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The Vivienne Thread - more than just parlor tricks


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Do you think she'd be willing to die with the knowledge that she'll leave behind no mark on the world? She seems far too ambitious to let her plans die with her, whatever they might be.


She's helping to save the world from demonic invasion and attempting to rebuild the Circle while securing her own place of power.

That is making a mark on the world.
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She's helping to save the world from demonic invasion and attempting to rebuild the Circle while securing her own place of power.

That is making a mark on the world.

 

Right. The "I Helped Stop The Apocalypse" bumper sticker is great PR. 


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Soooo... Hi, there! I've never been to this thread before, but...

 

Someone on the Twitter thread mentioned something about a "casual Vivienne."

 

:: contemplates Vivienne casual::

 

I... made a thing as a speed-drawing challenge. Hope you guys like it!

 

Spoiler


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#629
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My inquisitor will be ambitious, and respects ambition. It will be even better If I can play an Orlesian noble. I really don't see what could make me think she's crossing the line.

Vivienne being ruthless in the game for a better position ? check. I'm all for that baby, let me help you. I'd do the same for myself.
Vivienne having an agenda to keep her position, while doing the job for inquisition ? check. No issues with that, I totally understand.

I don't believe there would be something like Morrigan with the Obg thing, Vivienne is a pro-circle mage, first enchanter, and she doesn't like Cole because of what he is, she seems responsible. So like I said nothing tells me I could disagree with her there.

I get the feeling that as one refuses to say no to Vivienne often, the other companions might react accordingly.

Would be interesting ending up with an inquisition with no friends.

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For my first Inquisitor, he won't care as long as she doesn't cross him but he will support mage freedom and hate the circle so I doubt she's going to be getting far with him. 
 
My pro-Templar/circle Quizy might like her and she admires streangth ambition but if Vivienne is as harsh as she seems then they may disagree there. 
 
Will Vivienne's personal ambitions even be that relevant to the Inquisition though? Sure if they restore the circles then that is good for her but it's not like the Inquisitor will be doing that because of her or anything.


9/10 times I'm pro circle. I will also get along well with her when it comes to the circle.

Do you think then that someone as ambitious as Vivienne will make compromises? Or find a middle ground?

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I could say "No, Vivienne" all the Time. But then she would get angry at me. Or worse, she would get sad. I couldn't hold up if she would get sad.


I have a feeling she is the not the forgive and forget type, will rarely show emotion and will avoid sentimental moments, at least until one is able to break through that though persona, or romance her.

This lady is a lot of work, worth it!

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9/10 times I'm pro circle. I will also get along well with her when it comes to the circle.

Do you think then that someone as ambitious as Vivienne will make compromises? Or find a middle ground?

She will, or die. Assuming she doesn't want the mages to succeed.



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She doesn't seem like the legacy type to me. I think she's just interested in having as good of a life as possible. Once she's dead, why should she care about the world?

Well perhaps that's for the best; we all saw how the legacy obsession worked out for Tywin Lannister...

(Unless you're not a GoT person, in which case you probably didn't see that)



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Well perhaps that's for the best; we all saw how the legacy obsession worked out for Tywin Lannister...

(Unless you're not a GoT person, in which case you probably didn't see that)

 

He's fine, all of you non caught up People. Jumping around like in his Youth, smiling, laughing and occasionally pooping.



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I'm trying to pull some Vivienne related stuff from the raptr Q&A going on right now.

 

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Can we steal Vivienne and Empress Celene' dresses and wear it ourselves?

 

 

BioWareDAI  No - Mark
 
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How does the mage trio in this game get along? Are Solas and Dorian and Vivienne all at odds with each other?

 

BioWareDAI  They have different philosophies - Mark
 
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Not much so far...
 


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So now that we know Cass is straight, that makes Vivienne... bi?

 

I doubt they'll also make her straight. Wouldn't make sense. Of the three females, we could have one lesbian (Sera), one straight (Cass), and one bi (Viv). This seems likely to me at this point.



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So now that we know Cass is straight, that makes Vivienne... bi?
 
I doubt they'll also make her straight. Wouldn't make sense. Of the three females, we could have one lesbian (Sera), one straight (Cass), and one bi (Viv). This seems likely to me at this point.


Unless it's Scribbles who's the other LI. Which seems far more likely in my opinion. Hate to say it, but the only way I see Vivienne as romanceable is if they go 2/4/2.

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Unless it's Scribbles who's the other LI. Which seems far more likely in my opinion. Hate to say it, but the only way I see Vivienne as romanceable is if they go 2/4/2.

Possible, but as a companion, I believe Viv has a better chance of being a LI than Scribbles. In other words, it wouldn't surprise me if Scribbles wasn't even an option.



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Possible, but as a companion, I believe Viv has a better chance of being a LI than Scribbles. In other words, it wouldn't surprise me if Scribbles wasn't even an option.


Actually, Scribbles not being a companion boosts her chances in my opinion. Cullen is an NPC romance, so it makes sense that there should be a female NPC romance available too.

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Actually, Scribbles not being a companion boosts her chances in my opinion. Cullen is an NPC romance, so it makes sense that there should be a female NPC romance available too.

Maybe they'll both be options after all... though I don't really see that happening, for some reason. I just find it highly unlikely that Viv will NOT be an option considering all the fuss around her since last year.



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Maybe they'll both be options after all... though I don't really see that happening, for some reason. I just find it highly unlikely that Viv will NOT be an option considering all the fuss around her since last year.


I seriously hope you're right.

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I seriously hope you're right.

Never mind.

 

Scribbles is in apparently :lol:



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Is it true that we don't have an option to put Vivienne in something hideous just to mess with her

 

BioWareDA  All equipment on followers can be changed. But it will look consistent with that character's style - Mark
 
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There goes that hope. 


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Is it true that we don't have an option to put Vivienne in something hideous just to mess with her

 

BioWareDA  All equipment on followers can be changed. But it will look consistent with that character's style - Mark
 
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There goes that hope. 

 

Not surprised. It was the same in ME2/3.



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Never mind.
 
Scribbles is in apparently :lol:

Well, now I'm crying. Gotta pin all my hopes on the slim chance of a 2/4/2

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I'm giving up hope on the Viv romance.

 

I mean, if she's also bisexual, it's weird that they would confirm it for a character we don't even have a name for and not her.



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I'm giving up hope on the Viv romance.

 

I mean, if she's also bisexual, it's weird that they would confirm it for a character we don't even have a name for and not her.

 

I think they'd rather confirm an unnamed character than a named one.



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This is my first time posting in this thread so hi everyone. :)

Anyway we can still hold onto hope that she may be a bi option, but is most likely one of the race-gated ones.



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I'm giving up hope on the Viv romance.

 

I mean, if she's also bisexual, it's weird that they would confirm it for a character we don't even have a name for and not her.

 

Mark or Mike answered to someone who asked several questions, and of course he didn't answered about Vivi as LI, he avoided the question. Either it means that they keep the best for the end ( gaymer X for a revelation), or either it means that Vivi is definitely not an LI.

 

But, I can already claim, that the worst scenario for me seems to happen. Being stuck with one companion and a npc LI, and not even Vivienne lol.


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#650
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Wait, have y'all discussed Viv and Celene?