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Idealistic to think that everyone can do the same, that is.

Though I pointed out that it would be the best option, actually.

 

I don't want to be that "open-minded" and completely ignore everything around me. You can't be a hero for everyone in the end, we all have to choose sides at some point. I always choose mages and pro-mages viewes because it feels right, in that case I fell involved in the history and fell like a part of it instead of being "just a player" or worse "I'll just try everything and see what will become of it". It's closest thing to a roleplaying to me. 

It doesn't mean that I'm some unreasonable jerk who kill every templar on sight, screw all authorities and kill every character who don't share my views (i.e. Wynne, Fenris and so on) or that I don't want to explore some characters stories and their motives.

 

If you're only going to play the game once, then I guess you will have to play as an opinionated self-insert and then deal with the backlash from that... no skin off my back.

Pff, aren't we all? 

I never play as a villain or even close to that. I spare almost everyone I can and do everything I can for every companion.

If they'll pay me for that kindness with a dagger in the back, it certainly won't be because I screwed something up. Because no matter what, Isabela f*cks us, uses us and so does Anders. 

Some things we simply can't control and can't be responsible for.



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Idealistic to think that everyone will do the same, that is.

Though I pointed out that it would be the best option, actually.

My mistake... I seem to have jumped to conclusions...

 

I don't want to be that "open-minded" and completely ignore everything around me. You can't be a hero for everyone in the end, we all should choose sides at some point. I always choose mages and pro-mages viewes because in that case I fell involved in the history and fell like a part of it instead of being "just a player" or worse "I'll just try everything and see what will become of it". It's closest thing to a roleplaying to me. 

It doesn't mean that I'm some unreasonable jerk who kills every templar on sight, screw all authorities and kill every character who don't share my views (i.e. Wynne, Fenris and so on) or that I don't want to explore some characters stories and their motives.

 

Pff, aren't we all? 

No.  I actually enjoy playing multiple characters with a wide range of personalities and motives that may or may not be in line with my own morality.  It's like watching a movie multiple times but seeing alternate realities play out as the protagonist changes with each telling of the tale.  Eventually I begin to favor one protagonist or another, but I still like to approach the situation from different angles even if that specific character interprets things differently on another playthrough...

 

So basically, the "neutral" character is a dry run meant to give me a lot of flexibility so that I don't approach the game expecting to change the world in a specific way and then getting frustrated by the lack of options.  There is also a good deal of inner conflict within the character.  He probably will not get along with certain companions (based on the little information we have), but I he isn't prejudiced against spirits for example, so Cole has a good chance of joining the team (unless he makes a horrible first impression).  Only the starting point is "neutral," but his personality and motives will determine how long things stay that way and what direction he will head in once he is exposed to each situation... I am simply trying to avoid deciding all of that in advance.



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I am simply trying to avoid deciding all of that in advance.

Well, I'm also trying to but it's not like I can forget everything I know so far so I simply will be very cautious and careful around some characters. Vivienne is just the most dangerous of them so far (at least for me) and also, Iron Bull. But I also want to know them so I prooobably let them in.



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Well, I'm also trying to but it's not like I can forget everything I know so far so I simply will be very cautious and careful around some characters. Vivienne is just the most dangerous of them so far (at least for me) and also, Iron Bull. But I also want to know them so I prooobably let them in.

I hope it works out for you.  I realize that strict roleplaying isn't for everyone, so I can understand not really being that into the idea...

 

I am expecting some drama from Vivienne, but for some reason I don't see her as being dangerous to the team.  But on the other hand, I'm wary of Solas, Cole, Iron Bull, and Leliana, so I can understand how this might also apply to Vivienne... either way, a betrayal can add to the plot as long as we get a chance for retribution.  Betrayal followed by a plot-armored escape, however, isn't anything I'd want to see...



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That is my hope as well...

 

Of course there's a drama. It's Dragon age,there's drama everywhere.  :lol:

I don't think she's dangerous to the team simply because why would she be? She wants power so she'll probably use the Inquisition and Inquisitor by manipulating us. Killing some of the team members in the process isn't likely, I think she can be more subtle than that.

But I also think she can pull off something some of us won't like.



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All this talk of viv makes me love her more

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I can't wait to find out what she's actually like.  All the descriptions and guesswork in the world can't beat that.  And with that voice... awesome.


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I think I may know why Vivienne isn't romanceable.

 

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I can't wait to find out what she's actually like.  All the descriptions and guesswork in the world can't beat that.  And with that voice... awesome.

 

Yeah.

 

I hope we recruit her early.  I'll want to pick her up the first night I play the game but I can't be up super late b/c I work the next morning :(

 

Who am I kidding, I won't get very far that first night since I'll be in the CC for awhile.



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I can't wait to find out what she's actually like.  All the descriptions and guesswork in the world can't beat that.  And with that voice... awesome.

agreed

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Hey guys!

 

I've bought Sims 4 and decided to try and recreate Vivienne.  I'm still getting the hang of the CAS system, so this is a first attempt. 

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Her exact skin colour isn't available, so that had to do. I settled on grey eyes for now, though I'll change them to brown later when the face is better.  Also, I'm terrible at fashion and make-up :unsure:

 

BTW, she wants to get 'Fabulously Wealthy', she's Business Savvy, Self-Assured, a Perfectionist and Ambitious


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Hey guys! I've bought Sims 4 and decided to try and recreate Vivienne.  I'm still getting the hang of the CAS system, so this is a first attempt. o94XdNc.png4HzjOD2.pngAHVwGn1.png Her exact skin colour isn't available, so that had to do. I settled on grey eyes for now, though I'll change them to brown later when the face is better.  Also, I'm terrible at fashion and make-up :unsure: BTW, she wants to get 'Fabulously Wealthy', she's Business Savvy, Self-Assured, a Perfectionist and Ambitious

lol i needed this truly thank you

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Idealistic to think that everyone can do the same, that is.

Though I pointed out that it would be the best option, actually.

 

I don't want to be that "open-minded" and completely ignore everything around me. You can't be a hero for everyone in the end, we all have to choose sides at some point. I always choose mages and pro-mages viewes because it feels right, in that case I fell involved in the history and fell like a part of it instead of being "just a player" or worse "I'll just try everything and see what will become of it". It's closest thing to a roleplaying to me. 

It doesn't mean that I'm some unreasonable jerk who kill every templar on sight, screw all authorities and kill every character who don't share my views (i.e. Wynne, Fenris and so on) or that I don't want to explore some characters stories and their motives.

 

Pff, aren't we all? 

I never play as a villain or even close to that. I spare almost everyone I can and do everything I can for every companion.

If they'll pay me for that kindness with a dagger in the back, it certainly won't be because I screwed something up. Because no matter what, Isabela f*cks us, uses us and so does Anders. 

Some things we simply can't control and can't be responsible for.

 I actually alwys get some evil in my gameplay. eg ME2 I deliberatly killed of some characters just to see what it would give in ME3 (I didn't really like 2 companios, never mind who), DAI could be the same for me



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The hat is an extension of her crown chakra.

*skips away happily*
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I know it wasn't a shot at anyone in particular, I hope. Like I said, Vivienne just seems like a mean person. if not that but her skin color is what turns a majority of her detractors off then I'll lose all hope in humanity.

You got to be real, man. It actually IS her skin color/ethnicity that turns a majority of her detractors off. I've seen white washed pics of her, and other "black" players actually trying to white wash her. Fighting against a poster called Nyeredzi just to white wash Vivienne's eyes, and hair. It's messed up.



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You got to be real, man. It actually IS her skin color/ethnicity that turns a majority of her detractors off. I've seen white washed pics of her, and other "black" players actually trying to white wash her. Fighting against a poster called Nyeredzi just to white wash Vivienne's hair. It's messed up.

 

I know there are some. But the majority? If that's true then it's a damn shame. Take away the stupid hats and give her a curly fro and I'd say she's stupid fine.



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I know there are some. But the majority? If that's true then it's a damn shame. Take away the stupid hats and give her a curly fro and I'd say she's stupid fine.

its a minority my friend its not so widespread and if it was it would greatly difficult cause frostbite will keep our lady safe

Now lets drop this subject and continue to worship our lady drinks anyone ? :)
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I know there are some. But the majority? If that's true then it's a damn shame. Take away the stupid hats and give her a curly fro and I'd say she's stupid fine.

Afro? Anything natural, even short and nappy is cool. People are vast and different, its a matter of accepting it, and respecting it.

 

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I favor the natural hair on Vivienne.



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So beutiful maker preserve me

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Afro? Short and nappy is cool. People are vast and different, its a matter of accepting it, and respecting it.

That sounds familiar...  oh well, it must be a common point of view.



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Afro? Short and nappy is cool. People are vast and different, its a matter of accepting it, and respecting it.

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I wasn't knocking short and nappy. This

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just happens to be my 'type'.


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I wasn't knocking short and nappy. This

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just happens to be my 'type'.

same

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Viv will proably only take off her hat if we obey her or become her friend lol i hope she does boss me around

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Bioware: We decide to not make Vivienne a Romance!

 

Me:

 

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I wasn't knocking short and nappy. This

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just happens to be my 'type'.

 

same

Meant natural hair without chems or modern faking treatment.