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oh god she's probably bi but racegated but WHICH RACES THO

 

She would be one of the race-gated imo...then one of the males.

 

Could be humans only.

 

If that's the case then its likely to be either Cass or Vivi that has the race-gated romance, more likely Vivi due to her status.

 
I don't think Cass or Sera will be race-gated (they are already gated by gender).  Josephine isn't gated at all.  Viv being race-gated would be balanced I guess.
 
One of the males will probably be race-gated.  idk, Varric?


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What if she is class-gated? Is that ruled out?

 

Mage only, perhaps?



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Think they'll wait until GaymerX to announce the remaining LIs? I'll be tied to my computer all weekend. It'll be E3 all over again



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She would be one of the race-gated imo...then one of the males.

 

Could be humans only.

 

 
I don't think Cass or Sera will be race-gated (they are already gated by gender).  Josephine isn't gated at all.  Viv being race-gated would be balanced I guess.
 
One of the males will probably be race-gated.  idk, Varric?

 

 

Either Varric or Iron Bull due to qunari/dwarf proportions. Given the likely popularity of the qunari as a playable race and Iron Bull being massive in comparison to the other characters, I'm going with Iron Bull.

 

Unless of course Vivi is not race-gated and it just happens that two male characters are race gated. In that case its definitely both Varric/Solas and IB. In IB's case its more likely he will not be gender gated but rather restricted to qunari. With Varric I'm guessing he'll only be available to female dwarves if he's the LI (saw no hints of him being attracted to men, sorry), if it's Solas I'm assuming he'd be gated towards elves/non-humans.

 

It's conflicting because another Tweet suggested you can 'try' to romance Iron Bull, which suggests he's like Vega/Samara (a flirt option but not an LI). If Iron Bull is not an LI, that leaves Vivienne, Varric, Solas and Blackwall. I can understand Varric's romance being gated due to characterization (Varric not being into humans) and I can imagine Vivienne not having a favorable view of elves/non-humans, or at least not being attracted to them. Can't see any reason Blackwall would be gated unless there's more to him and Solas seems the open minded sort.

 

Its confusing. I hope BioWare just releases the romance charts so we can be done with the speculation already. :angry:



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What if she is class-gated? Is that ruled out?

 

Mage only, perhaps?

 

I think she'll be gated just from dwarves because of their magic resistance.

 

Dirty spells don't work on them.

 

 

Think they'll wait until GaymerX to announce the remaining LIs? I'll be tied to my computer all weekend. It'll be E3 all over again

 

It's possible.


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Just gonna leave this here to give you guys some hope


++ thanks.

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I haven't been following every page of this thread, so perhaps this is old news...but Vivienne is confirmed to be of Rivaini ancestry.

 

It was mentioned in this thread.



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I haven't been following every page of this thread, so perhaps this is old news...but Vivienne is confirmed to be of Rivaini ancestry.

 

It was mentioned in this thread.

Not to insult anyone, but uh.....this wasn't obvious?



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I haven't been following every page of this thread, so perhaps this is old news...but Vivienne is confirmed to be of Rivaini ancestry.

 

It was mentioned in this thread.

 

Thanks, I'll add it to the OP somewhere.



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Cool i wonder if she cares for her homeland

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Cool i wonder if she cares for her homeland

 

Gaider said she's of Rivaini ancestry rather than saying she is from Rivain, so its also possible she is an Orlesian born to Rivaini expats.

 

I'm hoping she was born in Rivain though, as it would explain the English-sounding accent. I like my Orlesians sounding French. B)



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With the confirmation that all eight "main LIs" are from Companions/Advisors I am very sure that Vivienne is available. Could imagine her being one of the bisexual racegated LI's, to Qunari and Humans. Could also imagine Elves and Dwarves getting Varric in return. That would be extremely awesome.


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Yay!!! She's still in the running!

Elves are definitely gated for her.


She's in Celene's court, so maybe she likes elves. It matters not to me though, I want her for my human.

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At first I wasn't too sure that Vivienne would be a LI, but I don't know now. Especially, since that tweet, but I hope to still be able to flirt with her even if she isn't into dwarves. But, they said that the two of the romance are race-gated because of story reasons, so I think it would be Varric and Vivienne. Vivienne, because she lives in Orlais, and they are very judgemental about stuff like that. I think Vivienne won't romance elves and Qunari. Elves, because of how Celene never made her relationship public with Briala, and also because of the elves rebellion, and they know how Vivienne is close to Celene! Qunari, because people are already suspicious about them!

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At first I wasn't too sure that Vivienne would be a LI, but I don't know now. Especially, since that tweet, but I hope to still be able to flirt with her even if she isn't into dwarves. But, they said that the two of the romance are race-gated because of story reasons, so I think it would be Varric and Vivienne. Vivienne, because she lives in Orlais, and they are very judgemental about stuff like that. I think Vivienne won't romance elves and Qunari. Elves, because of how Celene never made her relationship public with Briala, and also because of the elves rebellion, and they know how Vivienne is close to Celene! Qunari, because people are already suspicious about them!

Wait which tweet? IS SHE STILL IN THE RUNNING!?!?



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Wait which tweet? IS SHE STILL IN THE RUNNING!?!?

Here's the wonderful post
http://forum.bioware...ead/?p=16917471

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Why does everyone think she wont romance elves? Sure it might "look bad" but so would romancing a Qunari in fact she is a mage so any romance would "look bad" to some. Another mage or a human noble are probably the least scandalous options but everything else is scandalous. 

 

So are we saying Vivienne is racist against elves? 



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At first I wasn't too sure that Vivienne would be a LI, but I don't know now. Especially, since that tweet, but I hope to still be able to flirt with her even if she isn't into dwarves. But, they said that the two of the romance are race-gated because of story reasons, so I think it would be Varric and Vivienne. Vivienne, because she lives in Orlais, and they are very judgemental about stuff like that. I think Vivienne won't romance elves and Qunari. Elves, because of how Celene never made her relationship public with Briala, and also because of the elves rebellion, and they know how Vivienne is close to Celene! Qunari, because people are already suspicious about them!

 

I guess that could be the case. 


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Why does everyone think she wont romance elves? Sure it might "look bad" but so would romancing a Qunari in fact she is a mage so any romance would "look bad" to some. Another mage or a human noble are probably the least scandalous options but everything else is scandalous. 
 
So are we saying Vivienne is racist against elves?


I highly doubt she is. Raised in the Circles, she'll probably view them as equals. If she was racist, she wouldn't join an elf's Inquisition.
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Why does everyone think she wont romance elves? Sure it might "look bad" but so would romancing a Qunari in fact she is a mage so any romance would "look bad" to some. Another mage or a human noble are probably the least scandalous options but everything else is scandalous. 

 

So are we saying Vivienne is racist against elves? 

Maybe not racist. Just very snooty and picky. :D


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Here's the wonderful post
http://forum.bioware...ead/?p=16917471

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8 WITHIN!?!? Since we can't count Leliana that means that 3 more companions need to be released... right? *tearbends*

 

Vivienne could definitely be one of them :D


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8 WITHIN!?!? Since we can't count Leliana that means that 3 more companions need to be released... right? *tearbends*
 
Vivienne could definitely be one of them :D


Especially if they do have equal distribution among the genders. Which I recall Gaider saying would only do in a blog post. As for sexualties, it's probably 2/4/2, for the same reason. Meaning Vivienne and Josephine are probably the female bisexual LIs. Which is perfect for me. The perfect bisexual icons, (for me).

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Especially if they do have equal distribution among the genders. Which I recall Gaider saying would only do in a blog post. As for sexualties, it's probably 2/4/2, for the same reason. Meaning Vivienne and Josephine are probably the female bisexual LIs. Which is perfect for me. The perfect bisexual icons, (for me).

Oh yeah, I definitely agree! They are because we don't know much about their pasts, and just because they're really hot (for me) doesn't mean they're like straight or something. Bisexual = more the merrier



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Spreading Hope - I think, my Theory about the LineUp isn't that bad.

 

Non-gated, bisexual Male: Iron Bull.

Yes, I know he is said not to hop into Bed with someone he could break, but I think at some Point the Inquisitor will definitely qualify as such, no matter of Race.

 

Gated bisexual Male: Varric.

He said he wasn't into Humans and DwarfxQunari is said to be difficult to animate, so he would be available to Dwarves and Elves.

 

Gated bisexual Female: Vivienne.

I can't see her as a Power Player being into Elves at all. She also wears a horned Hat, which I take as Evidence of her Affinity to Qunari. Thus, she will be available to Humans and Qunari.

 

This Line-Up would also support the Statement that some may have more Options than others:

Gay Male Humans and Qunari would "only" have Iron Bull and Dorian.

Lesbian Female Elves and Dwarves would "only" have Sera and Josephine.

Everyone else would have three Options.


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Spreading Hope - I think, my Theory about the LineUp isn't that bad.

 

Non-gated, bisexual Male: Iron Bull.

Yes, I know he is said not to hop into Bed with someone he could break, but I think at some Point the Inquisitor will definitely qualify as such, no matter of Race.

 

Gated bisexual Male: Varric.

He said he wasn't into Humans and DwarfxQunari is said to be difficult to animate, so he would be available to Dwarves and Elves.

 

Gated bisexual Female: Vivienne.

I can't see her as a Power Player being into Elves at all. She also wears a horned Hat, which I take as Evidence of her Affinity to Qunari. Thus, she will be available to Humans and Qunari.

 

*snip*

I agree with you on IB #ridethebull

I think that Varric might be straight, idk tho, I just have a feeling.

I agree with you on Vivienne, because she gets along with Iron Bull, so she's not completely against Qunari, that we've seen.


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