felassan would look ancient-elfy like Solas or Abelas and his vallaslin would be "probably Mythal's".

 

https://twitter.com/...330716486004736

[In Exile]

That it was Mythal is important - it tells us more about the ties between her and Solas and adds to the theory that Solas was sort of her guard dog.