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Varric the Storyteller: Keeping us company in the Keep


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The quests I liked. And you get to see Leliana in action, which is great.

 

Sebastian... well, character's always up to personal taste, so you'll have to draw your own conclusions. As a rogue he's crap.

What do you guys mean when you say Varric didn't get along with him? I can't hardly imagine him not being friendly to someone in the party. Even in that one play-through I was running a rivalry with him, it was as if the game didn't want me to :lol:  



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Huh, there's a thought. I'm not great at the stat side of games, so I didn't think of that. Thanks.

I'm not usually either, but what I do for all my rogues is to keep cunning and agi fairly balanced, with Con as the dump stat.  

 

Check your percentages at the side of the stats; sometimes dropping a point or two into a stat can help boost things for critical hits (dex I think,) magic resist (that's int for sure,) ect.  This is nice for more than just Hawke.

 

I didn't realize that until my most recent completion of the game, and it made a world of difference.  I didn't go crazy, but I found that a point or two here or there helps.  Like taking it from 17% magic resist to 20% magic resist by dropping some points into Int.  Try that the next time you play.   :)

 

 

What do you guys mean when you say Varric didn't get along with him? I can't hardly imagine him not being friendly to someone in the party. Even in that one play-through I was running a rivalry with him, it was as if the game didn't want me to  :lol:  

Varric doesn't like Seb at all, and even says that one of the reasons why it's because Seb is such a goody-two-shoes that it "makes my teeth ache."  Varric also calls out Seb a time or two for his indecision about being a royal, or being a priest.



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I thought Sebastian was the best looking of the male LI's in DA2 but I would probably rank him as one the worst Dragon Age characters. To me, the worst thing to be in a work of fiction is forgettable, and that was Sebastian's problem. I kept forgetting he existed. He sure was hot though...

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What do you guys mean when you say Varric didn't get along with him? I can't hardly imagine him not being friendly to someone in the party. Even in that one play-through I was running a rivalry with him, it was as is the game didn't want me to :lol:  

 

They have very opposing personalities and viewpoints. Sebastian makes Aveline seem like a rule breaker. 


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I know this is an ME topic but I'm curious to know; What's everyones favorite class to play as in ME?

 

Either Adept or Vanguard. Normally Adept, because then, between Kaidan and I, there are biotic explosions everywhere. Seriously, the MAYHEM! (Wait, I'm getting my games mixed up.)

 

And I know you've already pretty much finished, but Oh My GOD! I loved Kaidan. My M!Shep was hopelessly single in ME1 and 2, because I got on the train late and they had already announced that S/S romances would be available to M!Shep in ME3. I was hoping I'd be able to romance Kaidan, and... Save for my one playthrough as a female to romance Garrus, Kaidan is the only person I romance. I love the slow evolution from friends to lovers that M!Shep and Kaidan have. 

 

...Plus, I might have had a thing for Raphael Sbarge's voice ever since he played Carth in KotOR. (I know he gets crap, but by God do I love Carth.)


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They have very opposing personalities and viewpoints. Sebastian makes Aveline seem like a rule breaker. 

Yeah, he did make Aveline look like a party animal, didn't he?

 

Edit: What's-his-face from NWN, the LI for women?  No joke, I usually have to look up his name, and I don't feel like it at the moment.  :P  He's much worse than Seb, because you can overlook him and his quests entirely.


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I always play a Vanguard ME. I tried an Adept playthrough once but didn't enjoy it. I like to get up close and personal in battle.

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I thought Sebastian was the best looking of the male LI's in DA2 but I would probably rank him as one the worst Dragon Age characters. To me, the worst thing to be in a work of fiction is forgettable, and that was Sebastian's problem. I kept forgetting he existed. He sure was hot though...

 

Sebastian misses Act 1, too. I don't think it would've saved him, but keeping him out of the longest act, where the team is starting to gel? How is that a good idea?



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...Plus, I might have had a thing for Raphael Sbarge's voice ever since he played Carth in KotOR. (I know he gets crap, but by God to I love Carth.)

 

That was actually one of my problems with him. I couldn't stop thinking about Carth and it was distracting. But yes, Raphael Sbarge has a wonderful voice!


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They have very opposing personalities and viewpoints. Sebastian makes Aveline seem like a rule breaker. 

 

So true! I normally have no problem with goody characters, I mean I play characters that would be considered "good" (or perhaps "chaotic good" is a better fit) usually, but he was just too much, man. xP There's a line between being a good guy and being an arrogant asshat about your morals, and he crossed it.


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They said that Varric doesn't get along with Iron Bull and Cassandra, so it's not like he has to like everyone.


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Sebastian misses Act 1, too. I don't think it would've saved him, but keeping him out of the longest act, where the team is starting to gel? How is that a good idea?

Beats me.  Sebastian was a decent idea, but like most other things that EA rushed for release for that game, it wasn't implemented well.

 

 

They said that Varric doesn't get along with Iron Bull and Cassandra, so it's not like he has to like everyone.

Yep, the devs have said that Varric isn't the party's best bud this time around.



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They said that Varric doesn't get along with Iron Bull and Cassandra, so it's not like he has to like everyone.

 

True! Plus he's gonna be a bit more serious about stuff this time around because of his experiences, probably, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. Isn't gonna stop me from bringing him and Bull with me together all the time.  B)



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Sebastian misses Act 1, too. I don't think it would've saved him, but keeping him out of the longest act, where the team is starting to gel? How is that a good idea?

That's a problem I hope Inquisition will avoid; late arrival party members. I had this problem with Legion too. Although I really liked Legion by the time he arrived I was near done with the game and already had my team worked out so I never really used him. It's hard for me to bond with the late arrivals.

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i like that Varric isn't everyone's best bud this time around (though I love Cassandra, so banter will be interesting) I mean, Varric is great, but this game and many of the companions have a much more serious tone than DA2, which felt very juvenile at times



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Sebastian misses Act 1, too. I don't think it would've saved him, but keeping him out of the longest act, where the team is starting to gel? How is that a good idea?

I doubt they had much of a choice there. DA2 was always working on limited time and resources, and that was reflected on pretty much every aspect of it.


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That's a problem I hope Inquisition will avoid; late arrival party members. I had this problem with Legion too. Although I really liked Legion by the time he arrived I was near done with the game and already had my team worked out so I never really used him. It's hard for me to bond with the late arrivals.

Yeah, tell me about it.  I get him, knock out his loyalty mission...and my crew is kidnapped.  The first time I played, without checking any walkthrough, I went with my gut and went to save them right away.  Turns out I made the right move, but I felt like I needed more time to get to know Legion better. 



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Yep, the devs have said that Varric isn't the party's best bud this time around.

Right. Not necessarily the Inquisitor's best bud either, I think. I think I could see him leaving the party if the Inquisitor is the aggressive and bloodthirsty type.



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Yep, the devs have said that Varric isn't the party's best bud this time around.

There weren't many big points of contention for the party in DA2. But this time, with the Breach and everyone having their own agenda...

 

Friction will ensue.


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Right. Not necessarily the Inquisitor's best bud either, I think. I think I could see him leaving the party if the Inquisitor is the aggressive and bloodthirsty type.

Oh, that'll be easy for me to avoid then. :P  I almost never play evil/rude characters, but I may have to see that waaaay down the road.



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Right. Not necessarily the Inquisitor's best bud either, I think. I think I could see him leaving the party if the Inquisitor is the aggressive and bloodthirsty type.

That's right, he won't be as loyal to the Inquisitor as he was to Hawke. In DA2, Varric was the only character without a "crisis moment". If Inquisition keeps the "crisis moments" I wonder what Varric's will be...

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True! Plus he's gonna be a bit more serious about stuff this time around because of his experiences, probably, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. Isn't gonna stop me from bringing him and Bull with me together all the time.  B)

 

I really hope they work out their differences early on. Do not want another game where my preferred team is all drama, drama, drama.

(seriously, why do I keep insisting on bringing Fenris and Anders everywhere?) 



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That was actually one of my problems with him. I couldn't stop thinking about Carth and it was distracting. But yes, Raphael Sbarge has a wonderful voice!

 

Carth was the reason I played through KotOR as a female. I just had no interest in Bastilla. (And Atton was the reason to play as female in KotOR2.)

 

... And now, I'm wishing we'd get to hear Sbarge in DAI. It would hardly be a Bioware game without him.


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I really hope they work out their differences early on. Do not want another game where my preferred team is all drama, drama, drama.

(seriously, why do I keep insisting on bringing Fenris and Anders everywhere?) 

 

I know.  :unsure: I'm hoping it won't hurt my friendship with Varric on my playthroughs romancing IB, I really hope... I know he's going to be a bit more sullen this time, but I know he's still a really understanding and kind guy at heart, that doesn't just go away.



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I wouldn't say Varric actually disliked Seb. More just didn't really 'get' him. I mean, Varric is a storyteller, he's used to the fact that every single person of importance has their good sides and their bad. It's part of what makes the great heroes, like Hawke, fascinating enough for him to make up the bullshit stories Cassandra loves so much.

 

But with Sebastian, Varric runs into a man who is so absolutely genuine, it throws him for a loop. Varric just doesn't understand how a person like Sebastian can exist. He's got to have some kind of angle, some sort of secret or private agenda, some flaw the creeps up now and again to bring Sebastian's dreams crashing down in a spectacular tragic ending. That's the world that Varric knows and expects. Sebastian's deadpan sense of humor doesn't help Varric's opinion of him. Their relationship begins with Varric thinking he's incapable of humor.

 

Over time, Varric gets to know Sebastian and the flaws the man has. But at first glance there doesn't appear to be much to work with. Varric could make an interesting and fascinating story about Sebastian. The problem is that there's not too much room for bullshit. That's not something that Varric is used to. So he spends half his time with Sebastian shaking his head in disbelief. The later later banter between them shows that the reach something of an understanding with one another.

 

  • Sebastian: Your Merchants Guild reminds me of the court at Starkhaven. Intrigue and gossip wrapped in a layer of formality.
  • Varric: If Starkhaven was a tenth as bad, I see why you took to the Chantry.
  • Sebastian: Fashion was the worst part. In the Chantry, I never have to worry whether doublets are meant to be fitted or padded this year.
  • Varric: In Starkhaven, do they bludgeon you to death for forgetting the name of a minor clerk's third daughter?
  • Sebastian: Only if you're lucky.
  • Varric: Choir Boy, suddenly your life makes much more sense to me.

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