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#1051
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From what I've read, most Moors in Spain were Arabs and Berbers.

 

BTW, Zevran has dark skin tone too. Maybe he died his hair.

 

And isn't Rivain more like India, at least when it comes to its inhabitants?

No, Riviain is based off of Spain culturally but ethnically, you will see a lot people like Vivienne, black. Also, Isabella is black and she is from Rivain. Duncan is half Rivaini so he's half black.



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*pops on over*

For you guys. Enjoy! :D

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PS I hope I did her justice


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#1053
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 man I wish I could draw like that... :/


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#1054
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No, Riviain is based off of Spain culturally but ethnically, you will see a lot people like Vivienne, black. Also, Isabella is black and she is from Rivain. Duncan is half Rivaini so he's half black.

 

Black with white facial features. So if Vivienne isn't romanceable, then the only woman to whom "traditional", Caucasian standards of beauty don't adhere to, is also the only woman that's not romanceable.



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Black with white facial features. So if Vivienne isn't romanceable, then the only woman to whom "traditional", Caucasian standards of beauty don't adhere to, is also the only woman that's not romanceable.

White facial features is a misnomer, she has a mix of western African and eastern African facial features as opposed to the softer more eastern African facial features we had received so far.



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White facial features is a misnomer, she has a mix of western African and eastern African facial features as opposed to the softer more eastern African facial features we had received so far.

Nope, Isabela and Duncan look more like people from India. And if those characters were 'whitewashed', as there are many such mods just changing skin tone, then they would look completely OK with their features as white.



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Nope, Isabela and Duncan look more like people from India. And if those characters were 'whitewashed', as there are many such mods just changing skin tone, then they would look just OK.

Duncan always struck me as having a more Mediterranean look rather than an Indian one, and Isabella as being a mix of eastern African and Mediterranean when it came to appearance.



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2 characters left which are probably the race gated ones since Iron Bull is Bi and anyone can romance him hoping for Viv to be next B)    



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Yes, lets hope Viv is a romance! Or I am gonna be mad!



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I really like that fanart. Very good job. B)


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yep but she will be race gated :wacko:



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Black with white facial features. So if Vivienne isn't romanceable, then the only woman to whom "traditional", Caucasian standards of beauty don't adhere to, is also the only woman that's not romanceable.

Isabella is black but with white facial features? Yes but only because the Eclipse engine couldn't make her look black.



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Duncan always struck me as having a more Mediterranean look rather than an Indian one, and Isabella as being a mix of eastern African and Mediterranean when it came to appearance.

Duncan is half so yeah, he wouldn't have strong black features but he was black. And East Africans are still dark skinned people.



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yep but she will be race gated :wacko:

 

Does not matter, I like playing as a human anyway. Although it must suck for others.. :/



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White facial features is a misnomer, she has a mix of western African and eastern African facial features as opposed to the softer more eastern African facial features we had received so far.

East African people are still dark skinned people.



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Does not matter, I like playing as a human anyway. Although it must suck for others.. :/

If she's racegated, it means she's a far weaker person than I'd hoped.



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Wtf did I just read about black and white? First skin tones have a spectrum, there is no just thing as white and black in a sense of extremes. Vivienne clearly has a more darker tone than Isabela but both in real life could be "latinas"(which is a definition I hate to use for a lot of reasons). To me Antiva is more close to some parts of Spain, like the north and Rivani is more close to south of Portugal, Algarve and Granada from Spain, which are the places that Moors influence the most. 

Also Zevran being blond and dark skinned is not news in the south of Europe, nor it is, in other parts of the world.



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Updated romance chart!!!
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As you can see, Vivienne is basically confirmed if they are doing equal genders. 


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It's a complicated discussion and you should be careful not to offend others (ofc it's not always easy). There are no black or white facial features, you could say someone has more western looking features or more African looking features in a general sort of way but those two area's do have a wide verity of features. 

 

Vivienne is on the dark side and she has more African features (cheekbones, jaw line, lips) but a woman who didn't have those is not less black because of that and how dark or light a person is doesn't make them more or less black either. Black is more of a cultural identity than a classification. 

 

There is some prejudice both outside and inside of black communities against darker women so it's nice if they are represented. Whether or not Vivienne is romanceable doesn't make a massive difference to that though (in my opinion). I guess you could say that it shows bioware see her as an attractive desirable person but I already know they wouldn't leave her out for being (too dark) so it matters not, to me. 


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Updated romance chart!!!
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As you can see, Vivienne is basically confirmed if they are doing equal genders. 

 

I doubt Blackwall will be, Solas would make more sense or even Varric. Also I would be happy with Vivienne being a romance but ****** at the same time. They should have done more female companions, this **** could had been avoided. 



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It feels like everybody is celebrating the IB news, but I'm over here waiting to hear about Vivienne like:

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It feels like everybody is celebrating the IB news, but I'm over here waiting to hear about Vivienne like:

I'm there with you, but I need another reaction image... something less placid.



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Same here, still waiting. :/



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I'm waiting like this: 

 

angry-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shaki

 

I thought she would be announced alongside a male bisexual reveal. Maybe next week?


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#1075
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We still do not even know her VA, I doubt romance is in the agenda.