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[TKavatar]

I think it's a reflection.

 

Of what? It certainly doesn't reflect the surrounding trees like the rest of the lake.

 

Must be another bug.

[Maraas]

Of what? It certainly doesn't reflect the surrounding trees

Of that mountain. Reflections of the trees are indiscernible, naturally.

[Maria Caliban]

It's the mountain.

[Rawgrim]

The setting and pacing of the game then as I haven't read the books (don't think many are available in English or German) The Witcher looks like a very gritty dark and realistic world. If there's suddenly a group of people, no matter the background, jumping around all over the battlefield moving twice as fast as everyone else it looks silly to me. Especially as the increased agility, movement and reaction speed would be used much more efficiently if they used simplistic movements.

 

DA is similar to Kingdom of Amalur, which had arguably one of the best fighting of recent years in RPGs, as it is just as over the top in the setting.

 

4 of the books are available in english now, I recently bought them I have only read one of them yet, but it was pretty good.

[Rawgrim]

Both games seem to have pretty darn fantastic graphics. I am glad I like both series.

[nici2412]

4 of the books are available in english now, I recently bought them I have only read one of them yet, but it was pretty good.

Just to add: 7 of the 8 released books(only the newest book is missing, but I think it hasn't been translated into any language so far) are available in german and they are well translated (professional translation)

[BlackGrifon]

Doesn't seem that way. Better, maybe, but definitely not by far. As Eternal Phoenix pointed out:

 

 

Also, who are those "other developers" BioWare "always fall behind with the faces/models"?

 

just what are you tring to prove with this pictures as "proof" of DAI quality. This is such a joke. On one side you have actual gameplay from The Witcher, and on the other you have a picture from  CGI trailer for DAI. the water effects are bad, the shadow shouldn't be there, the mountain is to far away to cast that shadow. 

[Farci Reprimer]

4 of the books are available in english now, I recently bought them I have only read one of them yet, but it was pretty good.

 

So you read the Last wish book then? Glad you liked it although many say the english publishers did not do the best possible job in their translation. Moreover, the next book in the story, Sword of Destiny was never translated to english, they just skipped it to move straight into Blood of Elves. Pretty stupid from their part because the book explains for example how Geralt first met Ciri, more about the on off relationship with Yennefer and tells many tales of Geralt in the form of short stories again.

 

Luckily there is a fan translation available in here along with the rest books yet to be translated to english.

 

If anyone is still confused the books are read in this order:

 

The Last Wish

The Sword of Destiny (first two books collection of short stories about Geralt)

Blood of Elves (starts the saga about the ashen haired girl named Ciri and her destiny)

Times of Contempt

Baptism of Fire

Tower of Swallow

Lady of the Lake (ends the "Ciri saga")

Season of Storms (not published yet in other languages than polish)

[dutch_gamer]

just what are you tring to prove with this pictures as "proof" of DAI quality. This is such a joke. On one side you have actual gameplay from The Witcher, and on the other you have a picture from  CGI trailer for DAI. the water effects are bad, the shadow shouldn't be there, the mountain is to far away to cast that shadow. 

The screenshot of DAI didn't come from a CGI trailer but from the actual game/gameplay. And how is that mountain too far away to cast a shadow in the water?

[The Elder King]

just what are you tring to prove with this pictures as "proof" of DAI quality. This is such a joke. On one side you have actual gameplay from The Witcher, and on the other you have a picture from  CGI trailer for DAI. the water effects are bad, the shadow shouldn't be there, the mountain is to far away to cast that shadow.

I think TW3 looks better then DAI, but that Shot isn't from a CGI trialer. All the trailers made for DAI are in-engine.

[Maraas]

This is such a joke.

Cosmic.

[Elhanan]

just what are you tring to prove with this pictures as "proof" of DAI quality. This is such a joke. On one side you have actual gameplay from The Witcher, and on the other you have a picture from CGI trailer for DAI. the water effects are bad, the shadow shouldn't be there, the mountain is to far away to cast that shadow.

Bias is showing; both look great, IMO. However, the game I will purchase has Pause functionality so I can enjoy these views safely.

[Rawgrim]

So you read the Last wish book then? Glad you liked it although many say the english publishers did not do the best possible job in their translation. Moreover, the next book in the story, Sword of Destiny was never translated to english, they just skipped it to move straight into Blood of Elves. Pretty stupid from their part because the book explains for example how Geralt first met Ciri, more about the on off relationship with Yennefer and tells many tales of Geralt in the form of short stories again.

 

Luckily there is a fan translation available in here along with the rest books yet to be translated to english.

 

If anyone is still confused the books are read in this order:

 

The Last Wish

The Sword of Destiny (first two books collection of short stories about Geralt)

Blood of Elves (starts the saga about the ashen haired girl named Ciri and her destiny)

Times of Contempt

Baptism of Fire

Tower of Swallow

Lady of the Lake (ends the "Ciri saga")

Season of Storms (not published yet in other languages than polish)

 

 

Quite right about the translation. I actually remember something about Geralt "breaking the china in the liingroom". China may have been a rather poor translation given the setting

[Rawgrim]

Just to add: 7 of the 8 released books(only the newest book is missing, but I think it hasn't been translated into any language so far) are available in german and they are well translated (professional translation)

 

Only 4 has been translated to english so far, I think. The 5th one is out later this year. They are available on the UK amazon site. Not sure if they are available on the US one.

 

The first book is really just a collection of short stories, I guess. I think the games might be abit darker than the books, actually.

[BlackGrifon]

The screenshot of DAI didn't come from a CGI trailer but from the actual game/gameplay. And how is that mountain too far away to cast a shadow in the water?

 

as i remember it, that picture is from the "meet the/explore the world" trailer or what its called. The quality is much better that what they have shown from actual gameplay, so perhaps you are right and it is not CGI and it is actualy a game engine cutscene/ tech demo.

 however if you are going to compare TW3 quality to DAI make it fare, compare ACTUAL gameplay, or compare CGI/cutscenes. So my point still stands TW3 pic is gameplay Where as DAI is NOT a gameplay picture 

[Farci Reprimer]

Quite right about the translation. I actually remember something about Geralt "breaking the china in the liingroom". China may have been a rather poor translation given the setting

 

Outch....... Lucklily I read the finnish translations which are done rather brilliantly and with care. I hear the german translation was one of the best too. Actually, most of europeans have been long enjoying all of Geralts adventures in their native languages. English publishers started the translation only after the games sold so well.

[Schreckstoff]

Just to add: 7 of the 8 released books(only the newest book is missing, but I think it hasn't been translated into any language so far) are available in german and they are well translated (professional translation)

That's good to know, I have been craving a new fantasy series for a while. Now it'd be nice to know which translation is better I usually prefer to read books in English despite my mother tongue being German.

[BlackGrifon]

Bias is showing; both look great, IMO. However, the game I will purchase has Pause functionality so I can enjoy these views safely.

 

i am not being BIAS, i like both games, sure TW3 is my favority, but i find that it is crap when people don't make fare points to declare one is better that the other one of the best example comes from so manny on this thread that have said TW3 is a "crap" game (i am exagerating to prove a point) because it does not have CC, because i can't play as a female or because it is not a party based game. That would be like me saing DAI is a **** game because it does not have driving (again exagerating to make a point).

[Rawgrim]

I think the mountain shadow on the water looks fine. Maybe its my eyes getting poorer, but I can`t see any issue with it. Looks fantastic. Makes me want to jump into the water.

[Elhanan]

i am not being BIAS, i like both games, sure TW3 is my favority, but i find that it is crap when people don't make fare points to declare one is better that the other one of the best example comes from so manny on this thread that have said TW3 is a "crap" game (i am exagerating to prove a point) because it does not have CC, because i can't play as a female or because it is not a party based game. That would be like me saing DAI is a **** game because it does not have driving (again exagerating to make a point).

Your attempts at objectivity are crushed when you make such 'exaggerations' and other remarks. The DAI screenshot has 'bad water' and misplaced mountain shadows? Seems rather biased to me.

[Aaleel]

Your attempts at objectivity are crushed when you make such 'exaggerations' and other remarks. The DAI screenshot has 'bad water' and misplaced mountain shadows? Seems rather biased to me.

 

Well if someone thinks the mountain is too far away to cast that type of shadow on the water regardless of the angle of the sun I don't see how that is biased, that's more of an observation.

[Caja]

The setting and pacing of the game then as I haven't read the books (don't think many are available in English or German) The Witcher looks like a very gritty dark and realistic world. If there's suddenly a group of people, no matter the background, jumping around all over the battlefield moving twice as fast as everyone else it looks silly to me. Especially as the increased agility, movement and reaction speed would be used much more efficiently if they used simplistic movements.

 

DA is similar to Kingdom of Amalur, which had arguably one of the best fighting of recent years in RPGs, as it is just as over the top in the setting.

 

I agree with nici2412.  The books are all available in German except the newest one. I wrote a little bit about it in the Witcher thread in the off topic forum.  

 

And CDPR used motion capture for the sword movements.  So, the movement is what it is when  a trained fighter swings  the sword. However, I think it's safe to say that they increased the speed of the animation later on. Which makes sense to me since Geralt is a mutant and has better reflexes and all that.  

Modifié par Caja, 29 juin 2014 - 06:43 .

[BlackGrifon]

Your attempts at objectivity are crushed when you make such 'exaggerations' and other remarks. The DAI screenshot has 'bad water' and misplaced mountain shadows? Seems rather biased to me.

first of if you are going to quote me do it wright I SAID: "the water effect are bad" not "bad water"

 

in case you don't understand my meaning of "exageration" i'll explain clearly.

many on this thread clain TW3 is a bad game because it doesn't have CC, and because it isn't a party based game, or the "feminists" that call it a bad game because you don't have the option to play as a Girl so you quit the game after 1h, if that

I'm fine with having a favorite tipe of game, it's normal, but to say that any game without a party sistem and CC is an avarage game THAT MAKES YOU BIAS 

[Maraas]

as i remember it, that picture is from the "meet the/explore the world" trailer or what its called

Yep. And it's actual gameplay. Nope, you can't take that shot from this video:

Spoiler

 

All videos of DAI are actual gameplay. And all are equal in terms of visual fidelity. From the teaser:

Spoiler

 

and right to the last one:

Spoiler

 
As for the mountains and shadows reflections, here's an example irl:

Spoiler

[Schreckstoff]

I agree with nici2412.  The books are all available in German except the newest one. I wrote a little bit about it in the Witcher thread in the off topic forum.  

 

And CDPR used motion capture for the sword movements.  So, the movement is what it is when  a trained fighter swings  the sword. However, I think it's safe to say that they increased the speed of the animation later on. Which makes sense to me since Geralt is a mutant and has better reflexes and all that.  

They didn't ask them to portray a realistic fight though, did they? I mean Geralt leaves his guard constantly wide open and pirouettes aren't the smartest moves you can make on the battlefield (idc if it is described as such in the books, visually it looks silly to me)

 

Maybe they'll get it right with TW3 but combat never was a strong suit of CDPR. In TW2 a modder made it bearable and it even impressed CDPR so much they outright hired him and integrated his mod into the game so I have hope for 3.