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Varric the Storyteller: Keeping us company in the Keep


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I don't think my Inquisitors would have punished her for the thing with Varric cause they don't know him that well, they would judge and punish her for the other thing though in a heart beat. My Hawkes on the other hand? Every single one of them would hate her and since most of them are loopy a stabbing or two may happen since you don't get to treat their friend like that and expect to get away with it without at least a limp. 

 

A Hawke and Inquisitor tag team then, solves both problems with one fell swoop. 


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Oh that's so disappointing, if she was going to show up it would have been nice to actually had her worthy of Varric's affection even after all these years.  If they were supposed to be a good fit, its obvious they aren't any longer, they were squabbling like a pair of children.

 

Poor Varric :(


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They didn't let us romance Varric because of that thing. Truly one of Bioware's worst desicions.

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I can understand Varric being all, "she's the bestest evar" about her - because it is Varric.  Most of what he says is exaggerated.  So, when he is waxing poetic about Bianca, I figure a good chunk of it is exaggerated.  But Bianca is edging towards a bland Mary-Sue given we are unable to call her on her **** or change anything about the situation. 

 

I have to admit, on my second playthrough I delighted in choosing all the aggressive options.  Even if I got my first and only, "Varric Disapproves".


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Okay spoilers for Varric personal quest (as well as light Dragon Age 2 one):
 

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I would love all honest opinions. I want to maybe get a different perspective on said person and warm up to them, maybe? Unless we all feel the same way so we can have a ****** fest LMAO cause I doubt I will warm up to this character... at all.

You have definitely come to the right place, I'm pretty sure most of the regulars feel the same way.The whole thing is just bad!

 

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I thought Bianca a tad meh myself, I was expecting more tbh was she supposed to be super interesting?  Its like she was a bit of an afterthought.  (And no, not a Varricmancer so no supposed ulterior motive here).

Idk I'd still like to make him forget all about his past YAKNOW
 

 
Haha oh how lovely! Thank yew :D
 
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I do love Varric but I was a bit underwhelmed with him in Inquisition, tbh. I just felt so bad for him... the few times we saw the real Varric I was jumping for joy! I did pop in here a bit pre-release (esp when people were being asshats to you guys when it was revealed that he wasn't an LI. I hate the politics on this board sometimes) but I mostly swoon over Dorian and his magnificence. Lol!
 

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EDIT: Yusss! Exactly! Agreed 1000000% it was just... meh

I wanted to have the option of setting her on fire with my Qunari mage or using her as dragon bait, no one treats people I know like that and gets away with it (even in a game). While I would have loved to have Varric as a LI in game, it's not the reason why I don't like her, it was more to do with how manipulating she was and how she's led poor Varric on for 15 years ( I ain't happening man, move on) and I felt that Varric deserved better (again not being a LI, that ship has well and truly sailed) and his personal quest with Bianca felt incomplete and unresolved.-the reason for the red lyrium amped nutters running around got away scot free, what madness is this?

 

@Ynvqe I would have loved to judge her, you can judge every one else, why not her?  also for some reason I don't think we've seen the last of her.- I hope we have, I never want to see her again.

 

@ Lucy Bianca's the Uber Mary Sue that near enough everyone loves to hate and kill off in very creative and unique ways inside their head.

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I was expecting Bianca to be this amazing character that is worthy of all the hulaballoo built-up by the comics and secretive mentions of her here and there. Then after Varric's LI status was a confirmed no, even as a Varricmancer, I had hope they will give us a good reason in-game. Maybe Bianca's special. Perhaps they would resolve whatever issue that kept this dramaz on for 10 to 15 years.

 

But no, she was just a plain underwhelming Mary Sue.

 

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That's gonna be my second playthrough. I'm curious to see how it affects Varric.


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Yeah... I wanted to turn Bianca into an ice statue right there.

Varric was... underwhelming in this game. I was disappointed. I thought for a while that maybe Bianca was dead due to some horrible thing he did on purpose and THAT'S why he's not an LI- he felt horribly guilty. But no. Instead we're stuck with some stupid Mary Sue we're supposed to like and we don't even get to tell Varric off for it.

Honestly, I wouldn't have cared if Varric stayed with Bianca if we had gotten the chance to tell her off and tell Varric he was being a tool. If they want to write him as a doormat, that's their choice. But it makes no sense to me that the INQUISITOR of one of the SCARIEST ORGANIZATIONS IN THEDAS can't snap at some dwarf they just met for being a ******, even though she COMPLETELY deserved it since she directly contributed to hundreds, if not thousands of deaths.
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If you get mad at her, he generally approves of it.


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It's just such a huge disappointment. They said that they wanted to "take his story further" but this is no better than what they did to Oghren in DAA, except this wasn't directly Varric being the disappointment, more like the whole dramaz with the "legendary" Bianca. Honestly, I wouldn't care if he rides off into the sunset with her, except that's not happening anytime soon, is it?


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It's just such a huge disappointment. They said that they wanted to "take his story further" but this is no better than what they did to Oghren in DAA, except this wasn't directly Varric being the disappointment, more like the whole dramaz with the "legendary" Bianca. Honestly, I wouldn't care if he rides off into the sunset with her, except that's not happening anytime soon, is it?

 

Newpe. Perhaps when they're older? Idk. I doubt it. 

 

*grumbles*



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Varric's relationship (and perhaps Varric himself) has not really progressed. We spun the wheels real hard only to find ourselves stuck in sand. Poor Varric.


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I just got the "Varric plays card" card without him inviting the Inquisitor to play Wicked grace with everyone. Has this happened to someone else?



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Seem like I'm not the only one who was deluded by Bianca's character.  :?

 

I'm not a devoted poster in this tread, but I must admit I found Bianca well...little impressive. To say the least. I was expecting some really tragic and serious motivation for her not being with Varric.

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At least I had the chance to hug our Dwarf  :crying: is a cruel tease, but is there.

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Too bad the only way to hug him is to break his heart and ruin the one good thing he has left. I'm never going to get that scene, it's not worth it.


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I just got the "Varric plays card" card without him inviting the Inquisitor to play Wicked grace with everyone. Has this happened to someone else?

 

I think you get the updated card when you've completed his personal quest, so you get it before the Wicked grace scene. But I could be wrong, there are so many bugs in the game. 



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I hugged him in my current file. :(

 

At least it was with my Cadash so it wasn't height-awkward... lol


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Too bad the only way to hug him is to break his heart and ruin the one good thing he has left. I'm never going to get that scene, it's not worth it.

 

If it was't for Alistair's sake, I would have not seen this scene...I must admit I'm quite glad I have done that choice. Something good came from it, at least.



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If it was't for Alistair's sake, I would have not seen this scene...I must admit I'm quite glad I have done that choice. Something good came from it, at least.

 

I know the feel. I just wanted to have a proper Alistair cameo with one of my favorite world states imported, but BioWare had to make it devastating. xD Sigh.


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If it was't for Alistair's sake, I would have not seen this scene...I must admit I'm quite glad I have done that choice. Something good came from it, at least.

 

Yeah, I would probably pick Alistair too. I love my Hawkes but it's Alistair. I'm so glad I always make him king.


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I know the feel. I just wanted to have a proper Alistair cameo with one of my favorite world states imported, but BioWare had to make it devastating. xD Sigh.

 

I think one of the motives I wasn't very affected by the thing was because I have more world states about DAO than DA2, since I played it very little in comparison. That Hawke can be used in another world state who doesn't have a warden Alistair. So she can be alive in another playthrought. :)



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Ok, so I read this post on tumblr x  (WARNING, spoilers to be had in the link) and it really does bring things into perspective as to WHY Varric holds onto Bianca like he does 

 

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completely unrelated:

 

my bf's playing the attack on Haven quest right now and gosh

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Ok, so I read this post on tumblr x  (WARNING, spoilers to be had in the link) and it really does bring things into perspective as to WHY Varric holds onto Bianca like he does 

 

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*applauds* Very well said, Bliss. I agree. That conclusion is pretty depressing, but it makes sense. I respect the writing behind him as well... but it seems poor Varric's worst fears are a reality, which is just heartbreaking to me.

 

 

completely unrelated:

 

my bf's playing the attack on Haven quest right now and gosh

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I completely agree with Bliss's assestment of Varric. After having seen the gravestone with Varric's fear on it, it basically made me think those exact same things. He's so afraid of what his parents became that he'll do anything to avoid it... but doesn't see that he's become that anyway. It's very sad. I hope he comes to realize the reality of his situation at some point, either in a DLC or in the next game. Something tells me his own story is going to have a tragic ending because he's not going to understand what's happening to him until it's too late.

 

I hope BioWare knows what they're doing with him... Maybe they just wanted a lovable, yet tragic character. If so, they've succeeded.


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