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[Ajna]

That reminds me of this really sad confession I read a long time ago ...

 

 

I don't really like the Alistair from the comics or Hardened Alistair in general. He just isn't the same person and it makes me sort of sad that he's changed so much. Which is why in my canon Alistair, will forever be an unhardened Grey Warden.

This is my current playthrough (when I get around to finishing it...).  My canon is femCousland, so she's the Queen.  But...this feels good to me too, the only way to go for me with anything but a female noble.

[Mrs.Chestbeard]

This is my current playthrough (when I get around to finishing it...).  My canon is femCousland, so she's the Queen.  But...this feels good to me too, the only way to go for me with anything but a female noble.

 

My canon is fem Cousland as well but I'm debating on whether to change it to a mage/human warden instead. That way, I can have her related to Mage/Hawke and she'll also have a connection to Cullen in DA3. I love minor things like that but I also really like my dog in DAO and I can't have him as a mage. _{Decisions, decisions...}

 

I think both Anora and Alistair make great leaders, the only difference is one wants to be ruler and the other doesn't (unless Alistair is hardened but I already expressed my feelings about that.). So, I figure make Anora queen and keep Alistair a grey warden, everyone's happy! Plus, Anora is already in good standing with Orlais, so I didn't want to upset that balance because it might come in handy in DA3.

 

@Kath I personally believe that Loghain should pay for his crimes with his life. I never cared what his reasons were because I'm a firm believer of "the end doesn't justify the means." So, he always dies by Alistair's hands in my playthroughs. No exceptions.

[Yinello]

I also think Anora is a great ruler and never saw a reason to take the throne away from her. x3

[TheodoricFriede]

See, this is why i dont do extended universe.

 

It invariably ruins things.

 

As far as im concerned, Dragon Age is a video game series. If its not in the games, i dont need to acknowledge it.

[Yinello]

I think the biggest difficulty is having to explain to the fans what canon is and what isn't. I prefer the stories with completely new NPCs so that it's completely canon instead of having to use current NPCs and thus distorting with the many choices you get in game.

[GameBoyish]

I think the devs have already clarified that their canon does not have to be your canon. So don't worry too much.

[TheodoricFriede]

I think the biggest difficulty is having to explain to the fans what canon is and what isn't. I prefer the stories with completely new NPCs so that it's completely canon instead of having to use current NPCs and thus distorting with the many choices you get in game.

I dont even think they know whats canon most of the time.

 

Alister is probably going to be in DA:I.

 

I bet you anything he will be good old fun loving Alister, rather then whatever this comic Alister is.

 

Because people clearly like that Alister more. Even if he has been hardened.

 

And I support hardening Alister. I think it teaches him that the world is full of terrible people, and he cant just bend to their will. He needs to stand up for himself.

[Yinello]

I think the devs have already clarified that their canon does not have to be your canon. So don't worry too much.

 

I'm not too worried with characters like Alistair and all because that's obviously their canon. But when it comes to 'lore-battles' people always reference to specific things like the way templars behave in x book and how that is evidence of future templar behavior in DA:I. It's those small things that make me wonder if that's truly canon or just their canon.

[GameBoyish]

By default, the Warden does the Ultimate Sacrifice and DAA was settled by the Orlesian Warden.

But if your Warden did the OGB ritual and Alistair is still a Grey Warden or even a wandering drunkard, that's YOUR canon.

Heck, Alistair or Loghain can do the Ultimate Sacrifice too.

*sigh*

[Dirgegun]

Comic Alistair is like that simply because Mr. Gaider wanted to explore a story with a hardened, King Alistair, where he was the 'grounding' force in a party of him, Varric and Isabela. It's not even the 'canon'/default story the games use. The default story the games use simply ensure that the least amount of returning characters/issues happen, because new players won't know/care about stuff that was brought up in a game they never played.

 

The books and comics-- well, I can't speak for the comics, but the books definitely have canon significance. The events that happen in the books, however, will be changed and explained in the games in ways that match your canon. (For instance Wynne won't be involved in your Asunder events if she died in DA:O in your game.)

 

[Mrs.Chestbeard]

I dont even think they know whats canon most of the time.

 

Alister is probably going to be in DA:I.

 

I bet you anything he will be good old fun loving Alister, rather then whatever this comic Alister is.

 

Because people clearly like that Alister more. Even if he has been hardened.

 

And I support hardening Alister. I think it teaches him that the world is full of terrible people, and he cant just bend to their will. He needs to stand up for himself.

 

 

Maybe this will help you guys with the canon thing: (Quotes are all from David Gaider)

 

"The two prequel novels are canon-- there is nothing for them to conflict with.
And it is fine to assume that, if your particularly playthrough matches up with the events depicted in Asunder or the comics, those events occurred in the way they're portrayed and will be treated as such in future games. If your particular playthrough does not, then those events either happened differently or not at all. In a game we have the luxury of that kind of variability. In either case, you'll only see how it works once DA3 comes out".

 

And a few others for clarification:

 

"Alistair being King of Ferelden is not "canon", as in it does not affect the choices you made in your game nor override them. The comic is a tale based on one possible version of the game world... as it would need to be, being a comic book and not a video game, and thus unable to react to game decisions."

 

"All possible outcomes in the game are equally "valid", and there's no single canon that outside media are drawing from-- yet, anyhow, though that could work quite well if we wanted to do it that way.

So long as the stories told in comics or novels don't override your choices in future games, I'm uncertain of the source of anxiety regarding them. The choices have continuity between games because that's the only place where they can have it. If someone's looking for their choices to be reflected in comics and novels, they're being a tad optimistic... while I imagine it might be nice to have your particular game story be the basis for such tales, it's simply not possible to cover all possibilities without simply avoiding all references to earlier characters/storylines altogether. "

 

Hope this helps.

[GameBoyish]

And I support hardening Alister. I think it teaches him that the world is full of terrible people, and he cant just bend to their will. He needs to stand up for himself.

I too support hardening Alistair. Leliana too.

Sometimes some people need a slap in the face to mature.

It's like when my friend passed away all of a sudden a few weeks ago. I had to pick myself and learn to face the world.

[Ajna]

Confession of the morning:- Whenever I see Kat's name I feel compelled to make myself a cup of tea #beingenglish

[GameBoyish]

Omg there's already Fanfic for Varric/Quizzy???
http://archiveofouro...c Tethras/works

[TheodoricFriede]

I too support hardening Alistair. Leliana too.

Sometimes some people need a slap in the face to mature.

It's like when my friend passed away all of a sudden a few weeks ago. I had to pick myself and learn to face the world.

I always took it less as making him give up on his "light" and more making him realize that he cant just make jokes and do nothing.

 

He needs to make jokes and act.

 

I dont usually harden Liliana, but it seems like it would make seance given where her story has headed.

 

And im very sorry to hear that. Im sorry for your loss.

[Mrs.Chestbeard]

I also think Anora is a great ruler and never saw a reason to take the throne away from her. x3

 

I'm glad someone else thinks so, it seems to be a very unpopular opinion amongst the fandom.

 

@Kath You have my sincerest condolences for your loss dear.

[Dirgegun]

I also think Anora is a great ruler and never saw a reason to take the throne away from her. x3

 

I'm glad someone else thinks so, it seems to be a very unpopular opinion amongst the fandom.

 

Anooooora, my queen! I love her! ;n;

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I also think Anora is a great ruler and never saw a reason to take the throne away from her. x3

I'm the same. Anora has always stayed Queen of Ferelden in my games. I look forward to seeing her again in Inquisition. 

[Yinello]

Omg there's already Fanfic for Varric/Quizzy???
http://archiveofouro...c Tethras/works

 

Haha, nice~

[GameBoyish]

And im very sorry to hear that. Im sorry for your loss.

Thanks. It's bizarre when someone who usually acts as the "Only Sane One", who acts as the shoulder to cry on, just suddenly is no longer present in your life.

And when all of us were mourning her death, we all said that normally we would leave her a message and she'll cheer us up. But who do we go to now?

It really was a turning point for many of us.

Anyway, back on topic, if Varric is mourning his loss of Bianca, I think DA:I would be the perfect time for him to move on.

[Ajna]

Anora doesn't have to worry she'll be Queen in everything but my noble world states

[Ajna]

Thanks. It's bizarre when someone who usually acts as the "Only Sane One", who acts as the shoulder to cry on, just suddenly is no longer present in your life.

And when all of us were mourning her death, we all said that normally we would leave her a message and she'll cheer us up. But who do we go to now?

It really was a turning point for many of us.

Anyway, back on topic, if Varric is mourning his loss of Bianca, I think DA:I would be the perfect time for him to move on.

*morebigsquishyhugsforkat*

[Mrs.Chestbeard]

Anooooora, my queen! I love her! ;n;

 

Haha, I love her too!

 

I just wish people would understand that you can like Alistair as king of Ferelden without hating Anora and the same the other way around. *le sigh*
 

[Yinello]

Thanks. It's bizarre when someone who usually acts as the "Only Sane One", who acts as the shoulder to cry on, just suddenly is no longer present in your life.

And when all of us were mourning her death, we all said that normally we would leave her a message and she'll cheer us up. But who do we go to now?

It really was a turning point for many of us.

Anyway, back on topic, if Varric is mourning his loss of Bianca, I think DA:I would be the perfect time for him to move on.

 

*many hugs* I can't say I know what it's like but I can understand. It's hard when the crux of your world suddenly gets kicked away.

 

I would totally be there to help Varric move on, even as a good friend.

[Feybrad]

I have a... ummm... conflicted Opinion about Anora, but I reeeeally hate hardening Alistair. I did it once, even in my "good Guy" Playtrough, so I could sacrifice Loghain AND have him be king, but it didn't feel good. The Ending negated the harshness a bit, but it was a Thing that I didn't like.

 

Never again have I hardened anyone. I feel like this Innocence, Naivete and Optimism both Leliana and Alistair have, is something very precious in the World of Dragon Age. In my Opinion, People who are able to preserve this despite all the **** they see and go trough, are much stronger than People - like for Example, Morrigan - that turn to Cynicism and social Darwinism instead. The People who are able to still hold on to Idealism have much stronger Resolve and I hate to destroy that.

 

To get back to Varric, I think, he also has this Idealism and Optimism, still. He holds on to Hawke even when everyone else leaves him/her behind. If I can do anything in Inquisition to preserve this Mindset, I will do it.