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[Milan92]

Batman doesn't do murder. He just beat the **** out of them.

 

That's why he dissaproves He wouldn't like Varric killing them!

[Milan92]

 

Varric not being the paragon of virtue people paint him as.  

 

I don't think people ever claimed him to be a paragon of virtue.

[Ynqve]

Considering they had their weapons drawn, it is not murder. It was defense more than anything. Defense of yourself, defense of Feynriel, defense of future victims. 

And he has no qualms killing people if they are in his way. I point to the quests involving Bartrand and the house. He straight up threatens the woman who was in there. 

 

I never said he never does threats or violence. I'm just saying he usually prefer to solve things in a non violent way. And when compared to other characters like Fenris and Anders, I honestly don't think the few instances where Varric loses his cool is that bad. 

[AresKeith]

If I recall correctly you can still murderknife the slaver, after Varric convinces him to let Feynriel go.

 

Yep, you can

[Milan92]

Well I think it was justified 

 

I probably would feel the same in his shoes.

[Ajna]

Well I think it was justified 

I'm out of likes...but I like.

[Chernaya]

Oh, Varric is no paragon of virtue. I can say I probably wouldn't be as fond of him if he was, because I prefer flawed characters with a side of cheesy humor.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I never said he never does threats or violence. I'm just saying he usually prefer to solve things in a non violent way. And when compared to other characters like Fenris and Anders, I honestly don't think the few instances where Varric loses his cool is that bad. 

You said he doesn't like it when people threaten or use violence on him, yet he is fine doing it to others. Hypocrisy, thy name is Varric. 

[Ynqve]

You said he doesn't like it when people threaten or use violence on him, yet he is fine doing it to others. Hypocrisy, thy name is Varric. 

 

I really don't agree with that. And it's not like he revels in doing violence. I never got the impression that he likes resorting to violence or threatening people at all. 

[SilkieBantam]

You said he doesn't like it when people threaten or use violence on him, yet he is fine doing it to others. Hypocrisy, thy name is Varric. 

I honestly can't remember a time where Varric threatened someone with violence that wasn't just him trying to bluff his way out of a situation. Please give a specific example for us. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Whatever. You are all right. Varric is a being we should all inspire to be like. I should be flogged for daring to smear his good name. 

[CrimsonHead]

Varric is just a smooth criminal.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I honestly can't remember a time where Varric threatened someone with violence that wasn't just him trying to bluff his way out of a situation. Please give a specific example for us. 

The lady in Bartrand's house in the Act 3 quest. 

[Milan92]

You are right. Still, he threatened via fake authority. 

 

 

He still did it. The fact that faking authority is the only way he can get out of problems peacefully is a problem. 

 

You know what's funny, I think Josephine would have solved it the exact same way. Trying to solve it through talking.

 

Would you say she would have been partly responsible as well if she had solved it the same way as Varric?

[SilkieBantam]

The lady in Bartrand's house in the Act 3 quest. 

I wouldn't count that. It was pretty heavily implied that was do to the red lyrium shards influence over him. 

 

Give another. 

[AresKeith]

Varric is just a smooth criminal.

 

Don't get that song stuck in my head

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You know what's funny, I think Josephine would have solved it the exact same way. Trying to solve it through talking.

 

Would you say she would have been partly responsible as well if she had solved it the same way as Varric?

There is no fake authority there. And she tries to appeal to them, rather than pseudo-threaten them.

[Chernaya]

I wish a had a cheesy joke at hand to break the tension in here. I'm sure Varric would have one. 

[Milan92]

There is no fake authority there. And she tries to appeal to them, rather than pseudo-threaten them.

 

What's the difference? The only thing that mattered was to get them to release Feynriel. 

 

And by appealing them she would have let them go as well.

[Who Knows]

Feynriel had a sword to his throat. Big deal if Varric bluffs to save Feynriel's life.

[AresKeith]

What's the difference? The only thing that mattered was to get them to release Feynriel. 

 

And by appealing them she would have let them go as well.

 

Even though you'd have to option to fight them anyway like with Varric

[The Elder King]

There is no fake authority there. And she tries to appeal to them, rather than pseudo-threaten them.

He doesn't always threaten people. He resolved the Starkhaven issue by simply lying and saying the Mages were already dead.
He did fake authority on Hawke, but there's no way they'd have reached a peaceful solution unless one of Hakwe's party members was a Knight-Captain/Commander, seeker or Grand Cleric.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

What's the difference? The only thing that mattered was to get them to release Feynriel. 

 

And by appealing them she would have let them go as well.

What's the difference between appealing and threatening? Is this a serious question? 

 

And from what we've heard of her, she'd appeal to them to the point they agree to turn themselves in.

[SilkieBantam]

Whatever. You are all right. Varric is a being we should all inspire to be like. I should be flogged for daring to smear his good name. 

Not at all this is a discussion thread after all, we discuss the good and the bad.

 

But it seems like you don't like Varric anymore, namely your comment about benching him permanently. And that's fine if you don't, I don't care how you play a game. However I do wonder why you would come into a thread for a character you appear to dislike, and I apologize if I'm wrong, try to antagonize the fans of said character. 

[Zakhar]

I wish a had a cheesy joke at hand to break the tension in here. I'm sure Varric would have one.

Pft, I just want to rant.


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