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[Alixen]

I'm trying to work it out, because she gives the impression of being somewhat worldly (understandably, given her past) behind the peace her faith has given her. Also, i'd like to know who is the older in relationships with the Warden, just out of interest.

 

According to the timeline, she too refuge in the chantry in 9:28. Two years later, in 9:30, Dragon Age: Origins begins. However, in Leliana's song, she is at the very least as old as the youngest of Wardens, and yet can save the City Elf's mother. I was under the impression that the City Elf's mother was long dead, as of the start of DA:O? Though it has been a while since I played that one, despite it being my favorite, along side the Dalish Elf.

 

Leliana's song of course muddies a lot of things, though i suppose we are supposed to take it as the true story, wheras the one she tells the Warden is sanitised and made far away.

 

Do we simply have an age 'range' that she fits into, or can we pinpoint it a little more accuratly?

[Snook]

IIRC the toolset gave an age range of somewhere around 26, I think. Though I could be remembering that from nowhere. 

 

But in any event I'd say mid to late 20s is the best guess.

[DeathScepter]

i do remember if you were a City Elf and she become a bit of a Cougar. Is that a bad thing?

[Alixen]

No. Not a bad thing at all. I like my traditional romance well enough, but Leliana being the (softly) persuasive seductress was a nice breath of fresh air.

 

So, she tells Wynne that she is older than she looks, and we know she met the City Elfs mother in her DLC. That... sorta helps? Twenty six might be right, but are the 'ages' in the toolset accurate?

[sylvanaerie]

She only says she's older than she looks to Wynne, and seems pretty young in Leliana's Song.  

 

If I were guessing I'd say late 20s.  Maybe as old as 30 (Fergus' age) though not much more than that.

[Undead Han]

 

Leliana's song of course muddies a lot of things, though i suppose we are supposed to take it as the true story, wheras the one she tells the Warden is sanitised and made far away.

 

 

I think it is the opposite, actually. I think the tale she tells the Warden is the true one, and in the DLC she is pulling a Varric.

[Alixen]

As there is nothing to contradict the Toolset in this case, i'll settle for a tentative 26. Maybe up to around 28.

 

Interesting, Han. Any indication of that being the case, in game?

 

Frankly, I think Bioware should have waited til they had Orlais in a game before doing the DLC, rather than telling it in Fereldan with the existing assets because they were there. Leliana is still popular enough, after all.

[ShadowLordXII]

early 30s? late 20s?

 

I've never played Leliana's song so what age is she there and when does the dlc take place in relation with the main game? (5,10 or even 15 years before origins?)

[Alixen]

Only one or two years. There is a limit to how old she can be; someone pointed out that she was born after her mother left for Orlais with her mistress. This occurred after the Orlesians pulled out of Ferelden, I believe? This means she can't be over thirty.

[themikefest]

Early to mid 30's

 

What does it matter? Age is a number and from what I see in DAI she looks good

[Blazomancer]

Yup, above 30 is not possible provided what she says to the warden is true.

[Jeffonl1]

Yup, above 30 is not possible provided what she says to the warden is true.

And that's the rub.... Bards don't lie right?

[Undead Han]

As there is nothing to contradict the Toolset in this case, i'll settle for a tentative 26. Maybe up to around 28.

 

Interesting, Han. Any indication of that being the case, in game?

 

Frankly, I think Bioware should have waited til they had Orlais in a game before doing the DLC, rather than telling it in Fereldan with the existing assets because they were there. Leliana is still popular enough, after all.

 

The deciding factor for me is the context in which both versions of the tale are being told. In DA:O the details are mostly revealed in heartfelt conversations with the Warden, who is potentially a lover. In the DLC the story starts and ends with Leliana narrating in a manner similar to Varric, as if she is playing the role of a bard and attempting to regale an audience with the tale rather than spilling her guts in an intimate conversation with a close friend or lover.

 

Also IIRC doesn't she either begin or end the tale (in the DLC) by saying something along the lines of "...most of the details are true." It has been awhile but I could have sworn I remember there being a hint that like Varric, she might have changed a few details to suit the audience.

 

In any case the context alone seals for it me. 

[theskymoves]

I fall into the 'what Leliana tells the Warden is a self-serving half-truth, and what we see in the DLC is her actual past' camp. What seals it for me is the very specific detail of meeting Adaia (Tabris) in the dungeon, which could not have happened, if the events occured in Orlais.

 

(And to offer an opinion on the OP's question, closer to 30 than 25.)

[SofiaK110]

From her voice I think over 20 and under 30

[Nuclear]

Late 20's is the safest estimate. So by DA:I she's late 30's going on 40. She's a textbook example of ageing like fine wine

[Alixen]

City Elf is married out basically at the age of consent, as far as we can tell from the Origin, as is the tradition to keep the blood of the alienage varied as possible. The city elf is likely somewhere between 16 to 18, so as to be more politically correct than the probable likely age in a dark-age type setting, and Leliana is potentially between 26 to 30 as has been established in this thread (and others, now i've searched deeper). Anywhere from eight to twelve years older than the Elf warden, and very much more worldly wise than someone who has spent their time in a small community for most of their life.

 

As i note above, I find this a breath of fresh air. It's nice to be seduced for a change, rather than having to have my character pursue with almost stalker like tenacity. 'Oh, Shepard, i've not seen you in at least... well, it has to have been ten minutes. No, i'm sorry, I still don't have any new dialog for you to read.' 

[Orberon]

Mid 20's is a guess.I'd like top know all the human cast ages to be honest, Duncan, Alistair, Morrigan, Avaline, 

[Xilizhra]

The deciding factor for me is the context in which both versions of the tale are being told. In DA:O the details are mostly revealed in heartfelt conversations with the Warden, who is potentially a lover. In the DLC the story starts and ends with Leliana narrating in a manner similar to Varric, as if she is playing the role of a bard and attempting to regale an audience with the tale rather than spilling her guts in an intimate conversation with a close friend or lover.

 

Also IIRC doesn't she either begin or end the tale (in the DLC) by saying something along the lines of "...most of the details are true." It has been awhile but I could have sworn I remember there being a hint that like Varric, she might have changed a few details to suit the audience.

 

In any case the context alone seals for it me. 

 

I fall into the 'what Leliana tells the Warden is a self-serving half-truth, and what we see in the DLC is her actual past' camp. What seals it for me is the very specific detail of meeting Adaia (Tabris) in the dungeon, which could not have happened, if the events occured in Orlais.

 

(And to offer an opinion on the OP's question, closer to 30 than 25.)

I think there's a simpler explanation: the story she tells you in the main game was meant to be true, but when the time came to do the DLC, they determined it'd be far more cost-effective to use old assets than to make new ones in Orlais, so they changed the setting to Ferelden. So I think it's safe to say that Leliana's Song is a retcon, and that the (true) story she tells the Warden actually takes place in Ferelden.

[theskymoves]

Mid 20's is a guess.I'd like top know all the human cast ages to be honest, Duncan, Alistair, Morrigan, Avaline, 

 

Alistair is 20 during the events of DAO. (Per The World of Thedas timeline.) (And Cailan is 5 years older, and Anora is about 5 years older than Cailan.) Duncan is... probably 40-ish? He's quite young during The Calling, so 20 years on from that.

 

Morrigan's toolset age is 30, which I've never seen any reason to question.... her voice acting and demeanour are clearly that of a mature woman. IMO.