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#551
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Can people just not reply to things they suspect ate trills? If trolls get attention they stay. Do not reply to them, even if they reply to you.
Back to Viv, I know every outfit will transform to suit the wearer but what if we find some sort of peasants rag type thing. If we put it on her will it become a fashionable version or just... Explode?


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I'm not a troll.



#553
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I'm not a troll.

You know, if it makes you feel better, you could think of Vivienne as having a somewhat racially mixed background and gotten the blue eyes from somewhere else. Or, perhaps, certain genetic characteristics on Thedas are not identical to those on Earth.



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You know, if it makes you feel better, you could think of Vivienne as having a somewhat racially mixed background and gotten the blue eyes from somewhere else. Or, perhaps, certain genetic characteristics on Thedas are not identical to those on Earth.

 

In a game with horned giants, subterranean midgets and pointy-earred second-class citizens, you would have thought that people would be more accepting of such minor traits as blue eyes with dark skin.


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Or maybe it was a graphical mistake and her eyes will be brown in the finished product :v
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Or maybe it was a graphical mistake and her eyes will be brown in the finished product :v

They've said that the eye colors changing around is a glitch. So you'er probably right.



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Wait was that scene cut? I remember seeing it in the movie


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Did you guys see Viv spell where she slowed down time it was in the Dwarf Inquisitor demo on youtube I wonder if it will replace the Haste spell.   



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Did you guys see Viv spell where she slowed down time it was in the Dwarf Inquisitor demo on youtube I wonder if it will replace the Haste spell.   

 

I think it is meant to be the new Haste.  It uses up some global party resource called 'focus', IIRC.



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Did you guys see Viv spell where she slowed down time it was in the Dwarf Inquisitor demo on youtube I wonder if it will replace the Haste spell.   

Yep. Looks great.



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Yep. Looks great.

 

It is not Vivienne's spell actually. It is a party spell and requires a different resource altogether. Laidlaw mentions this in one of the interviews. This is a focus based spell and you can use it only you have accumulated enough focus. 

 

So it looks to be a party ultimate spell of sorts. 


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Are there any in-game pics of her without the gorgeous head-piece? 

 

I wonder if we will get to see that. I think she'd look so so so so so beautiful with really short hair.



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It is not Vivienne's spell actually. It is a party spell and requires a different resource altogether. Laidlaw mentions this in one of the interviews. This is a focus based spell and you can use it only you have accumulated enough focus. 
 
So it looks to be a party ultimate spell of sorts.

It's still a spell Vivienne/mages can use. Warrior and rogues would likely have access to other Focus talents.

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Are there any in-game pics of her without the gorgeous head-piece? 

 

I wonder if we will get to see that. I think she'd look so so so so so beautiful with really short hair.

 

Nothing in-game. The only image I saw of her without the head-piece had her bald or at least with extremely close-shaven hair.


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Nothing in-game. The only image I saw of her without the head-piece had her bald or at least with extremely close-shaven hair.

 

I hope they don't pull a Tali on us... Unless she always wears it and doesn't like people seeing her without head pieces... then that's all right.



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Nothing in-game. The only image I saw of her without the head-piece had her bald or at least with extremely close-shaven hair.


Noticed that Bioware, seem to take the easy road when it comes to hair.

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I hope they don't pull a Tali on us... Unless she always wears it and doesn't like people seeing her without head pieces... then that's all right.

 

I'm far too lazy to find it, sorry. But if I had to make a comparison, her hair was very much like Jack's for ME2.

 

Noticed that Bioware, seem to take the easy road when it comes to hair.

 

Well, why model it if she's going to be wearing the head-dress all the time? Although, that'd make a romance scene quite awkward...



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In a game with horned giants, subterranean midgets and pointy-earred second-class citizens, you would have thought that people would be more accepting of such minor traits as blue eyes with dark skin.

 

Acceptance isn't really the point and I have seen people argue that black people should be excluded from DA entirely with logic like that. 



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Acceptance isn't really the point and I have seen people argue that black people should be excluded from DA entirely with logic like that. 

 

... Wait, why would people argue in favour of excluding an entire race with that logic? All I am saying is that if those other races are possible, so is a fantastical combination of skin and eye colour.

 

But as was said, it's likely the apparent 'bug' of eye colours changing around.



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I hope they don't pull a Tali on us... Unless she always wears it and doesn't like people seeing her without head pieces... then that's all right.

 

Don't worry, it is confirmed that we can see her without her hat. I think it's just a marketting thing.

 

Also Mike Laidlaw said that for Cullen and Leliana the eyes color is a bug and it will be fixed while they are polishing the game. I bet it's the same for Vivienne. In all the pics, she has brown eyes. 



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... Wait, why would people argue in favour of excluding an entire race with that logic? All I am saying is that if those other races are possible, so is a fantastical combination of skin and eye colour.

 

But as was said, it's likely the apparent 'bug' of eye colours changing around.

 

"Thedas isn't our world and we haven't seen allot of black people in previous games, seeing as Thedas is meant to be like europe why would there even be black people?" ect

 

That kinda stuff. Anyway, I wasn't accusing you of that I was just pointing out that it being a fantasy world really doesn't change the issue of representation. 

 

It's possible but I can see why people would be a bit peeved if they have changed it, she had brown eyes before and then they decided to change it to blue, it would just seem a bit odd. I don't really mind that much personally but I liked the brown better.

 

It doesn't really matter what is and what isn't possible (it's a game so whatever the devs want to be possible is possible), the issue is representation of ethnic groups.


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Don't worry, it is confirmed that we can see her without her hat. I think it's just a marketting thing.

 

Also Mike Laidlaw said that for Cullen and Leliana the eyes color is a bug and it will be fixed while they are polishing the game. I bet it's the same for Vivienne. In all the pics, she has brown eyes. 

 

PHEW! 


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I'm far too lazy to find it, sorry. But if I had to make a comparison, her hair was very much like Jack's for ME2.
 

 
Well, why model it if she's going to be wearing the head-dress all the time? Although, that'd make a romance scene quite awkward...


I've been in relationships with clean cut women before, it's really no different though.

Although for once maybe Bioware can make a female with some hair. Seras ain't bad, just saying Bioware go for less instead of more most of the times

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Wow only on page 23? This thread needs more love here.



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Wow only on page 23? This thread needs more love here.

 

This is the second Viv thread. the last one got to 168 pages before we decided to move. http://forum.bioware...-talk-vivienne/

 

We still aren't one of the largest companion threads but I think we do ok.  :)

 

Vivienne is obviously an acquired taste. 


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