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[CapivaRasgor]

I really like the idea of being a keeper, one of my first playthroughs will be with a Dalish Mage... but now, coming to think of it I think it's unlikely - all elven backgrounds will be Dalish, I doubt they'd branch out the background to include Keeper for mages and not-Keeper for Warrior and Rogue... but I'm still hoping.

[Doominike]

Warrior or Rogue could be like, lead hunter or something

[LobselVith8]

I proposed exactly that above, your clan could be exploded by the Fade Breach

I really hope not; we don't need to make the (potential) massacre of a clan a staple of Dragon Age.

[Doominike]

It's a tradition at this point

[LobselVith8]

It's a tradition at this point

It doesn't need to remain one. I could do for a refreshing change of pace with the Dalish.

[Doominike]

Maybe your clan could become part of the inquisition

[LobselVith8]

Maybe your clan could become part of the inquisition

That would be a surprise. With an elven Inquisitor, I'm hoping to side the Inquisition with the Dalish, instead of Orlais.

[Gervaise]

The way I understood it, you have to be Dalish whatever your class.   So if you are a rogue or a warrior you can't be a Keeper.    This is why I think it far more likely you are either investigating solo, or as suggested above the blast area hits your clan too.   A Keeper would be too knowledgeable to start the game at low level, whereas a First or simply a trainee mage would make sense.    Our companions are more senior people but I think the whole point is that the Inquisitor would not normally command their respect but they have the advantage of a green glowey hand which makes them the only person capable of closing the breach.    This makes a pretty strong argument for listening to how they want to run things.   However, the companions and advisors are there to help you so you don't make a complete cod's ear of it.   I'm thinking that if you persistently choose to ignore their advice, this could be a reason why you can potentially end up friendless. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

A First is pretty knowledgeable too

Not necessarily. I need only point to Merrill, who was certainly knowledgable about Eluvians, but little else.

 

Firsts got an excuse not to know ****. Keepers don't.

 

You wouldn't get to play as Warden-Commander from the start either. It is a rather common thing in video games that you try to avoid starting players out in a posistion that logically should have a lot of knowledge and power, that the player has no way of knowing themselves.

[Doominike]

Well I dunno about Leliana or that Scribbles girl but I'm sure not taking advice from Cullen

[Jedi Master of Orion]

For all we know the Peace Meeting could be for the war as a whole and not just the mage-templar conflict

 

That still doesn't really explain why a Dalish Elf would be there. They aren't really participating in a major war with humanity or anyone else.

[Mistic]

Firsts got an excuse not to know ****. Keepers don't.

 

You wouldn't get to play as Warden-Commander from the start either. It is a rather common thing in video games that you try to avoid starting players out in a posistion that logically should have a lot of knowledge and power, that the player has no way of knowing themselves.

 

That's exactly the reason I think the Dalish Inquisitor will be a First instead of a Keeper. It would allow the player to discover the game and the DA universe at their own pace.

 

I may be wrong, though. The vague 20-40 age that has been mentioned for the Inquisitor would fit well with both cases. Still, meta points in that direction.

[MisterJB]

That still doesn't really explain why a Dalish Elf would be there. They aren't really participating in a major war with humanity or anyone else.

The mages could have been trying to use the Dalish as evidence of how mage freedom could work; in their minds, at least; altough it's difficult to imagine the elves going along with it.

I think it's more likely they just happened to be nearby.

[Doominike]

Just being dalish is good enough for me anyway, I really liked being dalish in DA:O, doing it again with a mage seems awesome regardless of anything else

[Doominike]

Topic says elven mage specifically ^^

[MisterJB]

That would be a surprise. With an elven Inquisitor, I'm hoping to side the Inquisition with the Dalish, instead of Orlais.

It was recently confirmed in an interview that you can choose to absorb either the mages or the Templars into the Inquisition early on and that this will lead to unique content.

Therefore, I think there's a good chance there'll be options to support elven movements in the game. I don't believe it'll go as far as making the majority of your forces elven rather than Andrastean Humans but there should be options beyond "Do you want to kill the elves with steel or with magic?"

[Eveangaline]

Maybe your elf can become a Keeper in the epilogue slides? That I could see.

[Gervaise]

Yes the topic says mage but the whole point is that every class is apparently coming from the Dalish.   The Keeper is a senior character, so to be equivalent you'd need to be head hunter or something similar and then you'd still need it explained why you were so low level at the beginning.   I'd imagine the Keeper would have a lot of knowledge that hasn't yet been revealed in game but the PC wouldn't know.   Unless they write it in so that if someone asks you about something a Keeper would know, you get the option of answering with the required knowledge.   That seems a bit involved to me.

[Mistic]

Aren't Keepers and Keeper's Firsts all mages though? And the mage class is (hopefully) optional here.

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be another generic hunter like in Origins, but I have trouble seeing an elven warrior/rogue filling the role.

 

That has a possible explanation: our character is not the representative, but the escort. The representative may well be the Keeper, while we may be their First or a warrior, among other bodyguards. We don't know the reason they are there yet, however, but given the explosion that happens next, it would provide a driving motivation for the Inquisitor: you were supposed to take care of your Keeper and/or Dalish representatives during the conference, but now everybody is dead. You should want revenge or at least answers, and that means working with the others in the Inquisition.

 

That's just my guess. As far as we know, it could be the "clan was near, explosion, all dead save you".

 

It was recently confirmed in an interview that you can choose to absorb either the mages or the Templars into the Inquisition early on and that this will lead to unique content.

Therefore, I think there's a good chance there'll be options to support elven movements in the game. I don't believe it'll go as far as making the majority of your forces elven rather than Andrastean Humans but there should be options beyond "Do you want to kill the elves with steel or with magic?"

 

I've missed that piece of information. Nice! Not that it was surprising, given the Mage-Templar conflict, but it's good news nonetheless. What interview is it?

[Gervaise]

Unrelated to topic - where was it said you could absorb mages or Templars into the Inquisition early on?   I understood we would be able to resolve the dispute eventually but I thought that would be further down the line, not near the beginning.

[TheChris92]

A First seems more likely given that a Keeper probably won't leave his/her clan behind. It seems more likely anyway.

[Doominike]

@Gervaise-> was saying that for Faerunner, s/he was asking how a warrior or rogue could be a Keeper or a First, I replied that the topic specifies Mage Class

[CapivaRasgor]

It was recently confirmed in an interview that you can choose to absorb either the mages or the Templars into the Inquisition early on and that this will lead to unique content.

Therefore, I think there's a good chance there'll be options to support elven movements in the game. I don't believe it'll go as far as making the majority of your forces elven rather than Andrastean Humans but there should be options beyond "Do you want to kill the elves with steel or with magic?"

 

Unrelated, but could you link to absorbing the Mages or Templars?

[Dean_the_Young]

Well I dunno about Leliana or that Scribbles girl but I'm sure not taking advice from Cullen

Wait. So if Cullen gives you good advice on a sensible, moral, realistic, and practical level, you would... what, refuse to do it because he offered the advice?