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Modders managed to do textures etc for the Mass Effect games, despite UE3 not being terrifically moddable either. Whatever DICE says about Frostbite being unmoddable, I bet some talented modders out there will find a way to do something ...

 

Yeah, but actually using those mods was such a headache it probably wasn't even worth it. 

 

I kind of expect the same for DA:I. 



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Modders managed to do textures etc for the Mass Effect games, despite UE3 not being terrifically moddable either. Whatever DICE says about Frostbite being unmoddable, I bet some talented modders out there will find a way to do something ...

 

I was over at the Xentax game research forums trying to find info about the Frostbite file format. You can unpack them but repacking is out of the question.

 

It's not looking good as far as textures are concerned but modifying combat values might be possible if we get a master config file.


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EEEK, think I accidentally clicked a report button while spinning my wheel down, not sure. Hope not. I saw a box pop up and disappear before I could read it. Allthatjaz, it came up as I was going by yours.  Sorry  :(  I hope it wasn't that. This laptop sucks normally.


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I don't get some people on those other sites. It's not like you can only buy one RPG per generation, and it has to be a choice between The Witcher and Dragon Age. Hell they are almost 9 months apart anyway.

 

I still go uncontrollably wobbly when people post Geralt pics, please stop. I can't take it.


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Why is this thread even here ?There is no comparison..

I've played the witcher 2...the story was good .that is all. And from what I've seen of the Witcher 3 I wasn't really blown away. 

The Witcher games are the type you rent .


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Haha, don't worry about it, aTigerslunch, these things happen all too easily especially with laptops :)



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Yeah, but actually using those mods was such a headache it probably wasn't even worth it. 

 

I kind of expect the same for DA:I. 

 

I've used texture mods for ME - to be honest I don't find them much more of a headache than Bethesda's mods to use, especially all the faffing around with load orders. I swear it took me days to get F:NV to run stably and look pretty ...

 

@TK - well let's hope for that at least, then, I guess ..



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I've used texture mods for ME - to be honest I don't find them much more of a headache than Bethesda's mods to use, especially all the faffing around with load orders. I swear it took me days to get F:NV to run stably and look pretty ...

 

Meh. I'd honestly take sorting through the load orders with BOSS over having to use an external program to apply textures and wait half an hour of blackscreen before the game starts. >>


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Hah, I love fiddling about with external programs and typing things in, but relentless ticking and unticking of little boxes kinda got me down. diff'rent strokes I guess ... :) I never had to wait long for ME to load, though, and I did like my extra-purdy FemSheps *amthatshallow*



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PinkDiamondstl,  I quit Witcher one and two before I got far. First one had to do with a few problems, the second one I got bored once at dwarf town. Third I will rent and not buy cause I don't see replay ability from first two that much. They are not the same with DA:I and with the huge timeframe between each, I don't get the arguments. And W3 is next gen exclusive as well, to compare a game from them versus BW, its better for them to match against ME4 instead.  EDIT: I still think its lame to compare those as well. ;)


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I don't get some people on those other sites. It's not like you can only buy one RPG per generation, and it has to be a choice between The Witcher and Dragon Age. Hell they are almost 9 months apart anyway.

 

I still go uncontrollably wobbly when people post Geralt pics, please stop. I can't take it.

 

Huh? I was under the impression that DA will be released early October, and Witcher the 25th of February or something like that. How is that nine months?



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I'll buy both anyway...Sure the witcher looks better but while both games undeniably look good,they are two completely different franchises and each of them will offer me a different gaming and RP experience.

But to be honest as much as I enjoy playing as Geralt of Rivia,I tend to enjoy a game even more when I'm given the opportunity to create my own character.


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W3 clearly looks better imo, forests, water and general enviroment looks a lot natural anyway i can't decide if i like DA:I artstyle or not.

 

Some dragons, people, armor etc looked like wax models in the trailers and screenshots, BioWare might polish it maybe.



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Huh? I was under the impression that DA will be released early October, and Witcher the 25th of February or something like that. How is that nine months?

Woooahh I haven't checked that in a LONG time, holy crap that's sooner than I thought.



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PinkDiamondstl,  I quit Witcher one and two before I got far. First one had to do with a few problems, the second one I got bored once at dwarf town. Third I will rent and not buy cause I don't see replay ability from first two that much. They are not the same with DA:I and with the huge timeframe between each, I don't get the arguments. And W3 is next gen exclusive as well, to compare a game from them versus BW, its better for them to match against ME4 instead.  EDIT: I still think its lame to compare those as well. ;)

Yes .Games like the witcher have very low replay ability .I wanted my money back seconds after beating the W2. I won't get suckered like that again.I'll gamefiy W3  in and send it right back.


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I'm not keen on either game getting crapped on in this thread.


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Yes .Games like the witcher have very low replay ability .I wanted my money back seconds after beating the W2. I won't get suckered like that again.I'll gamefiy W3  in and send it right back.


Obviously you didn't like it, but for those that did it had pretty good replayability with divergent content especially in the Second Act.
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Yes .Games like the witcher have very low replay ability .I wanted my money back seconds after beating the W2. I won't get suckered like that again.I'll gamefiy W3  in and send it right back.

 

Yes .Games like the witcher have very low replay ability .I wanted my money back seconds after beating the W2. I won't get suckered like that again.I'll gamefiy W3  in and send it right back.

Depending on what choice you make at the end of act 1, you will play a completely different second act and partly different third act. If you are saying that witcher 2 has a "low replay ability" than you have to say that dragon age II has none replay ability. (in my opinion both have a high replay ability in comparison to oher games)


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Obviously you didn't like it, but for those that did it had pretty good replayability with divergent content especially in the Second Act.

  Not nearly enough content to keep me interested .

 

Depending on what choice you make at the end of act 1, you will play a completely different second act and partly different third act. If you are saying that witcher 2 has a "low replay ability" than you have to say that dragon age II has none replay ability. (in my opinion both have a high replay ability in comparison to oher games)

I would say it if that was even close to the truth .



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It's two diffrent RPG, different world , different character , different story , different gameplay   and them  look great .

I don't care of the difference finaly , it's two different experience and   I will  play DAI in October and TW3 in Febraury .


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Quite honestly for me graphics aren't that important. At some point I hardly see the differences or to be clear I stop to care. DA:I graphics are good maybe not as good as TW3 but I give more weight to the plot, the characters and exploration part as well as other gameplay mechanics. I really don't care too much on graphics provided they are acceptable for 2014 standards. An excellent optimization and sound gameplay mechanics are far more important for me.



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Yes .Games like the witcher have very low replay ability .I wanted my money back seconds after beating the W2. I won't get suckered like that again.I'll gamefiy W3  in and send it right back.

Your post sounds like you didn't even played W2 or you shut it off in 5 min. W2 is in another league compared to most RPG games when it comes replay value.

Chapter 2 & 3 are both different depending on what choices you did in chapter 1. You don't even see new characters, locations, dialogue and etc if you don't replay the game in different way. Not to mention the main plot and side quests are both completely changed depending on who Geralt decided to side at the end of first chapter.

 

And no this isn't hate post or rant, i love both Bioware and CDPR games but saying that W2 doesn't have any replay value is BS.


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Your post sounds like you didn't even played W2 or you shut it off in 5 min. W2 is in another league compared to most RPG games when it comes replay value.

Chapter 2 & 3 are both different depending on what choices you did in chapter 1. You don't even see new characters, locations, dialogue and etc if you don't replay the game in different way. Not to mention the main plot and side quests are both completely changed depending on who Geralt decided to side at the end of first chapter.

 

And no this isn't hate post or rant, i love both Bioware and CDPR games but saying that W2 doesn't have any replay value is BS.

Chapter 3 is horrible either way you choose at the end of chapter 1 and what it boils down to is playing the Witcher 2 twice.



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I disagree.  First, concepts of immersion still exist for any game, not just RPGs.  If there's a game genre that I consider should place higher importance on graphics, it's not RPGs.  It could be my legacy of playing RPGs that often didn't have the best graphics.

 

Immersion is a nebulous concept though.  Graphics has little overall impact on my immersion I find.  I can still go back and play an Infinity Engine game and find myself immersed in the game even today.

 

That's not to say I don't enjoy nice graphics.  It's just less of a concern for me compared to a lot of other aspects.  Different strokes for different folks I find.

I totally agree.  I have had complete immersion in several excellent NWN modules, the graphics of which are certainly significantly behind modern games.  To me, plot, setting and character development contribute much more to immersion.  When inconsistent things happen in these fields, its much more jarring to me than non-realistic graphics.


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Well, this discussion seems old. From when graphics progressed at their fastest pace. And it seems I've seen it more about FPS games. There was a time when "the best" FPS was always the one with the highest definition of visuals. Or so was the gist of the cackle.

 

There are so many things in the air here. The degree of definition. The degree of realism. The degree of visual attractiveness. The efficiency of conveying an atmosphere. The mood. The agreeability and suitability of art style.

 

But is it even a relevant discussion? The games are quite different, and thus all those things in the air serve slightly different goals.

I will probably buy both games. But for different reasons. I'm very keen on DA:I, but will buy TW3 mostly for support and to have a firsthand look. I doubt I'll play it much.

 

I like a lot of what CDPR do. I like that they take themselves seriously, and their game seriously, and make a game as they, the creators, visualize it, rather than as what a clueless marketing department thinks 14 year old boys would get excited about. The atmosphere and mood in TW2 was fantastic, and greatly refreshing after DA2's remake of DA. In that regard, I think CDPR represent a direction that I would like to see many more games take. And I think it's a direction more video games should venture out into, rather than staying in that same clich'eed, video-game'ish duck pond all the time.

 

(I'd like to point out CoD as well. The first games had a very realistic, authentic atmosphere, as in actually being there and then -atmosphere, rather than watching any utterly unreasonable and idiotic Tom-Cruise-Mission-Impossible/Matrix3 nonsense-action.

Then gradually, CoD was turned to different developers, and progressively started to deploy things like 600 meter scooter jumps and what have you. Finally, they arrive at 'Avanced Warfare', which is just yet another of those gimmicky console, non-stop-shooting-galleys which were always made in scores, but didn't sell so well. To me, the end of the CoD franchise was some time before this. Am I so wrong in thinking that CoD's attraction, originally, was its sense of authenticity?)

 

But, returning, TW2 and TW3 doesn't interest me that much as games. They are twitch-games and have a very fixed protagonist. Nothing I look to RPGs for. So my main interest is in DA:I. I wouldn't like to say anything about the graphics before I've played the game. Only then will I know how I've taken to them. But my main focus will be how effective it is in supporting an atmosphere, rather than the technology's actual degree of hi-definition.