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Varric the Storyteller: Keeping us company in the Keep


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My hunch is that one of the unannounced LIs will be a bi ungated male because Iron Bull was originally gated. But predicting the gates is really hard with so little info. I think Varric, Cassandra and Vivienne sound more likely to be gated.

 

My monies on Sera



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Jewlie Ghoulie

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I'm curious to know who everyone thinks will be gated from the known LI's now haha

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My hunch is that one of the unannounced LIs will be a bi ungated male because Iron Bull was originally gated. But predicting the gates is really hard with so little info. I think Varric, Cassandra and Vivienne sound more likely to be gated.

 

I've been analyzing the crap out of this ever since the Building a Better Romance forum happened. I've been trying not to yammer everyone's ears off, but if you want to hear my theories I'm happy to pull them out.



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I hope Varric isn't a gated LI.  I can see him and Iron Bull being my when-in-doubt LIs.


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#14005
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I thought you wanted him as an LI Clockworks! O_O

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I'm curious to know who everyone thinks will be gated from the known LI's now haha

 

Cullen. No question.


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Cullen. No question.

To be honest, I've been leaning towards that as well.
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I've been analyzing the crap out of this ever since the Building a Better Romance forum happened. I've been trying not to yammer everyone's ears off, but if you want to hear my theories I'm happy to pull them out.

 

Sure, go ahead  :)



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I'm really very torn. I would love for Vivi to be romanceable but with Solas being "almost confirmed" I really think the last 2 will be Solas and Varric.

In which case I'm looking forward to Vivi coming back in a later DA game and follow in the proud Bioware tradition of come-back-romanceable characters. Like Garrus, Tali, Anders, Merrill and of course, Varric ;)
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I've been analyzing the crap out of this ever since the Building a Better Romance forum happened. I've been trying not to yammer everyone's ears off, but if you want to hear my theories I'm happy to pull them out.


For love of Andraste! Yammer away!!

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Apart of me will cry if Viv is not a romance. I really want to romance her with a human female Mage ugh T_T

But, if I have Varric... Yay!

And if it's Solas who takes her place that would definitely soften the blow because I really want to romance him too
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Sure, go ahead  :)

 

*cracks knuckles*

 

Okay, we know from BaBR that all race/gender/sexuality combos have at least two options. We know Iron Bull was race-gated, and that his writing was done before Epler changed that. (They specifically said they had to "go back and remove" dialogue after he was done with the race-gate.) So it's a pretty safe bet that, from a balance perspective, Iron Bull was treated as if he was race-gated. So we've got at least one guy who's into women, and at least one guy who's into men. Possibly the same character. Nothing too surprising.

 

We know one of our known LIs is race-gated. So we still don't have a solid 2/2/2 split. If Cassandra or Sera are race-gated, Vivienne's definitely in just to cover the gap. If Cullen or Dorian are race-gated, that might not mean anything, since they could be balanced with Iron Bull and our mystery third.

 

Here's my speculation, though. I don't think Sera or Dorian are race-gated, because they're the first same-sex-only companions BioWare's had in a while, which is kind of a big deal. I don't think Cassandra's race-gated, since she was described as "secretly a romantic" in her character interview. (Which might not mean anything, but they hinted at Iron Bull being race-gated during his interview, so it's something to go on.) That leaves Cullen, which makes sense, since he's had unfavorable things to say about dwarves (DA:O) and qunari (DA2). The thing is, if Cullen is race-gated, and Iron Bull was race-gated, then that leaves both characters probably blocked from dwarves. That would leave straight female dwarves with zero options, which would mean the last two options are both men. You'd need to cover every eventuality Cullen and Iron Bull miss, so that would mean either one straight and one bisexual guy, or two bisexuals.

 

Judging from Solas' VA's comments, he's probably in right now. He's also probably not race-gated, like I mentioned earlier. And since the last character needs to be race-gated, and I don't think Blackwall is, that'd leave Varric as our second.


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My monies on Sera

 

This would make me sad. D:

 

 

I'm curious to know who everyone thinks will be gated from the known LI's now haha

 

My guess is Cullen or Cass... more likely Cullen.

 

edit: Nice thinking, Foe! I can see where you're coming from, it makes sense. :D



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I like Foe's theory. ;P

 

And I'm more for Cullen.

 

Who do you think Cass would be gated against if she is gated?

 

Not elves I hope because I have a male elf warrior planned for her T.T. She's the first DA character I feel like I /need/ to play a male to romance. Of course, thats the only way I CAN romance her, but my point is, I  want to badly that I'll play male PC which I didn't do in DA:O or DA2 .


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I like Foe's theory. ;P

 

And I'm more for Cullen.

 

Who do you think Cass would be gated against if she is gated?

 

Not elves I hope because I have a male elf warrior planned for her T.T. She's the first DA character I feel like I /need/ to play a male to romance. Of course, thats the only way I CAN romance her, but my point is, I  want to badly that I'll play male PC which I didn't do in DA:O or DA2 .

 

I seriously doubt she'd be gated against qunari - she seemed pretty knowledgeable about their culture when she was discussing them with Varric in Mark of the Assassin. That's not much to go on, but it's something. Dwarves or elves I could see.


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I think your speculation has a lot of merit.

 

I'd be happy if that was the case. Varric being race-gated wouldn't be surprising and Cullen being gated against dwarves and qunari wouldn't mess with my plans either. Other popular guesses would be trouble for me xD


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Hmm, I said Cassandra was a possible gated LI on the last page but the more I think about it the less it makes sense.



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I think your speculation has a lot of merit.

 

I'd be happy if that was the case. Varric being race-gated wouldn't be surprising and Cullen being gated against dwarves and qunari wouldn't mess with my plans either. Other popular guesses would be trouble for me xD

 

What's funny is I was planning on romancing Cullen with a qunari, so I'd have to change my plans if my own speculation turns out to be true. Ah well.  :lol:



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Although I highly doubt it, maaaaybe Solas is raced gated against humans? I say this because we all know that elves and humans have a tarnished history and while Solas has no ties with the Dalish, I'm sure he's suffered at one time or another from Theda's enslaving elves.

Again, I doubt it. Just a thought.

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I seriously doubt she'd be gated against qunari - she seemed pretty knowledgeable about their culture when she was discussing them with Varric in Mark of the Assassin. That's not much to go on, but it's something. Dwarves or elves I could see.

Nuuh. Plz Cassandra-senpai.

 

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I seriously doubt she'd be gated against qunari - she seemed pretty knowledgeable about their culture when she was discussing them with Varric in Mark of the Assassin. That's not much to go on, but it's something. Dwarves or elves I could see.


She's never said anything against elves or dwarves so I doubt it

#14022
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Everyone seems to think Solas if LI would be gated against dwarves.

 

I wouldn't mind this personally as I wouldn't romance him with a dwarf.

 

I would..and probably will romance IB with a dwarf...and well, pretty much anyone else but Cullen, Solas, and Vivienne (if they were LI)

 

For Cullen, when I eventually do his romance I will probably go with an elf rogue or maybe a mage just so I can have another mage play through to counter act my million warrior/rogues I have planned. Haha



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Although I highly doubt it, maaaaybe Solas is raced gated against humans? I say this because we all know that elves and humans have a tarnished history and while Solas has no ties with the Dalish, I'm sure he's suffered at one up not or another from Theda's enslaving elves.

Again, I doubt it. Just a thought.

 

I definitely don't want to say it's impossible, but going from his interview, he apparently gets annoyed at people who see him first and foremost as an elf. It'd be pretty hypocritical if he refused to romance someone because of their race.

 

Someone did make the suggestion that he'd be race-gated against dwarves and maybe qunari, because he's a Fade nut and dwarves don't dream. But the characters are already aligned against dwarves pretty heavily, so I don't think it's likely.

 

Edit: Jewlie beat me to it.


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#14024
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Nuuh. Plz Cassandra-senpai.

 

Love your Elf Kouhai...

 

Cass got over her attraction to lithe and lanky!

 

:D



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I really don't think Solas would be gated. Otherwise they gave us the complete wrong impression with all the focus on him not being judgmental. And I really hope Sera is not gated against humans.