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[happy_daiz]

The fan tears quota demands that Iron Bull be non-romanceable, bi or otherwise. 

 

 

 

 

j/k.

 

Surely as part of Team YOLO, he will be. I mean...YOLO.

[PinkDiamondstl]

The fan tears quota demands that Iron Bull be non-romanceable, bi or otherwise. 

 

 

 

 

j/k.

 

Surely as part of Team YOLO, he will be. I mean...YOLO.

Non-romance-able Iron Bull would be the better way . 

[happy_daiz]

Non-romance-able Iron Bull would be the better way . 

 

Honestly, despite how much I'd love him to be romanceable, I agree with you. It just seems too fan service-y to me.

 

If he was made romanceable, he'd lose, for an entire race, the air of mystery that qunari have right now.

 

I'd rather him be my bff, and leave it at that. Although I'd always wonder, it would just have to be unrequited.  

[leaguer of one]

Honestly, despite how much I'd love him to be romanceable, I agree with you. It just seems too fan service-y to me.

 

If he was made romanceable, he'd lose, for an entire race, the air of mystery that qunari have right now.

 

I'd rather him be my bff, and leave it at that. Although I'd always wonder, it would just have to be unrequited.  

That going to happen regardless. You can play as a qunari. That mystery is already out the window.

[leaguer of one]

Whatever lady! I'll don't care anymore ..If he's bi he's bi. I don't want him for anything other than killing.

..... That's just a pic of one of my ME characters. That's not a show of my gender.

[happy_daiz]

That going to happen regardless. You can play as a qunari. That mystery is already out the window.

 

Oh gawd, could you imagine if BW decided to make it impossible for a pc qunari to romance anyone? The RAGE!

[leaguer of one]

Oh gawd, could you imagine if BW decided to make it impossible for a pc qunari to romance anyone? The RAGE!

I would personally set this forum on fire if they did. I going to play a female Qunari in my first playthrough.

[PinkDiamondstl]

Oh gawd, could you imagine if BW decided to make it impossible for a pc qunari to romance anyone? The RAGE!

Yep .There will be rage and a whole lot of whining along with whiny threads .But they'll get over it.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I don't think Iron Bull is any more in demand as an LI than literally every companion.   

[Gannayev of Dreams]

If I could have it done my way yes ! I would want them all to be straight .But that's not the case these days is it?

But I don't plan on bedding the bull however I still don't think they'll make him bi either. That's just me please carry on.

 

Man... that would just be like... so boring.  To each their own though.  In my fantasy world everyone would be bi.

[CrimsonN7]

Non-romance-able Iron Bull would be the better way . 

Yeah I agree also, I would be perfectly content if he was unavailable. The romance option in DA is a nice addition but not the main reason I play these games.

 

Anyway I reckon I'll be forever alone in this game, Leliana ain't available, so no bang.

[Gamemako]

Sten is just messing with Morrigan in these banters.

*headdesk*

For Zevran, I think it's because you can learn to avoid the dialogue to prevent the conversation from triggering after the first time.  With Anders it's unavoidable, which is the reason why I think some folks got so upset.  That and the rivalry hit, ignoring the fact that it can be easily overcome.  The latter I've heard as a bigger "problem" than the other.

Zevran is up-front about it one way or the other, and you're not losing points for telling him no. He comes onto you directly and shrugs it off if you say you're not interested. He only really loses approval if you tell him off, which is terribly unsurprising. Anders, by contrast, comes completely out of left field, and then the game slaps you like you did something wrong for selecting the diplomatic dialogue option. Anders is also that much worse because of what he is in DA:A. But yeah, the awkwardness of the exchange is just one part of it. The rivalry points are the real killer. It's a plus-minus system with a minus linked to a plus option, but only if you're not interested in Anders. It's silly and you're punished for its lack of logic.

[daveliam]

They say that he will bed anyone who he thinks won't break.  It pretty much sounds like he's bisexual.  If he was straight, wouldn't they say, "He'll bed any woman he thinks won't break."?  I mean, they deliberately chose a gender neutral word.  I'm expecting him to be bisexual (even if he isn't an LI).

[Maria Caliban]

It's pretty clear that IB is bisexual. Whether he will be race-gated to, say, qunari and humans is another matter.

Also yay on Dorian, not that it wasn't fairly obvious.

A character can be bisexual and yet not a love interest.
 

They say that he will bed anyone who he thinks won't break. It pretty much sounds like he's bisexual. If he was straight, wouldn't they say, "He'll bed any woman he thinks won't break."? I mean, they deliberately chose a gender neutral word. I'm expecting him to be bisexual (even if he isn't an LI).

Yes. Moreover, Patrick wrote Jack previously, a bisexual character who only romanced male PCs.

IRON BULL is probably only romancable as a Qunari, anyone else would probably die.

He's not just a romance, he's a non-standard game over.

[aTigerslunch]

They could, yes. But I wasn't here when they first mentioned sexualities of previous LIs or if any none LIs were mentioned previous to game coming out. If they weren't mentioned in past for sexuality of non LIs, then most likely the announced ones sexualities are LIs. I'm guessing cause I haven't been here for previous titles to know for certain.

[TheTurtle]

He's not just a romance, he's a non-standard game over.

So he's basically Morinth 

[daveliam]

Yes. Moreover, Patrick wrote Jack previously, a bisexual character who only romanced male PCs.

 

Ugh.  Don't remind me.  Even if I had no interest in romancing her, that always felt really off.  I'd like to think that this was more to do with the "culture" of the ME games at that point.  The DA "culture" is more inclusive so I would hope that if they made a bisexual character a romance option, they wouldn't then gender-gate them.

[NRieh]

If he IS the male bi - it leaves straight femQuizitor with either him or Cullen. A thrilling choice, I know. Reminds me of ME3, where straight femShep, who was not into interstellar alien sex could only have Kaidan. And non-imported straight femShep had no other options, at all.

 

Don't get me wrong, I've loved Kaidan since ME1. But the very idea is kinda....disturbing. Lesbian quizzy is going to have Sera and some other fair lady (Vivienne? Scribe?). Straight male is going to have Cass and that TBA female bi too. Hopefully straight females and gays get some  reasonable choice too.    

[daveliam]

If he IS the male bi - it leaves straight femQuizitor with either him or Cullen. A thrilling choice, I know. Reminds me of ME3, where straight femShep, who was not into interstellar alien sex could only have Kaidan. And non-imported straight femShep had no other options, at all.

 

Don't get me wrong, I've loved Kaidan since ME1. But the very idea is kinda....disturbing. Lesbian quizzy is going to have Sera and some other fair lady (Vivienne? Scribe?). Straight male is going to have Cass and that TBA female bi too. Hopefully straight females and gays get some  reasonable choice too.    

 

"Reasonable" is a subjective term.  To me, Iron Bull is my second choice (right after Dorian, who is already confirmed for guys).  Cullen would be my third choice.  So while I'm not a straight gal, I know that I would be completely happy with IB and Cullen as my options. 

 

Not everyone is going to feel that way.  But that would be because of personal preferences.  It wouldn't be that Bioware gave objectively worse options to straight females, just that subjectively some people aren't happy with their choices.  That's an important distinction.

 

That being said, we don't know if IB is even an LI at this point.  My gut is telling me that he is a race-gated bisexual option, but that there is still another option beyond just Cullen and Dorian too.  I'm starting to think that straight gals (and possibly gay guys) will have three options because IB will a "bonus" race-gated option for some races.

[NRieh]

 

It wouldn't be that Bioware gave objectively worse options to straight females, just that subjectively some people aren't happy with their choices.  That's an important distinction.

Well, in case of ME3 there is little subjectivity, it's just the math. New straight femShep has 1(one) LI option. New straight mShep has two (2.5 if you count D.Allers).  

 

 

My gut is telling me that he is a race-gated bisexual option

That's what I'm hoping for. But that quote does not sound much like a 'race-gated'. We can only speculate and wait for now. I hope they know what they're doing. 

 

 

"Reasonable" is a subjective term.

There's no way I can call sexual relations between huge qunari and a dwarven or elven girl "reasonable". Unless they go "Sebastian" way. Which is unlikely (according to that quote).  

[daveliam]

Well, in case of ME3 there is little subjectivity, it's just the math. New straight femShep has 1(one) LI option. New straight mShep has two (2.5 if you count D.Allers).

That's what I'm hoping for. But that quote does not sound much like a 'race-gated'. We can only speculate and wait for now. I hope they know what they're doing.

There's no way I can call sexual relations between huge qunari and a dwarven or elven girl "reasonable". Unless they go "Sebastian" way. Which is unlikely (according to that quote).

I wasn't talking about ME3. However, you are equating 'worse' with 'less'. While it is generally worse to get less options, that doesn't mean that the options you DO get are worse. I had less options in ME3 than straight guys but my subjective opinion is that my options were amazing, so I was happy.

I'm not sure which quote you were referring to, but if it's the 'he will sleep anyone who he thinks won't break', that does kind of sound to me like race-gating. Of course, that's just my interpretation of it.

And, yes, your opinion that it is not reasonable for a qunari male to be with an elf or dwarf woman is completely subjective. I see no problem with it at all. All of those races are within the range of human size. If a huge human male can be with a petite human female, then IB can be with a lady dwarf inquisitor, in my opinion.

[Jigglypuff]

omg dorian is gay, finally a hot gay li.

[Nefla]

omg dorian is gay, finally a hot gay li.

I just can't see past the awful mustache and haircut >.<

[NRieh]

 

I had less options in ME3 than straight guys but my subjective opinion is that my options were amazing, so I was happy.

You're wrong, good sir. You had same amount as straight guys  (on a fresh run, minus Allers), and that's one option more compared to the fresh straight femShep run. Just saying. 

 

 

 

All of those races are within the range of human size.

Hello! Can you remember Varric compared to the Arishok in DA2?.. Well, sure sleeping with. let's say, a turian involves more problems (and that had never stopped some).  

[daveliam]

You're wrong, good sir. You had same amount as straight guys (on a fresh run, minus Allers), and that's one option more compared to the fresh straight femShep run. Just saying.

Hello! Can you remember Varric compared to the Arishok in DA2?.. Well, sure sleeping with. let's say, a turian involves more problems (and that had never stopped some).

'A fresh run' is not a valid criteria to me. If a romance exists in the game, it counts whether I choose to exclude myself from it or not. It's like saying that there were no LIs in Baldur's Gate because I only play as gnomes. There were ten romances in ME3. All of which were fully scripted and unlocked the romance achievement.

Yes, Varric was smaller than the Arishok. You are not comfortable with having two characters with that size difference in a romance. I am. How, again, does that mean that our opinions are not subjective?