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[Nonoru]

I'm getting both games since I like both franchises, simple as that.

 

Couldn't care less about which has the best visuals between the two. I'm all for more developers making great games, because there's nothing better than finding myself wondering which games I should get the next months among a large selection available. We don't need to alienate another fanbase because of shallow reasons such as non-existent rivalry between studios.

 

I genuinely don't really understand why people are so focused on graphics these days. Been a RPG player since the NES era (Secret of Evermore, anyone?) so my tolerance level is pretty large in that domain. For me, content is where it's at. Sure, a nice package is always welcome but, if it's all a game has to offer, I would rather get this ugly stuffed box ready to burst with awesomeness. 

 

In the end, as long as you have fun, a game's reaching its purpose. All that matters.

[Joseph Warrick]

How come an small, obscure company from eastern europe repeatedly makes games that are bigger and prettier than videogame giant EA?

 

Surely they don't have more money.

[Chris]

Chapter 3 is horrible either way you choose at the end of chapter 1 and what it boils down to is playing the Witcher 2 twice.

Horrible ? for you maybe but it don't have to be for other people but personally i think it's just not as good as chapter 1 and 2 and most of that comes from that it's much shorter than those chapters but i have to say several of my fav moments from W2 is from chapter 3, first i really liked the confrontation with the dragon and the fight was really well designed which i found welcoming also i enjoyed the last talk with Letho where you make your final choice.

shame though it wasn't longer and more to do because than yeah ofc it would have been better.

[Maraas]

From a technical standpoint, TW3 might have the upper hand (or, rather, should have). Though the difference is often negligible, I think, and grass in both games looks pretty much the same in terms of visual fidelity.

Overall aesthetics is what differentiates these two games the most. TW3 strives for more grounded, photo-realistic look, as always, but it also makes it feel, well, a bit dull. Its landscapes are sweeping and pretty, but pretty ordinary as well. DAI looks more daring and unusual—like an expressive painting rather than a photo.

 

These differences in visual style are much more evident and important than that in visual fidelity. Because even with things being equal some of us prefer "realistic" look, and others take interesting over realistic. And others still can appreciate both. Hopefully. ))

[SolNebula]

I really like TW and the company behind it because it's one of the best example on how you can produce games and make money without being greedy bastards. I really also like how their games are catered to a mature audience.

 

HOWEVER

 

TW games are generally more linear in terms of quests and choice in comparison to what BW is doing. TW2 while offering some choice is not even close to what Dragon Age Origins was. Let's be honest TW2 in two complete gameplays you saw pretty much everything you need to see while on Dragon Age Origins you had plenty of alternatives and different endings. Should I also mention the fact that BW games are party based RPGs where companions play an important choice? In TW It's all about Gerald.

 

I'm not bashing on TW because I really like it but it's basically a different game in what is trying to achieve. It's like comparing Oranges and Mandarin Oranges.....they seem similar but in reality are two different fruits and so are these two games

[Schreckstoff]

Horrible ? for you maybe but it don't have to be for other people but personally i think it's just not as good as chapter 1 and 2 and most of that comes from that it's much shorter than those chapters but i have to say several of my fav moments from W2 is from chapter 3, first i really liked the confrontation with the dragon and the fight was really well designed which i found welcoming also i enjoyed the last talk with Letho where you make your final choice.
shame though it wasn't longer and more to do because than yeah ofc it would have been better.

Chapter 3 was short and had boring environments.
The fight with the Dragon was a disgrace honestly it was just shield (quen), slash, shield, slash, QTE After the fight with Letho in chapter 1 which was insane as he literally could do anything you could but better, the fight with the Dragon was one of the least fun and challenging I've played in forever.

Maybe I'm judging Chapter 3 harshly because the rest of the game was rather great.

The talk with Letho was in the epilogue not Chapter 3 and It was really funny you could avoid fighting him as after the horrible defeat I tasted at his hands in Chapter 1 over and over again I never wanted to cross blades with him again.

Also I'll get Witcher 3 on consoles as my Surface Pro 2 would probably explode trying to play it (Intel HD 4400 lol) but they didn't say anything on savegame import/creation yet.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Part of the challenge is overcoming the immense shortcomings of the DAO engine.  I don't mind an updated look at the Redcliffe castle (I'm not someone that notices the throne room being the same in The Witcher either) or other areas we've visited, because frankly the DAO engine is antiquated and levels had to be created much more in mind of "The level size can't be too big or else."
 

 

 

I made a thread about the Redcliffe changes recently.

 

I seems strange to me that the castle isn't even in the same spot. I totally understand the reasons for a total redesign of the area for the new engine, but couldn't the landscape still be similar in layout? In DAO facing the beach, the castle is on a  cliff to the left, high up above the town, where now it appears to be on the right and at water level, just beside the lake.

 

If it is supposed to be a rebuilt castle (in 10 years but lets hand wave that) are the ruins of the old castle in the game on the cliff to the left still? Or is it a total re-imagining of the area (as I suspect)? I suspect the design of DAI Redcliffe has more to do with facilitating DAI gameplay that trying to show a ten year change to an existing DAO town.

 

I ask because I'm fond of the occasional bit of nostalgia. I'd have liked to see Lothering, in DA2 but instead we got a barren  wasteland. It seems like the Bioware artists prefer to totally redesign areas from previous games rather than trying to keep a consistent layout between games (The ME23 Citadel case in point).

 

Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing Orzimmar (if it is in game) but I'd imagine the layout will be completely different to suit the new game.

[Rawgrim]

The Witcher 3 looks the best. Da:I looks great too. Graphics arn`t that important to me, though. 2014 and 2015 seems to be very good years for people who like rpgs. Good times.

[Kinthalis ThornBlade]

The Witcher 3 looks the best. Da:I looks great too. Graphics arn`t that important to me, though. 2014 and 2015 seems to be very good years for people who like rpgs. Good times.

 

And not just because of these two games. PC is fielding some amazing RPGs 2014 and 2015 too.

[Rawgrim]

And not just because of these two games. PC is fielding some amazing RPGs 2014 and 2015 too.

 

Quite right. Wasteland 2 is coming out too. Pillar's of Eternity (my top game for the year), the Planescape: Torment sequel, and Shroud of the Avatar (the new game from Richard Garriott).

 

Did I forget any?

[xyzmkrysvr]

I care more about the story than graphics, to be honest. The Witcher 2 was enjoyable but it didn't allow much opportunities for role play (no CC, VERY limited dialogue choices, pathetic companion interactions, etc). The only thing I liked more about the Witcher 2 was the more mature depiction of relationships. Not gonna lie, I got a kick out of going to the brothel... I wish DA:I realized that sex isn't something to be ashamed of. The fade to black crap is absurd. If kids are exposed to non-stop violence but aren't even allowed to see two people experiencing something beautiful, then what are we teaching them?? 

[Blooddrunk1004]

Chapter 3 was short and had boring environments.
The fight with the Dragon was a disgrace honestly it was just shield (quen), slash, shield, slash, QTE After the fight with Letho in chapter 1 which was insane as he literally could do anything you could but better, the fight with the Dragon was one of the least fun and challenging I've played in forever.
 

It depends on the difficulty, the dragon is nightmare on anything beyond easy/normal. First fight with Letho your gear and most of your abilites are not as powerful and upgraded as are in in the epilogue. Not to mention the fact that the place where you fight Letho first time is very small, you can barely dodge his grenades and spells, while in final fight you are in the huge open area.

 

As for chapter 3 i agree about being short, but it made up with many awesome moments like:

- confrontation with Letho

- fight with Dragon

- meeting Sigfried, Radovid, Cynthia...

- Geralt storming the Nilfgaard camp

- Roche taking revenge on Dethmold

- The Lodge and Nilfgaard plot twist

[BlackGrifon]

when it comes to graphics Witcher is clearly better, next-gen and pc where DAI is cross-gen.

Special effects, weather, phisics, hair also look better in TW3, DAI so has the slowing down when moving in mud

as for artistic style, TW3 does a good job. Some of you say DAI is made to look more cartoonish, but then why don't they make the CGI trailers more cartoonish if that was what they are going for. i think there engine is just not as good as REDengen3   

[Schreckstoff]

It depends on the difficulty, the dragon is nightmare on anything beyond easy/normal. First fight with Letho your gear and most of your abilites are not as powerful and upgraded as are in in the epilogue. Not to mention the fact that the place where you fight Letho first time is very small, you can barely dodge his grenades and spells, while in final fight you are in the huge open area.

 

As for chapter 3 i agree about being short, but it made up with many awesome moments like:

- confrontation with Letho

- fight with Dragon

- meeting Sigfried, Radovid, Cynthia...

- Geralt storming the Nilfgaard camp

- Roche taking revenge on Dethmold

- The Lodge and Nilfgaard plot twist

Are we talking post or pre difficulty patch? I started playing on 2nd highest difficulty (nightmare I believe) and was so lucky in the Prologue (stunned + executed the hard guys) that I finished it easily but when it came to the fight with Letho I suddenly had to tone it down to easy to stand a chance. 

 

-Confrontation with Letho was in the Epilogue not Chapter 3, if we count the Prologue towards Chapter 1, it'd be severely worse.

 

-The fight with the Dragon felt lackluster uninspired and lazy even on higher difficulty

 

It's been too long remembering the rest you mentioned all I remember from Chapter 3, despite it being boring and disappointing, is rescuing Triss, sparing the dragon and for some reason finding the dagger to release the Dragonlady from the curse on a random group of mobs in the Epilogue.

 

Oh I think there was this one questline with some stone elementanls 3 or so in 3 hidden locations.

[Bond]

^{Witcher 3 no question.} 

[9TailsFox]

How come an small, obscure company from eastern europe repeatedly makes games that are bigger and prettier than videogame giant EA?

 

Surely they don't have more money.

EA:When game is Finished?

Bioware: Not sure much left to finish.

EA:You have one month.

 

CD projekt red: What you doing.

Developer: Game and stuff.

CD projekt red: Good good, tell when you done.

[Ravenfeeder]

I prefer the W3 graphics. If the gameplay is anything like W2 I won't be buying it though, couldn't get through Flotsam it was so contrary to my preferred style of play.

[AllThatJazz]

Quite right. Wasteland 2 is coming out too. Pillar's of Eternity (my top game for the year), the Planescape: Torment sequel, and Shroud of the Avatar (the new game from Richard Garriott).

 

Did I forget any?

 

Divinity: Original Sin in 2 days? 

[Nohvarr]

Torment: Tides of Numenera, because unlike DA:I and TW3 it's not bound by the standard expectations of fantasy and Sci-fi games. It doesn't have to look like a medieval society, but it also doesn't have to look like a sleek/run down future. It can be justifiably weird and out there because it's so far into the distant future and so many things have changed it can look however it wants and be perfectly immersive.

[BubbleDncr]

I think good graphics are a plus, but they aren't particularly necessary - only in my most recent (current) playthrough of DA:O, did I go "wow...yea, these graphics are pretty bad." But this is like, 5 years after the game came out, with me playing a bunch of newer games since then. But after getting back into the game, I don't really notice the graphics - so it's definitely not breaking my immersion. 

[AllThatJazz]

See, I still think DA:O looks lovely - yes, I can tell it's aged, but it's still pretty to my eyes (especially when a little bit downsampled!). So that shows what I know about graphics (not much). And DAI looks gorgeous anyway. I can see there's a difference between it and W3 (there should be, given that Witcher 3 is next-gen exclusive), but personally I don't see that the difference is as massive as some are seeing. Some of the difference is just in art style/general aesthetic which is highly subjective preference. At the end of the day though, I'm pretty much guaranteed to enjoy DAI's gameplay and will probably love its characters - these are things that I am by no means sure of in W3, so I'll probably enjoy DAI more. Still buying both!

[Han Shot First]

Why is this thread even here ?There is no comparison..

I've played the witcher 2...the story was good .that is all. And from what I've seen of the Witcher 3 I wasn't really blown away. 

The Witcher games are the type you rent .

 

I think each series is superior in some areas.

 

The DA series has been better overall with dialogue and character interaction.

 

The Witcher series has been better overall with the main plot, political intrigue, and character choices having consequences.