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Touchy subject: a critique regarding sexuality in this game, character design and privilege: The Cisquisition?


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#51
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Funny you should mention a game like the Witcher, a game where I have no romance options, and no option to not play a straight male either (and yet I played the game anyway, and didn't whine about it being unfair). The protagonist in that game is a straight male regardless of what the actual player is, so the women available to him reflect that. 

 

In DA:I the gender and orientation of the protagonist is entirely up to the player, and the romance options reflect that. You will have the same number of options as everyone else. And believe me women and gays are just as restricted by their own personal preference as you are. I've spoken to many straight girls who romance no one in the first Mass Effect game because they didn't like Kaidan. They had an option and they abstained from it. You will have options, you may choose to abstain from them but don't act as if you're being treated unfairly or don't have any.

 

Just because you're used to getting preferential treatment doesn't mean that when you get treated equally you are suddenly being marginalized. You have it better than I do in like 90% of the AAA games out there, I'm afraid I just can't feel sorry for you when one game comes along that treats us equally. 


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Good gracious! How dare they try to be more inclusive and representative!
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Whatever the judgement on the general content of the OP, I do agree (as a white straight male guy) that the romance options available to straight males in this game are mostly un-feminine or ugly women (if these are in fact Cassandra and Vivienne).


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Of course it's a troll, that much is obvious.  But something many people who are so dismissive in this thread would be equally loathe to admit is that it also the honest opinion of a not insignificant part of the gaming population.

 

This is a great point. It is a commonly held opinion. Even Yahtzee, a guy I have a lot of time for, has basically said that wanting diversity in games is being a 'social justice warrior' and if you really cared you should make your own game. He has had his doubts over the 47% & said that there aren't a lot of women in gaming.

 

He is a guy who is normally so on the ball with how the gaming industry works and has been giving out about the fact that almost every character is a white male soldier for as long as I've been watching his show and still he has this blind spot.


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So while everyone focuses on the romance option, I'll focus on the grammar. Did you notice those were in quotes? That means it's being said by the characters, thus, it's ok for them to not be grammatically correct." It happens in many novels. Now, if it was in a normal press release, then there would be problems.


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Whatever the judgement on the general content of the OP, I do agree (as a white straight male guy) that the romance options available to straight males in this game are mostly un-feminine or ugly women (if these are in fact Cassandra and Vivienne).

Cass' appearance changes to screenshot to screenshot I swear. But are you seriously implying that Sera is somehow better looking than those two? I'd have less problem with your argument if you just said they all look ugly.



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Whatever the judgement on the general content of the OP, I do agree (as a white straight male guy) that the romance options available to straight males in this game are mostly un-feminine or ugly women (if these are in fact Cassandra and Vivienne).

 

and I'm a straight white male who finds them attractive, so where does that leave us?


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Whatever the judgement on the general content of the OP, I do agree (as a white straight male guy) that the romance options available to straight males in this game are mostly un-feminine or ugly women (if these are in fact Cassandra and Vivienne).

 

Translation: "the romance options available to me in this game (since I can only play straight, white men) are not ones I personally find attractive, so I will insult them".


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Whatever the judgement on the general content of the OP, I do agree (as a white straight male guy) that the romance options available to straight males in this game are mostly un-feminine or ugly women (if these are in fact Cassandra and Vivienne).

Delete. Not worth getting warning points over this.


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Whatever the judgement on the general content of the OP, I do agree (as a white straight male guy) that the romance options available to straight males in this game are mostly un-feminine or ugly women (if these are in fact Cassandra and Vivienne).

 

Cass really doesn't look all that different from DA2 she just has sharper features in a new engine and her jaw looks a bit wider (oh and the scars). You may think Vivienne is ugly but how can you say she looks un feminine? She looks incredibly feminine. When you say feminine do you mean white and blonde or something? That's not a racism accusation btw it's a serious question. 


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Wow TC must have quite the small peen, not to mention him being homophobic, sexist and racist.


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This is clearly trolling, not to mention massively offensive to pretty much everyone. Mods - shouldn't this be locked?
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Enigmatick

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Getting some real mature responses here, BSN.

 

Wow TC must have quite the small peen.



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TC hasn't posted after getting his count to 666, wonder if this was the most amusing/exciting/trollish way he could think of to get two posts



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This is clearly trolling, not to mention massively offensive to pretty much everyone. Mods - shouldn't this be locked?

 

I'm sure it will be. 



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I like how these guys think it's a fact that Cass and Viv are ugly. It's not a fact, it's just your opinion. Also Triss? She's not hot, she's ugly as heck. Ciri? She looks just like Triss but with white hair and is wearing commoner clothing, not armor that a warrior trained by witchers would wear. Only Yen is good and even she has issues(her hair is wrong)
 

 

Get off your high horse people, if you don't like the options fine, but don't act like Bioware is attacking the straight white man, it just makes you look extremely bad, and you will be attacked.



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TC hasn't posted after getting his count to 666, wonder if this was the most amusing/exciting/trollish way he could think of to get two posts

Not a bad way to go out, should've had a nice avatar though.



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Cass really doesn't look all that different from DA2 she just has sharper features in a new engine and her jaw looks a bit wider (oh and the scars). You may think Vivienne is ugly but how can you say she looks un feminine? She looks incredibly feminine. When you say feminine do you mean white and blonde or something? That's not a racism accusation btw it's a serious question. 

 

She has a manjaw and she is extremely ugly. If you like masculine features on a woman, that is your right but don't try to shove this up on people throat.

 

''When you say feminine do you mean white and blonde or something?"

 

Really? Are you really trying to make him sound racist? This is beyond pathetic.



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Ailith Tycane

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Are the mods unconscious or something? 


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Enigmatick

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She has a manjaw and she is extremely ugly. If you like masculine features on a woman, that is your right but don't try to shove this up on people throat.

What makes Viv ugly, then?



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This is clearly trolling, not to mention massively offensive to pretty much everyone. Mods - shouldn't this be locked?

 

"WAAA, i have no arguments and i will label the different opinion of other people as a troll attempt, WAA"

 

Leave the topic then if you aren't able to think before posting something.



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She has a manjaw and she is extremely ugly. If you like masculine features on a woman, that is your right but don't try to shove this up on people throat.
 
''When you say feminine do you mean white and blonde or something?"
 
Really? Are you really trying to make him sound racist? This is beyond pathetic.


Vivienne was lumped in as being un feminine. How is she? It was a valid question.
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Are the mods unconscious or something? 

 

It does seem that way, doesn't it?



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She has a manjaw and she is extremely ugly. If you like masculine features on a woman, that is your right but don't try to shove this up on people throat.

 

"manjaw" Wow.... That's not insulting at all......


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