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Varric the Storyteller: Keeping us company in the Keep


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THIS. Nat, you are so on point with your comments that I sometimes catch myself nodding along while I read them. You know in that "You tell em gurl" kind of way XD. I've said this before and I'll say it again, Bianca being available for Varric is not a certainty.  Just because someone wants them back together doesn't mean it's 100% going to happen. The same way me hoping he's an LI doesn't make it so simply because it's something that I'd like to see happen. It's all theory at the moment. I know it sounds ridiculous that I have to say this but I can't count the number of times I've read things like this;

 

"he can't be a romance because of Bianca"

 

and more comments of this nature. There's this attitude that Bianca is absolutely getting back together with Varric, no if ands or buts about it. Here's the thing, no one knows how the Bianca plot will conclude. Maybe there is a happy reunion! And that's fine! But, it's also possible that Bioware won't go that route. 10 years (wait isn't it more?) is a looooong time. It's possible Bianca could have found someone else during that time or has a new life with a family now *shrug*.

Maybe, just maybe Varric's storyline is actually about letting go. It would make sense. He hates being outside his comfort zone (doesn't like change) this was highlighted in a recent interview. He has a reluctance that he might have to overcome in order for his character to develop and grow. Maybe Bianca is actually part of that process. Maybe he needs to see her again so that he can accept things have changed. Maybe she's happy and has no ill feelings towards him anymore. Maybe all he needs is her forgiveness for not going with her and letting her down all those years ago. Maybe it's closure that Varric craves most of all. He spends all his time re-telling stories of others so maybe his arc will be about starting a new chapter for himself instead of clinging on to what's old and familiar (Bianca, Kirkwall etc).

The point is I'm prepared for his story arc to go in a number of directions (that goes for his romance status also) , I can't say the same for some other posters. And I worry how they will react if Varric doesn't get back together with Bianca even if they DO see each other again.

 

 

One word , Garrus. As you can see ,he's still very much the "Bro" of Mass Effect despite his awkdorkable romance with Shepard.

 

I'm not really expecting him to end up with a Disney princess ending like the people you mentioned. It'd be too sappy and cliche' and given DAI's setting they seem to be wanting to show a more broken side to Varric. I'm thinking it'll go more the route of Alistair and Goldanna unfortunately. Your excited for him to finally see his sister again and think they'll be so happy together....then you meet her and *BAM* total heartbreak. ugh, I still hate her for doing that to poor Alistair.

 

Varric's love for Bianca has been too-much of a center point for his character and I just know it's going to end tragically.

 

Oh! And good morning everyone! :wizard:



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Afternoon/evening! Battery is almost dead again *sigh*

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^ *looks at time* Holy cow, it is afternoon....I must've slept in really late! :blink:



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Morning to you too.

 

Hope you're doing well, everyone!



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Is to me :D

Almost evening in fact...

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I hope very much that if Varric is a Romance option there is a part in his story line where you might find that Bianca is still alive and you can choose to brake it off with him so he can be with her. I might seem sad but O think if done right it could be incredibly romantic and bittersweet.
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Is to me :D

Almost evening in fact...

Oh yeah. You're in the UK huh? I used to live in England for a lil while.


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#1883
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Is to me :D

Almost evening in fact...

 

Really? For me it's just about to hit twelve noon.



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1040am here for me.  G'morning/afternoon Mrs. Chestbeard!

 

I hope very much that if Varric is a Romance option there is a part in his story line where you might find that Bianca is still alive and you can choose to brake it off with him so he can be with her. I might seem sad but O think if done right it could be incredibly romantic and bittersweet.

That doesn't sound like a half bad idea.  And welcome to the Varric fan thread!  If you're a Varricmancer like many of us are, you're not alone.  We're not the only Varricmancers left on the BSN, just the ones that are the loudest and that refuse to give up until WoG demands that we have to.   ;)



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The second part of the gameplay demo made me cry....so many feelz, emo overload...



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LOL!

 

 

So, i'm kinda curious about something guys...If  worst case scenario  Varric doesn't end up being a romance, who are your inquisitors going to end up with?

 

I'm thinking Cullen for me, might go for Iron bull on one of my playthroughs though (assuming he's an option). Nobody else really piques my interest in that department so far. :?

Sera and Cullen... they are both so different but I'm interested to see both of their romances! Also, they are both adorable!



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why is it that every time i see the "its raining demons" clip i think that phrase is gonna turn into the new swooping is bad

 

How can you think anything during that clip? My whole brain just turns off while I stare...



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The second part of the gameplay demo made me cry....so many feelz, emo overload...

 

I know! I just watched it, poor Leliana...She's definitely changed alot since origins. And that cliffhanger at the end was nail-biting! :?  I wonder how it's gonna turn out. Alot of people are saying that they'll probably send Cullen for that mission instead but what if it turns out that Leliana is actually the better option (despite what we've seen) and survives but Cullen dies. I could see Bioware trying to trick us into thinking one thing is going to happen, then have it be a total different outcome.



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I know! I just watched it, poor Leliana...She's definitely changed alot since origins. And that cliffhanger at the end was nail-biting! :?  I wonder how it's gonna turn out. Alot of people are saying that they'll probably send Cullen for that mission instead but what if it turns out that Leliana is actually the better option (despite what we've seen) and survives but Cullen dies. I could see Bioware trying to trick us into thinking one thing is going to happen, then have it be a total different outcome from what it seems.

Yeah, lets just send Josephine to give them a good talking to...

 

In all seriousness though, it wasn't just the Leliana thing, it was just...seeing and hearing it all properly...

 

But you're right about being tricked, it really wouldn't surprise me if one lives and one dies depending on your choice...wow it's so scary...



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Sera and Cullen... they are both so different but I'm interested to see both of their romances! Also, they are both adorable!

Crap, I don't think I answered this question last night.  For now, unless Varric is in the game, I'd have to play the game and see who's personality I like more.  On a purely surface level, I'm not interested in any of the other companions yet.



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That's one thing I don't get!!! How in the world does Romance possibility ruin friendship side? Do you know what their point is? Do they think they'll lose friendship conversations if he is a romance or do they think him not being their LI would some how effect their type of friendship?? I'm so confused

 

Yeah, I tried that logic... got called names by someone... apparently people don't like their friends ever getting their own dates



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Good afternoon (and morning and night to those in different time zones) everyone! I had a good time catching up on the threads, everyone is so informative and well written in here. :3 

 

I agree that the idea of having a romance available would 'ruin' the friendship is silly... romance is just an extra level, if you want to keep Varric as your good friend you can do that easily -- don't romance him. xP He's the kind of character who's enjoyable pretty much any path you take, although I gotta say I'm kind of excited to see how his character has changed from DA2 to now.



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Yeah, lets just send Josephine to give them a good talking to...

 

In all seriousness though, it wasn't just the Leliana thing, it was just...seeing and hearing it all properly...

 

But you're right about being tricked, it really wouldn't surprise me if one lives and one dies depending on your choice...wow it's so scary...

 

Lol! And yes, It was pretty breathtaking, it's so nice to see how far the game's come since DA:O. Am I the only one who was freaking out about their hair though, it's so much more fluid in this game! It sorta bugged me in DA2 that it would stay a little stiff when they moved their heads...it kinda ruined the immersion a bit ( not alot but a little ). So, I'm happy they improved on that in DAI, I love little details like that! yes, im a nerd, i know lol



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Yeah, I tried that logic... got called names by someone... apparently people don't like their friends ever getting their own dates

I married my best friend, so I'm not sure how being in love with someone can "ruin" a friendship.  I'm not kidding about the best friend part either: We both have the same sort of very bizarre and occasionally crude sense of humor.  We tease each other much like friends would (like giggling at an unintended dirty joke, or if one of us pronounces a word wrong); we call each other dude more often than not; and when we used to fight sometimes, we wouldn't treat each other like lovers, it would be more as friends.

 

 I've found as I've gotten older that we as people are generally more forgiving of our friends than we are as our lovers.  One of the big reasons why my marriage works (just hit 8 years of marriage and just over 10 years together,) as well as my parents (they just hit 37 years together) is that we put our friendship first.   I hate how some folks think one has to be mutually exclusive from the other.


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tumblr_lmnbz0tSN71qcbykq.jpg  :lol:

Amio strikes again! lol 

Oh I crossover! Cheers, was wondering why this took so long, it was kinda an obvious pair :P.  



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I married my best friend, so I'm not sure how being in love with someone can "ruin" a friendship.  I'm not kidding about the best friend part either: We both have the same sort of very bizarre and occasionally crude sense of humor.  We tease each other much like friends would (like giggling at an unintended dirty joke, or if one of us pronounces a word wrong); we call each other dude more often than not; and when we used to fight sometimes, we wouldn't treat each other like lovers, it would be more as friends.

 

 I've found as I've gotten older that we as people are generally more forgiving of our friends than we are as our lovers.  One of the big reasons why my marriage works (just hit 8 years of marriage and just over 10 years together,) as well as my parents (they just hit 37 years together) is that we put our friendship first.   I hate how some folks think one has to be mutually exclusive from the other.

 

If I ever get married, I hope for a marriage just like that. I can't really fall in love with someone unless we're friends first, it's like a really important stepping stone. You have to be able to understand and respect each other, and get along with the person on a casual level as well as intimate.  ^_^ Friendships growing so strong they become something even more is just a really beautiful thing imo, as well. People talk about 'friend zone' and it makes me laugh usually. And it's quite true, I've quickly lost relationships where we jumped in too fast and didn't get to be good friends first. A best friend though, I've never lost one of those. I would never let myself lose a best friend, because with best friends you've been through thick and thin, and that's why they make the best partners!

 

So take that, people who don't want their friendship ruined by love.  :ph34r:


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So did the (optional) romance with Garrus ruin his "bro-ness" for those who didn't romance him? And seriously people are arguing against Varric changing? Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news but he already has changed. He's going to change regardless of LI status.

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If I ever get married, I hope for a marriage just like that. I can't really fall in love with someone unless we're friends first, it's like a really important stepping stone. You have to be able to understand and respect each other, and get along with the person on a casual level as well as intimate.  ^_^ Friendships growing so strong they become something even more is just a really beautiful thing imo, as well. People talk about 'friend zone' and it makes me laugh usually. And it's quite true, I've quickly lost relationships where we jumped in too fast and didn't get to be good friends first. A best friend though, I've never lost one of those. I would never let myself lose a best friend, because with best friends you've been through thick and thin, and that's why they make the best partners!

 

So take that, people who don't want their friendship ruined by love.  :ph34r:

 

And this is why Varric would make the best romance ever! <3


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I'm not really expecting him to end up with a Disney princess ending like the people you mentioned. It'd be too sappy and cliche' and given DAI's setting they seem to be wanting to show a more broken side to Varric. I'm thinking it'll go more the route of Alistair and Goldanna unfortunately. Your excited for him to finally see his sister again and think they'll be so happy together....then you meet her and *BAM* total heartbreak. ugh, I still hate her for doing that to poor Alistair.

 

Varric's love for Bianca has been too-much of a center point for his character and I just know it's going to end tragically.

 

Oh! And good morning everyone! :wizard:

 

Good morning!

 

This has been bewildering me since Varric was announced, honestly. Thedas can be a pretty vicious place - hell, we met Oghren when he was looking for his missing wife, and we all know how that turned out. So I don't know why so many people think Varric and Bianca are going to be all love and joy and white picket fences.


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Lol! And yes, It was pretty breathtaking, it's so nice to see how far the game's come since DA:O. Am I the only one who was freaking out about their hair though, it's so much more fluid in this game! It sorta bugged me in DA2 that it would stay a little stiff when they moved their heads...it kinda ruined the immersion a bit ( not alot but a little ). So, I'm happy they improved on that in DAI, I love little details like that! yes, im a nerd, i know lol

Yup I love little things like that too.  You know, I'm pretty sure when the day comes and I finally fire it up I'll just sit there and cry for a good 10-20 mins before I can do anything... :lol:


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