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The Vivienne Thread - more than just parlor tricks


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#751
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I am starting to believe that she is not romanceable. Mainly because it is weird that all other romanceable character were announced when they were introduced and Vivienne was not. While I want to hold out hope I will take the Garrus approach at this time

 

"I like to expect the worst, there's a small chance I'll be pleasantly suprised."

 

Trying to soften the blow and take some joy that she will be my bestie and I will enjoy the shade that Vivienne and Dorian will throw at people with Varric making jokes....I'll do a cartwheels in my head if she can be my lady though  :wub: 



#752
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Not to insult anyone, but uh.....this wasn't obvious?

 

I always suspected she was Rivaini. 

 

But there were some who preferred her to just be Orlesian. There were differences of opinion on whether black people in Thedas should be Rivaini, or have ancestry from any nation in Thedas.



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I am starting to believe that she is not romanceable. Mainly because it is weird that all other romanceable character were announced when they were introduced and Vivienne was not. While I want to hold out hope I will take the Garrus approach at this time

 

"I like to expect the worst, there's a small chance I'll be pleasantly suprised."

 

Trying to soften the blow and take some joy that she will be my bestie and I will enjoy the shade that Vivienne and Dorian will throw at people with Varric making jokes....I'll do a cartwheels in my head if she can be my lady though  :wub: 

Cassandra wasn't confirmed as a romance option when she was announced way back when



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I am starting to believe that she is not romanceable. Mainly because it is weird that all other romanceable character were announced when they were introduced and Vivienne was not. While I want to hold out hope I will take the Garrus approach at this time

 

"I like to expect the worst, there's a small chance I'll be pleasantly suprised."

 

Trying to soften the blow and take some joy that she will be my bestie and I will enjoy the shade that Vivienne and Dorian will throw at people with Varric making jokes....I'll do a cartwheels in my head if she can be my lady though  :wub: 

 

Well, if we follow that Logic, we would only have five Romances maximum. But we have eight.



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"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

"A dragon(!), let's be sure she leaves us in one piece."

 

 

.... UGH. I can't figure it out.



#756
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Well, if we follow that Logic, we would only have five Romances maximum. But we have eight.

Exactly, and Sheryl C. said that there would be 8 romances within the companions and advisers. So at this point it would be shocking not to see Vivienne as a romance


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Gaider on record that they prioritized fairness in gender and orientation, so I think she's in.


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#758
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I can't see anyone else filling the position of 4th female LI right now. But it would mean that all 4 romances for straight men are human, which is a shame.



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Seems like the inequality in romance options for a few (or maybe just one) specific race/gender/orientation that Gaider mentioned is probably because of the race gated characters. I think Viv is most likely a romance. 

 

^_^



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I just found Vivienne's Theme Song!!!!

Spoiler


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Cassandra wasn't confirmed as a romance option when she was announced way back when

 

 I remember it being announced " Hey Varric & Cassandra are in this game" okay cool, then they did the writer interviews and that was when I found out certain characters were romanceable. If it was announced you can romance them before that I missed it.



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So to me, it looks like the LIs are going to be as follows:

Cassandra
Josephine
Vivienne
Sera

Cullen
Iron Bull (thinking he'll be race gated due to dwarf/qunari trouble)
Blackwall (purely for the Calling angst, and all those little hints)
Dorian

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#763
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Her voice is a little softer and innocent, compared to the Crestwood demo! I preferred the Crestwood version! "I'm never out of my element."

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 I remember it being announced " Hey Varric & Cassandra are in this game" okay cool, then they did the writer interviews and that was when I found out certain characters were romanceable. If it was announced you can romance them before that I missed it.

same, me too



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I just found Vivienne's Theme Song!!!!

 

*snip

 

Marina is sooo under rated.  -_-

 

Also I agree this song is incredibly Vivienne, (Only Viv would never admit it)  :wub:


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So to me, it looks like the LIs are going to be as follows:

Cassandra
Josephine
Vivienne
Sera

Cullen
Iron Bull (thinking he'll be race gated due to dwarf/qunari trouble)
Blackwall (purely for the Calling angst, and all those little hints)
Dorian

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They said 1 of the 8 romances is not a companion nor an adviser 



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They said 1 of the 8 romances is not a companion nor an adviser 

 

No, Sheryl Chee said this:

 


"There is at least one character who is not a companion or an advisor whom you can flirt with. When Cameron said that there were eight romances, he was referring to eight romances within the companions and advisors. So, rejoice or not as you see fit."


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#768
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No, Sheryl Chee said this:

 Ah didn't know lol



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They said 1 of the 8 romances is not a companion nor an adviser 

 

Sheryl Chee confirmed that this wasn't true. Apparently you can flirt with someone who isn't a companion or an adviser but all 8 romances are either companions or advisers. 

 

Seeing as Leliana isn't a romance that meand 3 more companions are Li's and Viv is the only female companion who isn't already a confirmed LI.

 

Ninja'd by the bird!  :ph34r:


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 Ah didn't know lol

 

And now you do :)

I think I'll go with "rejoice", by the way.


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This is reposted from another thread, but this is generally why I think Vivienne will be race-gated

Vivienne is a prominent person in Orlais no? If there's one thing we know about Orlais elves aren't looked on very highly there and that should be especially true now that there is a bit of an elven rebellion going on. Qunari are generally feared throughout Thedas, Inquisitor or no that might not exactly be the best thing for her reputation. Dwarves are a little gray and could go either way. Anyways it basically comes down to her reputation which seems to be very important to her ad she doesn't strike me as the type of person who would give it up for "love"



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I had a feeling the non-companion/advisor "romance" wouldn't be one of our eight.  Huzzah for Viv being likely again!  Fingers crossed for my qunari lady.


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#773
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Here is what I'm thinking:

 

 

 

It's unlikely (not sure) that Blackwall will be a romance because he's fairly old and tainted. (once again not sure)

 

Iron Bull will probably be a romance.

 

Varric might be a LI as well.

 

So it's either Solas or Vivienne. They said they would pay attention to gender/ sexuality equality over races right? (Even though they may have meant that more toward player-race gating)

 

Solas is in his 40's (early-middle aged), and we already have an Elf romance, Sera.

 

Vivienne on the other hand is incredibly attractive, and young looking. We also need to balance out that there are more male romance options at this point, so Vivienne become the likely choice.



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This is reposted from another thread, but this is generally why I think Vivienne will be race-gated
 

So she'd be an utter racist ******? At that point, I'd wonder if they were trying to make her as unappealing as possible.



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So she'd be an utter racist ******? At that point, I'd wonder if they were trying to make her as unappealing as possible.

 

IMO I think she's just that way, maybe, to preserve her VERY important reputation, as some races are "lesser" to some Orlesians.

 

But unappealing? Mission = failed ;)