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[luna1124]

I have no idea, but my guess would be about 28.

[Undead Han]

I fall into the 'what Leliana tells the Warden is a self-serving half-truth, and what we see in the DLC is her actual past' camp. What seals it for me is the very specific detail of meeting Adaia (Tabris) in the dungeon, which could not have happened, if the events occured in Orlais.

 

(And to offer an opinion on the OP's question, closer to 30 than 25.)

 

Does she really meet Adaia however, or is that part of the embellishment?

 

 

Xilizhra, on 30 Jun 2014 - 08:13 AM, said:

I think there's a simpler explanation: the story she tells you in the main game was meant to be true, but when the time came to do the DLC, they determined it'd be far more cost-effective to use old assets than to make new ones in Orlais, so they changed the setting to Ferelden. So I think it's safe to say that Leliana's Song is a retcon, and that the (true) story she tells the Warden actually takes place in Ferelden.

 

I agree with the bolded bit, but since Leliana's Song is a prequel I don't think it quite works as a retcon. You are left with either Leliana spinning a tall tale in the DLC or later lying to the Warden. 

[sylvanaerie]

I think the truth may lie somewhere in the middle of both stories. 

 

What part is she lying about to the warden?  She said Marjolaine betrayed the Orlesians (and later herself) and she was captured and tortured because of it.  The story she gives the warden in origins is a brief run down.  For Leliana's Song, Bioware expanded on the story.  And some of that may not be wholly the truth either. 

 

She's a bard, embellishing the truth is kind of her stock and trade, but the core is still the same.  She was young, impressionable and betrayed by someone she loved who she thought loved her.

[Xilizhra]

I agree with the bolded bit, but since Leliana's Song is a prequel I don't think it quite works as a retcon. You are left with either Leliana spinning a tall tale in the DLC or later lying to the Warden. 

I don't see a reason for either one to be a lie, but I really don't see the point of saying that she met Adaia when she didn't.

[iOnlySignIn]

Age is a number

 

[PatrickStewart]And the number I'm thinking of is two hundred dollars![/PatrickStewart]

 

Seriously though, I think it is pretty well-established by now that Leliana is immortal. Of the unkillable, eternal youth variety.

[gottaloveme]

Leliana would not be the most reliable of narrators considering her bardic past and her association with the Chantry Seekers. So to me, both stories are suspect.

 

I would put her at around 28ish. Duncan 40ish. Cailan 28ish. Teagan 30ish. Wynne 99ish . The babies (Alistair and femCousland) 21ish.

 

But what about Oran and Connor. I think Connor about 10 - 12? Oran maybe 7 - 8? Flemeth - about a coupla thousand?

 

This is mostly how it feels to me more than anything else.

[themikefest]

[PatrickStewart]And the number I'm thinking of is two hundred dollars![/PatrickStewart]

 

Seriously though, I think it is pretty well-established by now that Leliana is immortal. Of the unkillable, eternal youth variety.

What does $200 have to do with age?

[iOnlySignIn]

What does $200 have to do with age?

 

'Tis a joke told by Patrick Stewart's character in American Dad. I suppose it's too obscure.

[themikefest]

'Tis a joke told by Patrick Stewart's character in American Dad. I suppose it's too obscure.

I don't watch American Dad.

[TheWardenBrothers1701]

I worked out a personal age canon for a story I'm writing which has Leliana at 24 in Origins (as she says she's older than she looks, I guessed 22 off the top of my head for her initially) and so 11 years later in Inquisition she is 35, two years more with Trespasser I have her at 37 in current time.

 

And as just another note as Morrigan was brought up, I have her at 25 in Origins, 36 in Inquisition, and 38 as of Trespasser.

[Illegitimus]

Yup, above 30 is not possible provided what she says to the warden is true.

 

I think above 30 is overdoing it given her looks in Inquisition.  36 in Inquisition I can buy.  She doubtless moisturizes.  46...not likely.  

[straykat]

I think her and Cass are mid 30s now.. so I think mid 20s in DAO.

[Illegitimus]

I think the truth may lie somewhere in the middle of both stories. 

 

What part is she lying about to the warden? 

 

Assuming Leliana's Song is the the truth then she's lying about where she was, what she was doing, and who captured and raped her when she had her falling out with Marjolaine.  One thing that supports the idea that she lied is the fact that she's confident that that people out to kill her are not the Orlesians who supposedly captured her.  Because she was not captured by a national government but just by a band of mercenaries that she and her friends wiped out, she only had to worry about Marjolaine.  

[FemShem]

This is random, but natural redheads that have Leliana's complexion have deceptive aging.  I know that both from casting and I'm married to one.  Most people peg my wife 10 years younger than she is making me something of a chickenhawk...since we have a 9 year age difference (most know my age b/c I'm not talent I'm on the other side of the table) they mark her 20 years younger.

She still occasionally get's called in in HS stuff.  It's terrifying since she's in her 30's.  Then again, if you look at Buffy the Vampire Slayer...Can't remember the redhead's name... same complexion and hair color...was around 26 or 27 when she was cast HS age and passed pretty easily for the first few seasons, as far as TV casting goes.

Redheads are either superhot and show their age or not...there is not a middle ground in life too much.  This is not true out of a bottle or in gaming where characters are created; however, BioWare (this is an assumption on my part...I have never been in the gaming part of the industry) looks like they base characters on human models or actors.  We all know male Shepard was, but it seems like they do it in general.

I know many of my friends in the talent have done tons of VO work for video games and they'll do the whole series of the games, if they make 4, they'll be called in to do four.

Often something from their appearance is incorporated into the game, or at least it was in the 90's.

I've moved further away into writing nowadays and don't spend so much time on the other side of the table.

From a writing standpoint...there would have been little reason for the character to lie at that time, and the Cougar thing just made me laugh.

I've always steered clear of gaming, originally by accident, now by design, so I can to pleasure in it, and never, ever have to work in the field.  I don't even let myself get roped into VO work on the side.  I almost never do talent, but some know I can act, and they know I'll do VO if they need (essentially) an evil disney woman in a pinch.

I'm assuming the rules of casting are very close to tv and film, and and VO matching lip flaps which is a combo of edit and acting...but the next step is gaming.

Still, there's something about the talent that plays them that resonates with the toon in someway or they wouldn't get cast.  I've never blind case in VO.  We're still looking at headshot for some reason.

That being said...kinda wanna look at the actresses headshot at the time of casting.  Her age or headshot she used at the time of casting would be a clue, IMHO.

[Aren]

Early to mid 30's

 

What does it matter? Age is a number and from what I see in DAI she looks good

Indeed

Solas is 3000+ year old but he looks good too

[jros83]

I'm going with a young looking 30 at youngest, 35 at oldest.

 

Her young features probably had much to do with how she got in to her old profession. Her former mentor Marjolaine is clearly older, I'd put her in her mid 40s, but could easily pass for her 30s. Leli younger 30s easily pass for mid 20s.

[ThePhoenixKing]

I'd put her in her late 20's. In my headcanon/fanfiction, she's about 28, for some very plot-specific reasons.

[straykat]

I'd put her in her late 20's. In my headcanon/fanfiction, she's about 28, for some very plot-specific reasons.

 

To be clear, that's just DAO, right? If so, you'd be close.

 

I mean, her toolset has her at 26. Now DAO was 10 years prior, so she's mid-30s in DAI.

[Illegitimus]

To be clear, that's just DAO, right? If so, you'd be close.

 

I mean, her toolset has her at 26. Now DAO was 10 years prior, so she's mid-30s in DAI.

 

What's a toolset?  

[sniper_arrow]

50. Plastic surgery using blood magic is very secretive during that time. 

[straykat]

What's a toolset?  

 

DAO had more modding capabilities and more detailed info on game assets in the app.

[Deadly dwarf]

So....if you do the city elf origin, does Leliana's prior encounter with the warden's mother ever come out?  Does it impact Leli's romanceability with your warden?  Or does this only come out in Leliana's song?