All will be allowed to join resouces are needed is going to be my first playthrough thinking, they drain to much focus they get dead.
What Companions are you NOT going to let join the Inquisition, based on who your PC is?
#51
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 05:46
#52
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 06:11
Don't know have not met them. But first playtrue take them all, if they don't like me protecting innocent and saving nugs from trees, throwing bad people to my dungeon and forcing them to build my giant statue. Companions can suck it or leave.
#53
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 06:13
No one, I need every one I can get to stop the conflicts in Thedas. Regardless of my feelings on every faction.
#54
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 06:57
"I" (Inquisitor that shares my beliefs completely) will reject:
-- Cole. Demon or not, there are no "good" spirits, IMO.
"I" am on the fence about:
-- Cassandra. Up to now I have not really liked anything about her, other than her (new) looks. Still willing to give her a chance, but she does not seem the type that will support my roguish style.
-- Blackwall. I do not trust Grey Wardens nor do I buy into their legend. I also think that people who go into any military organization with the idea of doing noble work is a fool. I'm not completely writing him or Cassandra off though because sometimes I can like and respect characters that hold opinions I do not agree with, as I did with Aveline and Wynne. We'll see, though.
-- Iron Bull. I am big on covert operation, so IB's expectation to keep sending his people reports -- even though I do like Qunari and would welcome their allegiance -- will not fly with me so easily. Not a damn leak in my Inquisition!!
-- Solas. Almost everything revealed about him recently has my support ... except his apparent affinity for spirits. I'll agree they can be useful, in a certain time and place, but I refuse to embrace them. At least, I'll need a lot of convincing before it happens.
Not that I want to miss out on these characters or all their content, but that's for separate Inquisitors that aren't "me," and I find parties of seven or more characters to be too overcrowded for me to truly enjoy all of them in one save.
#55
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 07:06
Taking everyone at least once. But yeah Cole gets the boot. Wish the same could be done with Cullen.
#56
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 09:27
Varric: Surface Dwarf, smart and has resources even if they're diminished a tad when the Inquisition comes around. No real reason to reject Varric's aid outside of family politics potentially. If you pick Dwarf, you'll have to be a Surface Dwarf. Will probably be a staple character in majority of parties.
Vivienne: Might be a bit pushy, might come off as pompous or condescending. Seems reasonable though in the end and will likely fall in line if the Inquisitor advances in a direction favoring her. Pro-circle Mage. If the PC doesn't like Magic, it seems reasonable to anticipate rejection even though she's got a political head on her shoulders, along with respectable background. If PC is racist against Orlesians she likely won't be a welcomed addition. Might choose political advantages over loyalty.
Iron Bull: Qunari is enough to set off alarm bells. Sends reports on your Inquisition to a potential enemy. Merc as well, so his loyalty is in question. Otherwise seems to be a happy go lucky-guy, played up as goofy comedic-relief with a touch of depression. Plenty of potential for players not to want him.
Cassandra: Human racism. Potentially Religious. Nevarran racism could come into play or hate against the Pentaghasts. Chantry-aligned. Seems a bit malleable though in her beliefs. Can probably be persuaded into believing other ideas, especially since initially she thought the Champion as some crook and at the end of Varric's tale became a bit of a hero-worshiper. Loyalty is a bit in question, but seems easily gained.
Sera: Elven Racism. Her ideals can be summed down to (We can save ten people today and lose the criminal, over risking these ten people to draw the criminal out.) from what I understand. Believes more in doing good in the current scenario, than planning ahead. Likes results. Dislikes authority figures and is a bit of a Robin Hood for regular folks. Her interest seems more in being a hero, for the people rather than any side. Loyalty seems extremely easy to gain, but she may be wary of political decisions if the Inquisitor opts for them.
Dorian: Mage hate. Tevinter hate. Hopes to change Tevinter to suit his ideals of what Tevinter should be like, by making a difference. Is supposedly charming and witty, and has great magical potential. Morals could be questionable given what we know of Tevinter. Could join the Inquistion just to bring back order and give himself a good name. Loyalty is questionable but likely easy to garner eitherway.
Cole: Spirit who took the form of a dead mage. Uses blood magic, possibly unintentionally. His namesake was raised in an abusive family. Spirits tend to have strong moralities that define who they are. Cole is a bit confused about their own origin and is in a 'Shale-esque' situation, taking a more benevolent personality while his identity is very unknown. Loyalty can likely be obtained by finding evidence to who his identity, or by appealing to his personality's judgement. However carries a risk factor given all the breaches in the rift and his own spirit-like nature. Mage-aligned likely.
Blackwall: Human racism. Warden prejudice. Morality is very set on self-sacrifice. Embodiment of Grey Warden Virtues and a big advocate for them. Willingly underwent joining of his own choice. Might turn a blind-eye to his order's evil deeds for a 'greater good' that his order can accomplish. Plays off as very Paladin-like with brownie points for the Grey Wardens. Loyalty seems easy if you're willing to fight for others over yourself.
Solas: Mage prejudice. Elf racism. Doesn't reduce problems down to two or so sides, and likely believes there's more to it than that, history, culture, or biological factors possibly. Seems open-minded but a bit naive. Could easily have a very drastic morality and might use the Inquisitor as a basis to learn from, living a majority of his life in isolation and being an introvert. Could be a ME1 Garrus Vakarian situation all over again.
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Overall to sum these characters down.
Varric is probably going to join most, if not all parties.
Cassandra and the Iron Bull, might be rejected on religious reasoning.
All parties can be rejected on the basis of race or magic.
Blackwall is going to be self-sacrificing and doing his best for all others.
Cassandra likely wants to follow the laws established by the Chantry, and simply restore order.
Cole offers mercy-killings to others, can fulfill the role of an assassin, and is looking to find out who he is.
Sera dislikes authority figures but does her best for regular folks.
Solas has been isolated from society, and while not oblivious to conflicts seems more interested in his own matters.
Dorian is against everything Tevinter stands for, and hopes to make changes for a perceived better.
Iron Bull will want to live his life his way, while also helping his people in the process.
Vivienne will push for her way, and while she seeks order, it might be on her terms.
Varric wants all this **** to be done with, he's too old for demonic invasions from the Fade.
That's what I see anyway. Could be totally wrong.
#57
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 09:28
Cassandra if I can manage it, do not trust the seekers or anyone strongly associated with the chantry, even if that link is supposedly lapsed.
#58
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 11:31
Gotta catch em all'. Im skeptical about cole, the iron bull and vivienne, but I will most likely recruit them all. Don't know if I want the iron bull communicating with fellow quanari though.
#59
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 11:35
ill be recruiting everybody, at least on my first playthrough, but on my additional playthroughs i will be taking a more personal approach to who i recruit
#60
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 11:51
I'll be recruiting everyone because, as some of you have said, why miss out on the dialogue and scenarios that will happen with different members in the party. Then being said though, Cassandra could annoy me since I personally think that the Chantry and the Maker are glorified and held in too high regard. That's just my feelings though. Also, Varric might annoy me because -- Alright, I can't do it! I LOVE Varric (he was the star of DA2) so he's coming everywhere with me.
#61
Guest_Caladin_*
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 01:06
Guest_Caladin_*
I have a feeling for DA:I i will need to change how i do things regarding companions ( i norm do 1 play through get to know them an then ditch what i cant be bothered listening to), i feel i prob will need to recruit them all for a few runs of the game to actually get to know them, after that who knows, maybe it will turn out that i dont like say blackwall but to get the result i want in certain situations i need to have him
End of the day there a chance they all will leave on there own accord anyhow if they disagree with you so well sounds like i dont need to do anything apart from just play my game.
I dont intentionally degrade my content but i make exceptions if the companion really really does my head in, points to zevran/anders and most of all fenris, those 3 annoy me soo much it take a retcon to have them in any future DA game for me
#62
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 01:15
I'll have a 'kill all' playthrough sooner or later.
But other than that, I'll always take them all.
#63
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 01:34
I collect them all, even the ones I hate and can easily skip (Fenris), I'll still recruit them and make sure they stay around.
I also had a tough time liking Fenris, and never truly warmed up to him. Gave him every shot (and even romanced him), but he is the one franchise elf that annoyed me from start to finish. That being said, I also would have preferred that they had gone with their original intention and brought Velanna over to DA2, instead of Anders.
Despite my general disdain for Fenris overall, it still felt like a true betrayal to turn him over to Denarius (and after having done so I deeply regretted that decision). On the flip side, turning Isabela over to the Arishok seemed somewhat appropriate (given her culpability in the Qunari rebellion). Even if I had romanced her, so I did that on occasion without losing sleep. I never succeed in pissing Merrill off enough to have her turn on me so that I could kill her, although I liked Merrill quite a bit.
One of my favorite DA:O playthroughs was my "ass-kickers of the fantastic" party consisting of a Male Cousland Warden plus Sten, Oghren, and Zevran. I killed off and/or sent away every other companion until I recruited Loghain (and then willingly sacrificed him to save Fereldan; stuff it Alistair). Anora was my queen and bride. No dark rituals for the "ass-kickers of the fantastic!"
#64
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 01:47
Oops! Didn't really answer the question. For Inquisition, I'm gonna take them all for a spin, nobody left behind until I can determine if one of these newbies doesn't measure up.
#65
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 02:05
It does not make - any - sense at all (even vor a PC who might not agree with a certain character), why?
Because we will need all the help we can get (and even a PC who is kind of an ass or can't stand somebody knows this) and because having someone extra (for problems that involve sacrifice for example - I mean, if you didn't take the companion you don't like and have such a choice to make, it will be someone you like that dies (!)...not a good idea) is always a good idea ![]()
on the other hand, from a players perspective (as the opener of the thread already said):
Why denie yourself the content (even if you don't like the character much)?
greetings LAX
#66
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 03:26
Although I take in account my PC's history within the DA universe when making decisions, I'm mostly also playing as myself, always. So, for my first playthrough (qunari mage), I'm not going to turn away anyone, unless they're really unreasonable. I'm also known to metagame for difficult and ethical decisions, to build a perfect world state.
With the exception of Iron Bull and Cole, I don't see any reason why we should turn people away. Cassandra and Varric are there from the beginning. Vivienne may have her agendas but I think we can trust her to help bring order to Thedas. Sera is useful in combat and she has connections with the Friends of Red Jenny. Blackwall has leadership skills, experience and combat training, plus, Bara. Solas has unique and indisposable knowledge about the Fade. Dorian is powerful and dashing. Of course, all of them could have hidden agendas but the Inquisition needs all the help it could get, especially in its early days. Keep a close eye on everyone and deal with the betrayals when they come, perhaps? I don't know. ![]()
Iron Bull: Although my Inquisitor and I both don't trust the Qunari, we are interested in getting to know Iron Bull, who may be the first qunari my Inquisitor has come into contact with. Also, we need all the help we get. He can act as a bridge between the Inquisition and the Qunari, should the need arise, maybe at the end of the game? Of course, I am going to decide what information is allowed to be in his reports, that is non-negotiable. If he refuses, which I doubt, I'm going to turn him away, relunctantly.
Cole: He is dangerous. We have no idea whether he is a demon or a spirit and perhaps that is not even a useful distinction anymore. However, being a mage, I am particularly interested in Cole. With the help of the three mages, I think we'd be able to control the risks that Cole pose. I'm not sure if his abilities justify the risk that we carry by letting him stay but I'm pretty sure I'm metagaming by this point. I just want to give everyone hugs, my poor bb's ![]()
#67
Guest_Morrigan_*
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 04:16
Guest_Morrigan_*
None. I always take as many as I can, which is to say all of them. Lacking party members removes content, removed content means removed fun, removed fun means what the hell am I doing(?).
Yeah, I kind of regret killing off so many potential companions in previous DA games. In Origins, I killed Wynne in the Mage's circle, Zevran before he even had a chance to join up, and Leliana about half way through.
This time I shall endeavor to be more inclusive.
#68
Posté 01 juillet 2014 - 04:43
Well I can't say that for sure since my Inquisitor hasn't met these people yet. But I will say Dorian, Vivienne, and Cole need to impress me.
#69
Posté 02 juillet 2014 - 06:54
Dorian...
#70
Posté 03 juillet 2014 - 01:47
It does not make - any - sense at all (even vor a PC who might not agree with a certain character), why?
Because we will need all the help we can get (and even a PC who is kind of an ass or can't stand somebody knows this) and because having someone extra (for problems that involve sacrifice for example - I mean, if you didn't take the companion you don't like and have such a choice to make, it will be someone you like that dies (!)...not a good idea) is always a good idea
on the other hand, from a players perspective (as the opener of the thread already said):
Why denie yourself the content (even if you don't like the character much)?
greetings LAX
I'd rather have fewer people I can rely on than the cancer of doubt bought by a companion who opposes my vision.
#71
Posté 03 juillet 2014 - 02:08
Since my canon roleplay is male Dwarf Rogue Inquisitor, every companion is welcome to the Inquisition. For I don't think the Cadash Inquisitor is going to give much of a damn about Qunaris, Elves, Humans and even Spirits like Cole. As long as followers want to get the job done, they are welcome aboard.
I mean Dwarves in Dragon Age games are supposed to hate on each other. The only dwarven companion we will have is Varric and the other known dwarf we will meet is Dagna should one make the proper choices. Both of them are awesome and I have no reason to hate them.
That is the awesome part about roleplaying a dwarf in Dragon Age. You don't have many people hating you be default...Except your own species... ![]()
As for other roleplay playthroughs, we shall see...
#72
Posté 03 juillet 2014 - 02:12
I'm not going deny anyone, but perhaps I will send them packing after they joined but only if the gameplay supports it. I like being friends with everyone and telling them what they want to hear even if I don't care about their views but to be honest I'd like to have a reason to make the choice. Just booting people because they disagree with me is psycho especially if they can make a case. Booting them because they cause unrest, that's a whole other thing.
I'd like to play as a cold and calculating son of a ****** but the problem is that most rpg choices are for the sake of getting good or evil points and they either have the same result or the good is vastly superior for the completion of the game.
#73
Posté 03 juillet 2014 - 09:39
Alright, here goes:
1) My first/main Inquisitor will let everyone join. I never turn potential companions away in my first playthrough of these types of games. However I've got my eye on Cole, Iron Bull, Solas, and Dorian. If any of them do something that I am too disagreeable to consider, they'll get the boot/murder knife.
2) My Human Templar Warrior will more than likely turn away Cole (and slay him if it is an option). He will also be super weary of Solas and Dorian, but he'll allow them to join.
3) My Elven Rogue Archer will likely turn away Iron Bull, he does not take kindly to a spy being among the Inquisition. He'd see it as a liability and weakness to the Inquisition, and will not tolerate it. He will also be weary of Cole.
That's pretty much it. I don't really enjoy the idea of turning away companions, unless they're super disagreeable or just totally lame. If I ever do it in a playthrough, it's mostly for role playing/immersion purposes.
I do admit though in DA:2 I wanted to kill/drop pretty much all of the companions lol. Terrible.
#74
Posté 04 juillet 2014 - 01:07
None. My first character will be a rogue, so I have no idea what side I'll take until I play the game. Although eventually my pro-mage leanings might make me disregard Vivienne and Cassandra like I now do Fenris.
#75
Posté 04 juillet 2014 - 01:46
I always try to recruit every companion I can. Even if I wont end up getting along with them.





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