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[Mukora]

White Isabela bugged me a whole lot. I think she's amazing and sexy just as she is...

 

And I also found it racist, but maybe that's me taking it to far.

No. It's definitely racist. Whitewashing, whether it be in fanart or mods, is racist. Especially when the mod is labeled as "Better Isabela" or "More attractive Isabela."

 

I think it's the fact that you basically don't see mods that change companions to have darker skin. Just white Isabela.

There is one that I know of- and it's pretty nice. Ferelden Racelift.

[Clockwork_Wings]

So back where I was speculating that Varric does, "Previously, on Dragon Age..." segments?  Perhaps the dialog is all pre-scripted based on what the final decision was, since the ones that weren't there aren't going to hear the subtle nuances of things that the player might, like the warden wanting to spare all available mages because mercy, but getting less and less sure as s/he goes up the tower, eventually deciding better safe than sorry.  But the combat is player controlled, and perhaps worth some bonus EXP, at least on the first telling.

 

 

Varric:  And then our hero burst through the door, to find the mage healer Wynne, guarding the mage children. 

*Wynne looks much like DA2 Flemeth and is aggressively posed, her staff held in front of her, paralell to the floor*

Wynne:  You'll not harm these children while I still draw breath!

Varric:  Our hero calmly looked into the old sage's eyes and saw the essence of faith itself, and knew s/he'd found an ally.  Her/his words calmed the mage, and, lead by the spirit of faith, came to the top of the tower, where...

*Uldred in full pride mode, no preceding dialog, fight begins*

Varric: With the creature slain, our hero helped the first enchanter to his feet and escorted him to the floor where the templars waited...

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Same, even though I romanced Anders more because I love chaos and destruction muahaha Isabela is just... umph. Of course her looks are great, but I just get weak knees at the free spirit personality, which is why I know I'll probably feel the same way about Sera. On the other hand, most of my DA2 artwork was of Isabela (including my current icon) because I just found her so visually appealing I wanted to draw her more. and more. 

If Varric was an LI back then though, I dunno how much of a chance anyone else would have had. xD

Your Icon is lovely by the way, I've been meaning to say that.

 

Actually, my icon I made in a doll maker for RPG heroines, and it's pretty much my Myrianni Mahariel which was my DA:O play through I just did. I am Japanese and have fairly light skin, but I do think darker skin tones are so lovely so I did like Zevran, Fenris, and Isabela of course skin tone of course, so seeing that mod just made me sooo mad.

 

I love it on Vivienne as well and Dorian too (though I was never interested in him as an LI)

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

So back where I was speculating that Varric does, "Previously, on Dragon Age..." segments?  Perhaps the dialog is all pre-scripted based on what the final decision was, since the ones that weren't there aren't going to hear the subtle nuances of things that the player might, like the warden wanting to spare all available mages because mercy, but getting less and less sure as s/he goes up the tower, eventually deciding better safe than sorry.  But the combat is player controlled, and perhaps worth some bonus EXP, at least on the first telling.

 

 

Varric:  And then our hero burst through the door, to find the mage healer Wynne, guarding the mage children. 

*Wynne looks much like DA2 Flemeth and is aggressively posed, her staff held in front of her, paralell to the floor*

Wynne:  You'll not harm these children while I still draw breath!

Varric:  Our hero calmly looked into the old sage's eyes and saw the essence of faith itself, and knew s/he'd found an ally.  Her/his words calmed the mage, and, lead by the spirit of faith, came to the top of the tower, where...

*Uldred in full pride mode, no preceding dialog, fight begins*

Varric: With the creature slain, our hero helped the first enchanter to his feet and escorted him to the floor where the templars waited...

I think that would be really cool.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I think that would be really cool.

I think it would be the best route, really.  No matter how many times they get told NO CHARACTER CREATOR IN THE KEEP, people keep wanting it for the warden, or fearing they'll have a default warden or Hawke.  If Varric's telling stories, I don't expect him to tell what really happened, but I do expect him to hit the high points.  He never met the warden, so he wouldn't know what he looked like, he'd just know whether they annulled the circle or not.

[Mukora]

I doubt they'd actually physically depict the events.

 

I imagine, if they do have it, and I really hope they do, it'll be much like Leliana's stories in Origins.

[Chernaya]

Your Icon is lovely by the way, I've been meaning to say that.

 

Actually, my icon I made in a doll maker for RPG heroines, and it's pretty much my Myrianni Mahariel which was my DA:O play through I just did. I am Japanese and have fairly light skin, but I do think darker skin tones are so lovely so I did like Zevran, Fenris, and Isabela of course skin tone of course, so seeing that mod just made me sooo mad.

 

I love it on Vivienne as well and Dorian too (though I was never interested in him as an LI)

Aw thanks. I like yours as well, it looks so much like a detailed character I'm surprised it was made in a doll maker, it must be a really good one!

I'm not exactly fair skinned, but not quite as dark as Isabela. I think all skin tones are beautiful to be honest, but we so rarely get to see the darker tones in games that I find myself appreciating them a bit more I suppose. :3 I'm all for a rainbow of different characters, and have had several of my wardens/hawkes as both light and dark complected. ~

And yes I do think it looks very nice on Viv and Dorian I'm not particularly interested in either as an LI, but as characters I'm very interested in both of them... xD Irl I would clash with someone like Viv (I'm a much more practical person like Sera) but that doesn't necessarily mean I won't like her. I'm glad they added in more than one PoC this time Scribbles too! Even though we don't know much about her haha.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

I doubt they'd actually physically depict the events.

 

I imagine, if they do have it, and I really hope they do, it'll be much like Leliana's stories in Origins.

This seems most likely, even if I thought the other suggestion was really cool.

[Chernaya]

I think it would be the best route, really.  No matter how many times they get told NO CHARACTER CREATOR IN THE KEEP, people keep wanting it for the warden, or fearing they'll have a default warden or Hawke.  If Varric's telling stories, I don't expect him to tell what really happened, but I do expect him to hit the high points.  He never met the warden, so he wouldn't know what he looked like, he'd just know whether they annulled the circle or not.

That's a really nice idea... now I really want it to happen. The more Varric stories, the better! Especially if that's how we'll hear of our previous characters. 

[Twilight_Princess]

The only mod I want to see of Varric is to have him shirtless throughout the entirety of the game THAT IS ALL XD. According to the comic ,  dude's ripped under there

 

 

[Clockwork_Wings]

I doubt they'd actually physically depict the events.

 

I imagine, if they do have it, and I really hope they do, it'll be much like Leliana's stories in Origins.

I'm picturing the opening from DA2, with Varric just...really overdoing it.  So in my head, it's the warden with maybe one other companion, in warden-commander armor, and Wynne is pretending to be Flemeth for some reason, Uldred just skips speaking entirely in favor of wonton destruction...Kind of a shorter, more actiony summary of the game.  The dialog would be scripted with no input from the player, based on what the final verdict was.

[Chernaya]

The only mod I want to see of Varric is to have him shirtless throughout the entirety of the game THAT IS ALL XD. According to comic ,  dude's ripped under there

 

 

[GameBoyish]

No. It's definitely racist. Whitewashing, whether it be in fanart or mods, is racist. Especially when the mod is labeled as "Better Isabela" or "More attractive Isabela."

 

Somebody actually changed Dorian, to look fair skinned, blonde and clean shaven.

It's disturbing to say the least.

 

There's a good Tumblr post about the disturbing problem of whitewashing in the modding community.

[Mukora]

This seems most likely, even if I thought the other suggestion was really cool.

It's certainly a cool idea. Just unlikely.

 

Though, really, I don't know why Varric would be telling us stories about the Warden, anyway. I'd kinda prefer Leliana being the one to do it.

[Chernaya]

Yeah, I've seen that Dorian pic unfortunately. :c Sometimes I think people just do it because they know they'll get reactions and they get a rise out of it. *sigh*

[GameBoyish]

It's certainly a cool idea. Just unlikely.

 

Though, really, I don't know why Varric would be telling us stories about the Warden, anyway. I'd kinda prefer Leliana being the one to do it.

I wonder what happens if Leliana isn't recruited into DAO...

 

Yeah, I've seen that Dorian pic unfortunately. :c Sometimes I think people just do it because they know they'll get reactions and they get a rise out of it. *sigh*

It was 4chan, so yeah. But it isn't any less disturbing.

 

~

 

ANYWAY, back to Varric lolz.

 

http://fuckyeahvarri...varrictethras-i

 

I'd also like to remind those of you posting fanart to add the source link as well? I really don't want to upset the artists (my sister is an artist herself).

[Clockwork_Wings]

Somebody actually changed Dorian, to look fair skinned, blonde and clean shaven.

It's disturbing to say the least.

 

There's a good Tumblr post about the disturbing problem of whitewashing in the modding community.

 

 

Yeah, I've seen that Dorian pic unfortunately. :c Sometimes I think people just do it because they know they'll get reactions and they get a rise out of it. *sigh*

 

I read that was an early idea for his character model.  I don't remember what the article said about why it was changed. 

 

I find it interesting that Dorian wears white.  It makes me wonder if he's the most "morally pure" of the companions. 

 

Back on Varric:

 

 

It's certainly a cool idea. Just unlikely.

 

Though, really, I don't know why Varric would be telling us stories about the Warden, anyway. I'd kinda prefer Leliana being the one to do it.

I figured Varric would be the one using the most hyperbole and thus less likely to need different cinematics. 

[Chernaya]

I should try drawing some Varric fanart...I'm not confident in my dwarf drawing skills, but it would be cool to learn something new nonetheless.

[GameBoyish]

I read that was an early idea for his character model.  I don't remember what the article said about why it was changed. 

 

I find it interesting that Dorian wears white.  It makes me wonder if he's the most "morally pure" of the companions. 

 

Back on Varric:

 

 

I figured Varric would be the one using the most hyperbole and thus less likely to need different cinematics. 

Apparently it was made by a 4chan troll. Doesn't mean it's acceptable though.

 

Varric and his exaggerations are the best!

[GameBoyish]

Found some new fanart:

http://jerhopp.devia...eedom-464787809

[Chernaya]

Oooh interesting style! Very well done. That Inquisitor has some glorious hair, haha. 

[Clockwork_Wings]

Apparently it was made by a 4chan troll. Doesn't mean it's acceptable though.

 

Varric and his exaggerations are the best!

It seems to me there was an article by a dev saying that was the plan, to have him pale and blond.  I wondered if they were doing what Alistair is, a play on the "white knight" archetype (thought it was neat when I realized Alistair is the classic dragonslayer type.  At one time, he'd have been the main character, not the warden).  I find it interesting that Dorian wears mostly white and is the opposite of the other Teveniter magisters, as though they're trying to show his "good boy" status. 

 

Of course, white would show wealth as well.  White clothes in this time period can only be worn once, and then have to be thrown away.

 

...how did this go from Varric to whitewashing mods?

[GameBoyish]

...how did this go from Varric to whitewashing mods?

[Grieving Natashina]

Found some new fanart:

http://jerhopp.devia...eedom-464787809

 

<ignoring the whitewashing talk just like I did in Dorian's thread>

 

That's a cool style, although the Quizzy's (?) hairstyle is throwing me off a little.  

[GameBoyish]

You know, I kinda miss back when "Varric = Fabio" was a meme.

 

(click for full list of pictures)

 

 

Maker knows we need more Varric romance novels for DAI.

 

Can you think of any terribly punny names?

 

Varric/Iron Bull: Something with "horny" in the title.

 

Varric/Sera: ???

 

Varric/Cass: (there's one above with the unicorn)

 

Varric/Dorian: Mustache joke is needed.

 

Varric/Cullen: ???

 

Varric/Blackwall: ???

 

Varric/Vivi: ???

 

Varric/Solas: ???

 

Varric/Cole: ???