I don't trust her. She really seems like she has ulterior motives. Just look at all the game play footage of her. Even her animations and facial expressions are a clear tell that there is more to her than meets the eye, somehow.
Morrigan's face was like that until you melted her ice queen ways i guess the same will happen for Viv,lets just hope Viv does not want an OGB 
Morrigan's face was like that until you melted her ice queen ways i guess the same will happen for Viv,lets just hope Viv does not want an OGB
Maybe she does, I'd be willing to give her one 
Morrigan's face was like that until you melted her ice queen ways i guess the same will happen for Viv,lets just hope Viv does not want an OGB
Who knows, with you not being a Warden or anything, and because the game continues after you finish the main questline, perhaps they could include marriage as part of the romance arc ?
Who knows, with you not being a Warden or anything, and because the game continues after you finish the main questline, perhaps they could include marriage as part of the romance arc ?
StarWars had you marry your romance heck DAI could include that without showing anything but your LI saying she/he wants to get married.
Maybe she does, I'd be willing to give her one
Well the Inquisitor is a special snowflake with that green glowing hand maybe if you're a male Viv wants her version of an OGB 
It worries me that this lovely thread is becoming harder to find ... Wish Allan would bookmark it (bioware) like the old one .. hint hint.
It worries me that this lovely thread is becoming harder to find ... Wish Allan would bookmark it (bioware) like the old one .. hint hint.
Well the Inquisitor is a special snowflake with that green glowing hand maybe if you're a male Viv wants her version of an OGB
I doubt it. Her child would end up being her own competitor.
I doubt it. Her child would end up being her own competitor.
I think that even Vivienne realises that she isn't capable of living forever. She'll probably end up forcing what ambition she has on to her offspring, once she feels that she's getting too old to bring them about herself.
The other one was bookmarked?
Allan said it was his way of bookmarking threads, somewhere in the Solas thread, when a Bioware employee posts in the thread, it has this "Bioware" red label on it.
I think that even Vivienne realises that she isn't capable of living forever. She'll probably end up forcing what ambition she has on to her offspring, once she feels that she's getting too old to bring them about herself.
She doesn't seem like the legacy type to me. I think she's just interested in having as good of a life as possible. Once she's dead, why should she care about the world?
She doesn't seem like the legacy type to me. I think she's just interested in having as good of a life as possible. Once she's dead, why should she care about the world?
Do you think she'd be willing to die with the knowledge that she'll leave behind no mark on the world? She seems far too ambitious to let her plans die with her, whatever they might be.
I doubt it. Her child would end up being her own competitor.
Tis what exactly happened between Flemeth and Morrigan, no?
Have to admit such a twist although unlikely would be interesting. Would need a very very good reason, even better than the IQ dying.
Do you think she'd be willing to die with the knowledge that she'll leave behind no mark on the world? She seems far too ambitious to let her plans die with her, whatever they might be.
If the writers go down this route in-game, I have to admit that I'll be very disappointed. It's too reminiscent of Morrigan's storyline, even if the two characters have different motivations.
Allan said it was his way of bookmarking threads, somewhere in the Solas thread, when a Bioware employee posts in the thread, it has this "Bioware" red label on it.
If the writers go down this route in-game, I have to admit that I'll be very disappointed. It's too reminiscent of Morrigan's storyline, even if the two characters have different motivations.
I doubt we'll see it in game, I'm just thinking about the long run. When it comes to DA:I, she's one of the few characters that I have trouble thinking about. What could her personal quests possibly be?
I doubt we'll see it in game, I'm just thinking about the long run. When it comes to DA:I, she's one of the few characters that I have trouble thinking about. What could her personal quests possibly be?
Axing the rest of the mage leadership? 
Bookmarking means receiving notifications from that thread, I think. I thought you meant the former thread was sticked to the top of the forum.
Appologies. Can see my error there.
How far would you go with Vivienne's ambition?
It is known that ambition has no limits, and ambitious people will in most cases do anything to get ahead.
I know a lot of what we know so far is based off speculation, but every relationship has limits, at what point or what would be the final straw that would have you say "No Vivienne"?
How far would you go with Vivienne's ambition?
It is known that ambition has no limits, and ambitious people will in most cases do anything to get ahead.
I know a lot of what we know so far is based off speculation, but every relationship has limits, at what point or what would be the final straw that would have you say "No Vivienne"?
For my first Inquisitor, he won't care as long as she doesn't cross him but he will support mage freedom and hate the circle so I doubt she's going to be getting far with him.
My pro-Templar/circle Quizy might like her and she admires streangth ambition but if Vivienne is as harsh as she seems then they may disagree there.
Will Vivienne's personal ambitions even be that relevant to the Inquisition though? Sure if they restore the circles then that is good for her but it's not like the Inquisitor will be doing that because of her or anything.
I know a lot of what we know so far is based off speculation, but every relationship has limits, at what point or what would be the final straw that would have you say "No Vivienne"?
She is not making a fur coat out of dalmatian puppies on my watch.
My inquisitor will be ambitious, and respects ambition. It will be even better If I can play an Orlesian noble. I really don't see what could make me think she's crossing the line.
Vivienne being ruthless in the game for a better position ? check. I'm all for that baby, let me help you. I'd do the same for myself.
Vivienne having an agenda to keep her position, while doing the job for inquisition ? check. No issues with that, I totally understand.
I don't believe there would be something like Morrigan with the Obg thing, Vivienne is a pro-circle mage, first enchanter, and she doesn't like Cole because of what he is, she seems responsible. So like I said nothing tells me I could disagree with her there.
I thought I'd just pop in to play devil's advocate for Vivienne. It seems to me that when they make such a point of encouraging suspicion in a person it is to act as a red herring so you fail to notice the real villain.
Vivienne looks like Maleficent, keeps giving pointed looks and the voiceover asks "what is her true agenda?" Clearly nothing more sinister than she wants the Circles restored with her as Grand Enchanter. Plus probably a permanent advisory position on the council of the Inquisition. If Fiona doesn't die in the Big Bang then I imagine that Vivienne will be only too happy to rectify the mistake. I suppose it is just possible that she wants us to go in search of the Fountain of Youth.
Beyond that, I would look very carefully at the other companions. Whoever seems least likely to be a turncoat, that's your best bet.
I could say "No, Vivienne" all the Time. But then she would get angry at me. Or worse, she would get sad. I couldn't hold up if she would get sad.
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