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[Hipster7]

It used to be you'd save the princess and beat the bad guy at the end of a good game.  These days the main character dies and the good game tends to become meh.  Its not just the end of the ME series, it happens in Fallout too.  Why the change from winning to phyrric victories?

[Inquisitor Recon]

Well they fixed the lousy original Fallout 3 ending.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Because we realized getting away from that cliched junk is a good idea. Give me Red Dead over Mario any day.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Well they fixed the lousy original Fallout 3 ending.

Even though Ron Pearlman calls you a coward for sending Fawkes in there like a smart person.

Why Pearlman-Senpai Why!?

[Gravisanimi]

Because it would be boring if that's what every story was about.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Don't you like a little variety in your endings? Besides, the general consensus around here is that cliches are bad, m'kay?

[Cribbian]

Dat artistic integrity

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ron Pearlman just hates everybody for not having a voice like his.

[meganbytez]

 i personally think cuz girls don't need saving and good/bad is too black and white, its more complicated even if there is a bad guy or girl.  makes more for more interesting plots and characters. having the hero die in the end might be more realistic, heroic? get to be the martyr? but having them live would be nice i agree. 

[TheChris92]

I'd like more Shadow of the Colossi's & Silent Hill 2's then I want another Mario saving the Princess from the same guy for about the 50th time that day.

[Deebo305]

Mario and Zelda still do this, but nowadays doing it would be offputting because someone gonna ask why can't she save him or save herself

Not many people like Damsels in distress these days, main reason why Once Upon A Time has a strong female lead and in some drunk stuper some exec approved of Snow White & The Huntsmen

[In Exile]

Because we realized getting away from that cliched junk is a good idea. Give me Red Dead over Mario any day.

 

Except that when every game wants to be a grimdark depressing game with an emo heart crushing ending, it becomes just as aggravating. It all makes me think of hte honest trailer on Man of Steel:

 

[TheBlackBaron]

Saving the girl was deemed sexist. 

[TheChris92]

Except that when every game wants to be a grimdark depressing game with an emo heart crushing ending, it becomes just as aggravating. It all makes me think of hte honest trailer on Man of Steel:

You could easily turn that argument against the traditional Mario set-up as well. I'm actually a bit surprised that people are asking about what was written in the OP --  It's implying that you can only have one or the other. Let's pretend it was the other way around then you'll have people asking for the opposite. It's not like there aren't narratives with somewhat upbeat and cheerful conclusions out there. The idea is to create a great story and compelling plot, regardless of tone, and try to distance yourself from the clichés. We don't live in the 18th romantic century anymore, where fairytales of happily ever-afters was the norm, the Modern Breakhtrough of the 19th century of how people perceived religion and the world itself saw to that, but it's not like they don't exist.

[TheChris92]

The 19th century also gave me Alice in Wonderland. She saved the world ("a world" at least), and then got to go home and just be a normal person again.

I edited that out -- It was the 18th century I was thinking of.

 

Also, Alice in Wonderland wasn't exactly an all goody fairytale, it was a book with some pretty scaring dark undertones. It adds to what I was trying to point out.

[Cyonan]

Any cliche when used an absurdly large amount gets tiresome regardless of what it is.

 

Although I still have to say that recently I've probably played more games where the protagonist doesn't die at the end as opposed to ones where they do die.

[Melee or Die]

Saving the girl was deemed sexist.

I concur, to an extent. If I were a woman, I'd be tired as hell of that s__t! Especially in games. It's great that nowadays there's lots of variety in the stories told, and the characters who lead them. And like some have said: the same s__t over & over gets boring. We're gamers; we ain't about boring!

As for whay happened to good guy: I wouldn't know. I was too busy bein' the bad guy who kidnapped the good guy's girl, and she decided to stay 'cause I was cooler. But I was too edgy for that and ish and left her a_s, too. 'Ey, the world needs an antagonist, and I got no problem bein' the final boss.

[TheChris92]

I wasn't saying it was a fairy tale. It's just a good story from the 19th century that didn't go grimdark on me. Especially when it came to Alice herself. She didn't suffer any damage from her adventures.

Alice in Wonderland was always disturbing - That's not something American McGee brought about, suddenly

[mybudgee]

Gloria Steinem

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

'Treasure Island', 'Gulliver's Travels' and 'Robinson Crusoe' are the best novels ever.