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Varric the Storyteller: Keeping us company in the Keep


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Pretty sure this was done to reward scouting and taking control of party members to coordinate. I think it's an interesting idea, but most are going to get immediately angry and probably blame it on consoles.

 

It's a shame as they can't win either way, if the devs didn't change anything there would be people complaining that they are lazy and expect them accept a repackaged DA2 UI and if they change it, they get people complaining about the changes.lol.


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It's a shame as they can't win either way, if the devs didn't change anything there would be people complaining that they are lazy and expect them accept a repackaged DA2 UI and if they change it, they get people complaining about the changes.lol.

Yep! There's even a trope for that.


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It's a shame as they can't win either way, if the devs didn't change anything there would be people complaining that they are lazy and expect them accept a repackaged DA2 UI and if they change it, they get people complaining about the changes.lol.

Oh well, if they want to get upset and cancel their preorder they can go right ahead. But I'm personally quite intrigued with this decision. 


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#18454
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Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Oh well, if they want to get upset and cancel their preorder they can go right ahead. But I'm personally quite intrigued with this decision. 

 

Oh well, just means more copies for us then.



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That thread is bad. I may not like only having 8 abilities, but it's not the console players fault (they have the same 8 slots). Bioware obviously overhauled the combat system, and that's actually a good thing. Mages were so OP in the earlier games, it was almost ridiculous. People need to calm down and give it a go before declaring this the worst thing since the ME3 ending controversy. 

 

Edit: And the UI is beautiful, I love it



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So Blackwall AND Solas have been given suggestive tweets very recently...is there a good chance they are the last two?


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That thread is bad. I may not like only having 8 abilities, but it's not the console players fault (they have the same 8 slots). Bioware obviously overhauled the combat system, and that's actually a good thing. Mages were so OP in the earlier games, it was almost ridiculous. People need to calm down and give it a go before declaring this the worst thing since the ME3 ending controversy. 

 

Edit: And the UI is beautiful, I love it

Yeah, I don't understand the "It's because of consoles !" line of thought. I don't think many console players like it much either. We'll just have to wait and see.



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So Blackwall AND Solas have been given suggestive tweets very recently...is there a good chance they are the last two?

That's what I'm hoping for, though I don't look forward to the sh!t storm it'll cause if that's the case.


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So Blackwall AND Solas have been given suggestive tweets very recently...is there a good chance they are the last two?

 

I would be so sad for Viviennes fans but I would be so happy for myself (omg did you see the Blackwall screenshots from the demo? Hello sexy!). And if it's true, then I think it's safe to assume that the racial restrictions will be for two of the males. 


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I would be so sad for Viviennes fans but I would be so happy for myself (omg did you see the Blackwall screenshots from the demo? Hello sexy!). And if it's true, then I think it's safe to assume that the racial restrictions will be for two of the males. 

Yeah, I'd feel bad for Viv fans. But someone has to get the short end of the stick. not saying it should be them, but it has to be someone.



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Yeah, I don't understand the "It's because of consoles !" line of thought. I don't think many console players like it much either. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

It's stupid. Have there been instances where PC is crippled because of console ports? Oh yes (looking at you, Ubisoft). But that is not the case with DAI, they restricted the consoles too. I think combat will be very different from the earlier games, and I'm gonna try it out first before I scream about how bad this is.



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Yeah, I'd feel bad for Viv fans. But someone has to get the short end of the stick. not saying it should be them, but it has to be someone.

 

It's the sad truth. Maybe I should join you in the Blackwall thread, but after Varric... I don't want to get excited over nothing again. But I want to climb the wall so bad!  


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It's stupid. Have there been instances where PC is crippled because of console ports? Oh yes (looking at you, Ubisoft). But that is not the case with DAI, they restricted the consoles too. I think combat will be very different from the earlier games, and I'm gonna try it out first before I scream about how bad this is.

That's my line of thinking, at the moment I'm intrigued and that's about it. I like the idea that scouting will help you prepare for a mission by giving you an idea of what you'll face. I also like the idea that coordinating abilities is important. Could be great, could just cripple the whole game. But like you said, we need to play it first.


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It's the sad truth. Maybe I should join you in the Blackwall thread, but after Varric... I don't want to get excited over nothing again. But I want to climb the wall so bad!  

It's a pretty good place, lots of intelligent discussion. When we're not discussing Blackwalls glorious beard and muscles anyway.

 

As for getting excited, I say we remain cautiously optimistic. There's a bit of evidence pointing to Blackwall, more then Viv at least.

 

And after Varric, even if Blackwall isn't an LI. I'm prepared for the disappointment.


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That's my line of thinking, at the moment I'm intrigued and that's about it. I like the idea that scouting will help you prepare for a mission by giving you an idea of what you'll face. I also like the idea that coordinating abilities is important. Could be great, could just cripple the whole game. But like you said, we need to play it first.

 

I agree But isn't it funny? They have said multiple times that the combat will be more tactical and everyone cheered. Then people get mad when they realize that OMG this may be hard. You may have to use your brain xD


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It's a pretty good place, lots of intelligent discussion. When we're not discussing Blackwalls glorious beard and muscles anyway.

 

As for getting excited, I say we remain cautiously optimistic. There's a bit of evidence pointing to Blackwall, more then Viv at least.

 

And after Varric, even if Blackwall isn't an LI. I'm prepared for the disappointment.

 

I may pop in later, I don't even think I've ever posted there. I've been lurking a bit though, lot's and lot's of glorious fan art (I suppose that's only natural when Aimo's a regular poster)



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I agree But isn't it funny? They have said multiple times that the combat will be more tactical and everyone cheered. Then people get mad when they realize that OMG this may be hard. You may have to use your brain xD

In total you'll have 32 abilities among your party, that's not counting passive buffs. I think theirs plenty of room for flexibility there, though I dunno how successful an all of a single class party would be. You'd have to be very careful about how you spend your skillpoints to make sure every ones abilities have some synergy. 



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I may pop in later, I don't even think I've ever posted there. I've been lurking a bit though, lot's and lot's of glorious fan art (I suppose that's only natural when Aimo's a regular poster)

Aimo is one of the best parts of being a Blackwall fan. The girl has some amazing talent.

 

On the subject of how his close up pictures looked. He looked...surprisingly young. Like early-mid 40's, and absolutely gorgeous...Those eyes *Swoon* 



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In total you'll have 32 abilities among your party, that's not counting passive buffs. I think theirs plenty of room for flexibility there, though I dunno how successful an all of a single class party would be. You'd have to be very careful about how you spend your skillpoints to make sure every ones abilities have some synergy. 

 

Sounds perfect to me. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on it! 

 

Aimo is one of the best parts of being a Blackwall fan. The girl has some amazing talent.

 

On the subject of how his close up pictures looked. He looked...surprisingly young. Like early-mid 40's, and absolutely gorgeous...Those eyes *Swoon* 

 

So true, she's amazing!

 

And yes, I was so surprised at that. I figured he'd look older, but I'm not complaining. He's so hot! I suppose if he's not available, then my female quizzy will have a spectacular harem party of unavailable men (Dorian, Blackwall and Varric). So much eye candy!


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Sounds perfect to me. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on it! 

 

 

So true, she's amazing!

 

And yes, I was so surprised at that. I figured he'd look older, but I'm not complaining. He's so hot! I suppose if he's not available, then my female quizzy will have a spectacular harem party of unavailable men (Dorian, Blackwall and Varric). So much eye candy!

I still can't believe how handsome they made Varric, and then didn't make him an LI. 

 

But let's not open old wounds. Blackwall looks damn fine. As does Solas even though I'm not a fan of bald guys. Viv is both beautiful and badass looking. I know most don't like the horns, but I think they suit her.



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I still can't believe how handsome they made Varric, and then didn't make him an LI. 

 

But let's not open old wounds. Blackwall looks damn fine. As does Solas even though I'm not a fan of bald guys. Viv is both beautiful and badass looking. I know most don't like the horns, but I think they suit her.

 

I have no likes left! :( but I agree, they are all so attractive. And I love the horns. they're awesome.


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I'm playing through The Golems of Amgarrak because I never have, I had to put Jerrik in Varric's armour...I couldn't help myself...



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I'm playing through The Golems of Amgarrak because I never have, I had to put Jerrik in Varric's armour...I couldn't help myself...

I never played that DLC. I only played through Awakening once and really only remember a few characters and the main plot.



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I never played that DLC. I only played through Awakening once and really only remember a few characters and the main plot.

He's voiced by Brian Bloom so it's worth it just for that haha.


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