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The Vivienne Thread - more than just parlor tricks


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IronBull get along with Cole..??  a demon in disguise... I don't think that's true.

 

Apparently Cole is an exception to Bull's little phobia, judging by his interview...

 

'See, Bull is funny. He does hate demons, but if you're on the team, you're on the team. In Bull's mind, Cole is a weird squirrelly kid who just needs a night of good drinks and bad women to get him sorted out.'



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One other thing... I remember hearing that Vivienne wanted Cole banished.  That doesn't sound neutral to me...



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One other thing... I remember hearing that Vivienne wanted Cole banished.  That doesn't sound neutral to me...

Well, Cole did murder a number of Mages in the White Spire.  I could understand her being slow to trust him because of that.



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Well, Cole did murder a number of Mages in the White Spire.  I could understand her being slow to trust him because of that.

Yeah, but that sounds more like a serious disagreement or conflict, not neutrality... and I thought Panda was the one who pointed this out to me long ago... :huh:

 

edit:  wait... I found the post, but it wasn't Panda who said it... http://forum.bioware.../#entry17205590

On the other hand, Panda did say that Vivienne dislikes Cole...



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Yeah, but that sounds more like a serious disagreement or conflict, not neutrality... and I thought Panda was the one who pointed this out to me long ago... :huh:

I don't know anything about the neutral thing.  I just know that Cole murdered mages in the White Spire, and Vivienne is from the White Spire.  Ergo, she'll probably not be too fond of him.



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I don't know anything about the neutral thing.  I just know that Cole murdered mages in the White Spire, and Vivienne is from the White Spire.  Ergo, she'll probably not be too fond of him.

 

She's from Montsimmard.  I doubt she knows what Cole did but regardless, he's a spirit/demon/whatever and in Vivienne's opinion, doesn't belong on this side of the veil.  It's not personal. 



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One other thing... I remember hearing that Vivienne wanted Cole banished.  That doesn't sound neutral to me...

 

Yeah, strongly dislikes, maybe not as strongly as Sera though. Viv just has a healthy distrust of demons. I think one dev said a team with Sera, Cole and Viv is team not speaking to one another.



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I think people thinks that the companions won't get along the whole game, but that isn't true. That's probably the starting character arcs for the companions, but not the endgame arc. Aveline and Isabella started off hating each other, and then slowly grew to accept each other flaws. With that statement, I hope to see Vivienne and Cole grow together on this 200+ hour adventure! I pair Vivienne up with Celene or a dead spouse that she couldn't save, so now she doesn't want to be involved in anything romantically.

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Yeah, strongly dislikes, maybe not as strongly as Sera though. Viv just has a healthy distrust of demons. I think one dev said a team with Sera, Cole and Viv is team not speaking to one another.

Hm... I know it's kind of a troll thing to do, but now that I know this, I feel compelled to take this group on at least one mission... :>


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Hm... I know it's kind of a troll thing to do, but now that I know this, I feel compelled to take this group on at least one mission... :>

 

Same. :whistle:

 

Let the awkwardness just happen. :lol:



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It's kind of a shame that Vivienne doesn't seem to get along that well with Sera seeing as she'll be in my party just as much as Viv.



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It's kind of a shame that Vivienne doesn't seem to get along that well with Sera seeing as she'll be in my party just as much as Viv.

 

Well I know both Sera and Viv dislike Cole, not sure if they dislike one another though.



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Well I know both Sera and Viv dislike Cole, not sure if they dislike one another though.

They most probably do.



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They most probably do.

Hm.... Sera dislikes nobles whereas Vivienne idolizes them... I think you may be right.



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They most probably do.

 

Yeah probably, actually come to think of it yeah, Sera dislikes people of powerful influence. Well this will be trickery, seeing as I'm using Viv as my go to mage and Sera is a given anyway.


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I think Sera and Vivienne might have some tension, at least. I imagine Vivienne's whole lavish lifestyle and power-climbing thing might rub Sera the wrong way. 



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Yes. I've said this a few times before, but I *really* can't see those two getting along one bit.



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I remember the devs saying that when the squad consist of Vivienne, Dorian and Sera it's basically team make fun of the peasant person or something like that.



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I remember the devs saying that when the squad consist of Vivienne, Dorian and Sera it's basically team make fun of the peasant person or something like that.

Wait... so Dorian makes fun of Sera in that party?  I thought they were both on team YOLO? :blink:   This is all very confusing... *has flashbacks to high school*



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I remember the devs saying that when the squad consist of Vivienne, Dorian and Sera it's basically team make fun of the peasant person or something like that.

 

I need a renegade interrupt moment in game if this happens too much. :bandit:


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I need a renegade interrupt moment in game if this happens too much. :bandit:

Preferably involving throwing someone into a volcano.


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Preferably involving throwing someone into a volcano.

 

Lol!



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Oddly enough, I can picture Sera and Vivienne getting along in a catty sort of way. Viv is in a special situation where she has power within a system that usually shuns people like her. I could see Sera begrudgingly respecting that in time. It depends on what their arcs are, I guess.

 

I found the wording used to describe how Vivienne views Cole interesting. Why "banish safely" and not simply destroy/eliminate? The former could indicate that she understands the danger of interacting with spirits, while not necessarily viewing Cole as malevolent. Basically, just wanting him away from mortals who would otherwise corrupt him, intentionally or not. Also notice that by comparison with Sera, who's described as "refusing to talk to 'it' altogether" it would seem she does at least acknowledge his existence if you let him join; though I suspect she'd keep things very short and aloof with him (for both their sakes).

 

Wait... so Dorian makes fun of Sera in that party?  I thought they were both on team YOLO? :blink:   This is all very confusing... *has flashbacks to high school*

 

Good be good natured ribbing from his end; that Sera will heartily return when he least expects it.



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Wait... so Dorian makes fun of Sera in that party?  I thought they were both on team YOLO? :blink:   This is all very confusing... *has flashbacks to high school*

I think it mostly had to do with her clothes. Plus it might be all in god nature on Dorian's part.

 

Either that or i'm confusing Sera with Cole which is likely since that tweet was awhile ago. I should see if I can dig it up.



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I remember the devs saying that when the squad consist of Vivienne, Dorian and Sera it's basically team make fun of the peasant person or something like that.

 

I think it was team 'rich people mock the elf's outfit'.