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The Vivienne Thread - more than just parlor tricks


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#5101
Hanako Ikezawa

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I don't like how they literally have her laugh at the player when they ask about marriage.  <_<



#5102
raging_monkey

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So people dont like marriage or see it as a contract

#5103
Hanako Ikezawa

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So people dont like marriage or see it as a contract

That makes it okay to practically mock people who do? 



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raging_monkey

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Idk if she was mocking it but taking a pragmatic look at it. Like i said some see it as a contract. And she could just be discussing orlaisan marriages

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Akkos

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Idk if she was mocking it but taking a pragmatic look at it. Like i said some see it as a contract. And she could just be discussing orlaisan marriages

 

Lol have you watch Games of thrones, Rome, Any royal series?.....   If not then you won't understand this kind of pacts.



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Xilizhra

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That makes it okay to practically mock people who do? 

It's Vivienne, mockery is her style. You hardly have to think it's okay.


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I don't like how they literally have her laugh at the player when they ask about marriage.  <_<

She was laughing at the idea that a mage would be allowed to get married at all, much less to a Duke.

 

Mages cannot get married according to Chantry law. They can have all the sex they want, but their children are taken away from them as soon as they are born.


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#5108
herkles

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Lol have you watch Games of thrones, Rome, Any royal series?.....   If not then you won't understand this kind of pacts.

or like me study history :P marriages were about politics for the nobility.


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raging_monkey

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Lol have you watch Games of thrones, Rome, Any royal series?.....   If not then you won't understand this kind of pacts.

do the tudors count?

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Akkos

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do the tudors count?

 

yes, especially The Tudors, I loved it. But it was more about monarchy.

 

I mean it wasn't about political arrangements.



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Tevinter Rose

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All this new info on Viv is interesting. I'm getting Olivia Pope/Scandal vibes from her Duke situation lol. Can't wait to see how it all turns out



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raging_monkey

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All this new info on Viv is interesting. I'm getting Olivia Pope/Scandal vibes from her Duke situation lol. Can't wait to see how it all turns out

that show is awsome

#5113
ladyofpayne

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The reason Vivienne isn't romanceable:

 

Spoiler

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Spoiler

 

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ladyofpayne

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Spoiler

OH! He is father of Gaspard's wife. She is very power hungry.



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A pity we can't romance Vivienne, particularly since she's voiced by Indira Varma. :wub:



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I have not began to wrap my head around Viv being someone's side piece. I have a problem with this. I have a big problem with this.
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Tevinter Rose

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I have not began to wrap my head around Viv being someone's side piece. I have a problem with this. I have a big problem with this.

 

I'm not too thrilled about it either.


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Akkos

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-Sighs- Vivienne. I'm going to spend time dressing her.. From what I'm seeing in some streams these idiots are like giving her rags...... Instead of a good - clean battlemage armor



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I have not began to wrap my head around Viv being someone's side piece. I have a problem with this. I have a big problem with this.

 

Same.


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AresKeith

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I have not began to wrap my head around Viv being someone's side piece. I have a problem with this. I have a big problem with this.

 

I'm not too thrilled about it either.

 

What do you mean?



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I have not began to wrap my head around Viv being someone's side piece. I have a problem with this. I have a big problem with this.

 

Being a mistress does not necessarily mean your a sidepiece, and being a wife did necessarily mean that your the main thing. Back in our old times wife was usually just an alliance and heir maker, the mistress was for love/fun/all nice things most of the time. Sometimes the mistress was secretly pulling the strings because the man was in love with her. 

 

Plus a mistress is not bound to the man like a wife is. Leaving can be much easier.

I do find it fitting for Vivienne in my opinion, with her ambition, marriage is less flexible and can pull you down if you play politics wrong. And if I remember correctly mages are not allowed to (officially) marry, according to the Chantry/ Circle. 



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Tevinter Rose

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What do you mean?

 

i personally think it's just a cliche situation for her to be in imo. She's an interesting character, I guess I was just expecting something more unique. It's not making me like her less however, since it's too early to say how it will play out.


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herkles

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And if I remember correctly mages are not allowed to (officially) marry, according to the Chantry/ Circle. 

they can marry it is just rare for them to do so.



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my not liking her being a side piece doesn't change the fact that she's magic bae. I just don't like this from a representation perspective. i've said on numerous occasions i'd watch this character's development closely. If you are not me, or someone like me, you would be hard pressed to understand why that is not okay from a representation standpoint.
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