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[Icy Magebane]

Keep in mind we can only use eight abilities anyway. Maybe have some pyro, barrier, and KE moves?

Tbh, I don't trust the computer AI to handle a fragile, Guard-less melee mage properly, so I am going to forgo KE abilities entirely... I actually worked on VIvienne's move set after I posted, and this is what I came up with...

 

Barrier, Lightning Bolt, Energy Barrage, Flash Fire, Immolate, Fire Mine, Wall of Fire, Focus Power

 

It's not pure pyromancy, so it's a bit less boring that the original design... also, I'm thinking that if she can paralyze a powerful enemy with Lightning Bolt and then put a Fire Mine underneath them (1600% damage + 5% damage per 10% missing mana due to the Conductive Current passive), that should make her somewhat valuable.  I'm thinking of ditching Wall of Fire, but it causes Fear, so I don't know... :/

[MattH]

I think I'm going full Winter tree with Viv...

[Icy Magebane]

I think I'm going full Winter tree with Viv...

I had been thinking about that, but my PC mage will be taking Winter, so... xD  She's out of luck.

[raging_monkey]

I had been thinking about that, but my PC mage will be taking Winter, so... xD  She's out of luck.

fire is too flashy winter is mercyful im going full lighting... UNLIMITED POWAHHH!!! Lol

[Icy Magebane]

fire is too flashy winter is mercyful im going full lighting... UNLIMITED POWAHHH!!! Lol

That's Dorian's gig...   Maybe I shouldn't have planned her out last... the problem is that I don't like her spec, so she's going to feel generic no matter what I do.  Dorian and Solas at least have the benefit of unique abilities from their specs, in addition to the elemental and spirit trees...

[raging_monkey]

That's Dorian's gig...   Maybe I shouldn't have planned her out last... the problem is that I don't like her spec, so she's going to feel generic no matter what I do.  Dorian and Solas at least have the benefit of unique abilities from their specs, in addition to the elemental and spirit trees...

true but you could spec her as a support mage like me

[Karim_A]

fire is too flashy winter is mercyful im going full lighting... UNLIMITED POWAHHH!!! Lol

 

Winter merciful? In the books ice spells = death, I've yet to read that someone survived being frozen lol they normally shatter into "bloody chunks" 

 

From what other people have posted I believe that Vivienne will be a "Knight Enchater" have no idea what that would mean in terms of skills but I think that I would at least max that out for her. 

 

As for he other specialisations since she would be the second mage in the party (Inquisitor being the first) I plan on making her the defense specialist and maxing out the Winter tree for her, freezing and wall of ice ENEMY LOCKDOWN! 

 

I'll dish out the Fire and the Rift magic while Dorian hits them with Lightning and Necromancy. 

 

Iron Bull will just destroy everything in sight. 

 

As for rogues I'll switch frequently before Varric and Cole. 

[Icy Magebane]

true but you could spec her as a support mage like me

I was thinking of adding this to my post, but I didn't.  In retrospect, I should have:  Solas is my Spirit expert.  3 spells from Spirit + 3 spells from Rift Mage (offensive magic) + Immolate + Focus Power = extremely OP support mage.  Vivienne's spec is just really holding her back... In my mind, at least.  Maybe the computer will be able to handle KE... or maybe KE will have a powerful defensive buff even if I don't use the melee attacks?

[Karim_A]

I was thinking of adding this to my post, but I didn't.  In retrospect, I should have:  Solas is my Spirit expert.  3 spells from Spirit + 3 spells from Rift Mage (offensive magic) + Immolate + Focus Power = extremely OP support mage.  Vivienne's spec is just really holding her back... In my mind, at least.  Maybe the computer will be able to handle KE... or maybe KE will have a powerful defensive buff even if I don't use the melee attacks?

 

To be fair (I could be wrong) we don't know what being a "Knight Enchanter" entails so it is possible that she could surprise you with some pretty unique skills. I am also ignorant about the Necromancy tree so I do not even know how heavily I will invest in it for Dorian. That being said I look forward to trying to find unique roles and combinations for everyone. I think this game will force me to have a lot of varied parties. 

[Icy Magebane]

To be fair (I could be wrong) we don't know what being a "Knight Enchanter" entails so it is possible that she could surprise you with some pretty unique skills. I am also ignorant about the Necromancy tree so I do not even know how heavily I will invest in it for Dorian. That being said I look forward to trying to find unique roles and combinations for everyone. I think this game will force me to have a lot of varied parties. 

No doubt.  I am very excited about seeing how well the different party members work together in the roles I've come up with... it's just that Vivienne's role isn't every interesting and I've already come up with what look like very effective builds for the other mages.  I hope you are right and KE surprises me... I saw an ability called "Walking Fortress" that was attached to a staff, and there has been some speculation that this is a KE spell.  If so, that might make Vivienne more useful than she is right now (basic nuker mage whose best attack probably doesn't work on bosses [paralyze]  >_>).

[Mihura]

No doubt.  I am very excited about seeing how well the different party members work together in the roles I've come up with... it's just that Vivienne's role isn't every interesting and I've already come up with what look like very effective builds for the other mages.  I hope you are right and KE surprises me... I saw an ability called "Walking Fortress" that was attached to a staff, and there has been some speculation that this is a KE spell.  If so, that might make Vivienne more useful than she is right now (basic nuker mage whose best attack probably doesn't work on bosses [paralyze]  >_>).

 

I think is was confirmed that KE can summon weapons into the left hand, and it seems to be a tank mage in some aspects.

[Icy Magebane]

I think is was confirmed that KE can summon weapons into the left hand, and it seems to be a tank mage in some aspects.

Each spec we've seen so far has had 3 actives and a Focus power... they might not all be variations of Spirit Blade.  At least, I hope not.  Regardless, I don't want to deal with the headache of babysitting the computer while it tries to handle this task.  Warriors at least have the benefit of Guard, so they can be invulnerable most of the time, especially if I keep them inside a Barrier... Vivienne would only have Barrier, which means she's at a much greater risk of taking health damage.  It just seems like an unnecessary hassle when I'll have so many better options (stealth archer, AoE archer, necromancer, party buff warrior, invulnerable 2 handed warrior, etc).

[The Elder King]

I was thinking of adding this to my post, but I didn't.  In retrospect, I should have:  Solas is my Spirit expert.  3 spells from Spirit + 3 spells from Rift Mage (offensive magic) + Immolate + Focus Power = extremely OP support mage.  Vivienne's spec is just really holding her back... In my mind, at least.  Maybe the computer will be able to handle KE... or maybe KE will have a powerful defensive buff even if I don't use the melee attacks?

I think some passives and/of at least one active of KE will boost our defences/armour.

[Mihura]

Each spec we've seen so far has had 3 actives and a Focus power... they might not all be variations of Spirit Blade.  At least, I hope not.  Regardless, I don't want to deal with the headache of babysitting the computer while it tries to handle this task.  Warriors at least have the benefit of Guard, so they can be invulnerable most of the time, especially if I keep them inside a Barrier... Vivienne would only have Barrier, which means she's at a much greater risk of taking health damage.  It just seems like an unnecessary hassle when I'll have so many better options (stealth archer, AoE archer, necromancer, party buff warrior, invulnerable 2 handed warrior, etc).

 

I am not saying it is better than a tank warrior class but it sure looks a lot more on the melee side. I am gonna to take Vivienne/Cassandra/Cole and a Reaver Inquisitor in my first PT but you can always have other Barrier with a Mage Inquisitor. 

I agree actually, I see no real advantage for having a mage that is not a real tank like Arcane Warrior but we will see.

[Potato Cat]

I think is was confirmed that KE can summon weapons into the left hand, and it seems to be a tank mage in some aspects.

They said KE is much less tanky than arcane warrior. Right now, I'm thinking it'll be somewhere between a dual wielding rogue and a 2h warrior. Which works for me since I'll have Sera and my archer Inquisitor on ranged.

[MattH]

I had been thinking about that, but my PC mage will be taking Winter, so... xD  She's out of luck.

Mine is going full Knight Enchanter/Spirit  

[Karim_A]

OMG! If Vivienne is really a Knight Enchanter!!   Shown on the live stream Knight Enchanted has some pretty powerful skills. Will not post to avoid spoilers. 

[jlb524]

She'll be my mage no 1 for sure now.

Not that there was doubt.

[AlexiaRevan]

Hello Vivi fan I wanted to ask of you : was there ever (so far) a Vid..where we can hear Vivi voice ?? If so , can someone please give me a Link . She is the only one I have yet to hear her voice......... 

Thank you ! 

[jlb524]

Hello Vivi fan I wanted to ask of you : was there ever (so far) a Vid..where we can hear Vivi voice ?? If so , can someone please give me a Link . She is the only one I have yet to hear her voice......... 

Thank you ! 

 

Check out her VA's vid.  This is probably what Vivienne will sound like in game.

 

Here's a bit of her speaking in game.

[AlexiaRevan]

Thanx , but I already saw that one . And in game , they kinda work their voice to fit the text . So I'm guessing , so far....we didnt get to hear her voice at all ??? 

Awww....hopefully soon 

[MattH]

Thanx , but I already saw that one . And in game , they kinda work their voice to fit the text . So I'm guessing , so far....we didnt get to hear her voice at all ??? 

Awww....hopefully soon 

We've not heard clear speech from her ingame, but the video featuring her VA, those lines were specifically written by Mary Kirby to be incharacter for Vivienne, so it won't be far off 

Saying that, I'd love to hear some lines of dialogue featuring Viv, especially if a certain Tevinter mage is involved...

[AlexiaRevan]

'the dragon! Let make sure she leave us in one piece' is That Vivi saying that ???? cose...Im gonna faint.....

[Icy Magebane]

Didn't Vivienne have a line about Templars in the first Twitch demo?

[MattH]

Speaking of new lines from Vivienne, her voice features at the beginning of the new trailer