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The Vivienne Thread - more than just parlor tricks


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#4726
daveliam

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Two things:
 

1.)  I haven't posted my love for Vivienne in a while so it's way overdue.  This new gif of her is amazing.  She's really gorgeous and I suspect that her character is going to be polarizing and fascinating.  I really can't wait to meet her.

 

and

 

2.)  Vivienne would be mortified that her thread was on the <gasp> SECOND PAGE.  No respectable Orlesian in The Game ends up on the second page.......  Bumpity bump bump, my dear.



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Correct me if i am wrong, but... Doesn't title "Madame" mean that she have a husband?

#4728
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In French, yes, Madame if she is married,  Mademoiselle if she is no married.

 

But this is not dogmatic.

For exemple, a widow keeping her husband name can be called "madame".

Or a divorced woman could insist to be called again mademoiselle (meaning "i'm no married", "i'm free")

 

When you want to talk to women you don't know, you can use "madame" to be respectfull (better than "hey, you overthere"), and if she is young (teenager to, lets say 30) you can use "mademoiselle". In this case, even if "madame" is respectfull, it means the personne have a certain maturity, so it could hurt the pride of some women considering themself to look young enough to be called "mademoiselle" by stranger.

And of course, you never call female teenagers "madame".

 

So, it can lead to some funny introductions... let's say you see a female about 25 to 30 years old and you call her "Madame", if she does not complain, it's either because she is married, or single but she don't mind because it was a respectfull way to call her. If she answer you "maidemoiselle !"... it's either because she wants to show she is single, (if she is a feministe, she could take pride to be unmarried) or because she insist that she is not looking old enough to be called "madame".


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#4729
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Correct me if i am wrong, but... Doesn't title "Madame" mean that she have a husband?


IIRC modern French has somewhat removed the marriage restriction on using Madame (or at least, people are trying to). Mademoiselle (pl. Mesdamselles) is still specifically for unmarried females but I think it's mostly seen with girls. Very occasionally (mostly in old texts) you'll see mondemoiseau (pl. Mesdemoiseaux) for unmarried/young men, much like how you might see 'master' in English for the same reason.
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#4730
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Edit: double post

#4731
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She is really beautiful. The way she raises her eyebrows...

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*hide in the thread*  :ph34r:



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Correct me if i am wrong, but... Doesn't title "Madame" mean that she have a husband?

I'm not too sure about French but the title has a different meaning in Orlias. "The World of Thedas: Volume 1" it outlines the hierarchy of the Orlesian Empire. Vivienne has achieved the rank of Lady, which is officially addressed as "Madame du..." Vivienne as we know is Madame du Fer.  Quoted from the same using Madame is "Acceptable address for any nobility, no matter the rank, but not royalty"  

 

So from that it just shows that she is a respected within Orlais. Which is admirable considering that she is a mage. The book does not say that one has to be married though to have a title so maybe she isn't? 



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That should be put in spoiler tags. Some people would prefer not to know exactly the situation or characters involved. Actually I did not want to know myself. Please edit it. 



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Spoiler

 

Sorry Spoilers. Do not look at all......  It will spoil your gameplay.



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Could you please hide/edit the first spoiler post too?

nvm

#4737
Karim_A

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Thanks for the tags Akkos I know it was not intentionally done! :) 



#4738
Akkos

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Thanks for the tags Akkos I know it was not intentionally done! :)

LOLz... I actually thought some people were playing the game already. Forgot it was spoilery.



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This article is one known source for the above spoiler.


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This article is one known source for the above spoiler.


Wow! Sorry for not putting this in spoilers, but Vivienne is totally, 100% badass. :P
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I read up until they mentioned her then stopped reading. God damn it the spoilers will be the end of me yet my eyes refuse to look away.
Stupid eyes.

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I'm excited that it seems like we'll be able to get her pretty early


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#4743
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I read up until they mentioned her then stopped reading. God damn it the spoilers will be the end of me yet my eyes refuse to look away.
Stupid eyes.


You should have kept reading! The spoilers were particularly scrumptious! ;)

At least now I know where to rush to to get my one true love!
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#4744
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https://twitter.com/...026796268683265

 

Vivienne video incoming!  :wub:



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Oh wow. That was not expected at all..    Is it a VA video or something?

 

Indira Varma?  or just talk about Vivivienne...  Better if it's about both. I feel like I know nothing about her rather than her being vile, pragmatic and wicked.



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Oh wow. That was not expected at all..    Is it a VA video or something?

 

Indira Varma?  or just talk about Vivivienne...  Better if it's about both. I feel like I know nothing about her rather than her being vile, pragmatic and wicked.

It could be the CGI thing they teased last weekend.



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Vivienne Character Trailer!


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#4748
Karim_A

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Epic! Could have done without the marketing but Vivi!  :wub:



#4749
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An enormous blast rips the skies apart

Glass breaks and everything trembles

Vivienne gives no damns

Sorry, Fade, you've got nothing on this metal lady


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#4750
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Que fangirling in the middle of a crowded library.