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Am I going to need to read any books to fully get everything? (like Kai Leng in ME3)


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In Mass Effect 3, Kai Leng came out of nowhere, was underdeveloped in the actual game and seemed like a really weak character.  As I found out later, he is introduced and gone much more in depth in some novel that was written between ME2 and ME3.

 

So I guess my question is, is there any "required reading" for DA:I?  Watching that Dawn of the Seeker movie is still on my list of things to do before DA:I comes out...was wondering if I should put any books on that list as well.

 

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They are not necessary,though it would be better to read Asunder and The Masked Empire to get a general idea of returning characters (Cole,Celene,Gaspard and others) and what happened after the Kirkwall Circle's Annulment in DA2.



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Asunder might be a good one to read. I recommend reading it regardless because it's a great book.

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No you don't have to read any books. Even if one thinks a character is rather weak, in real life you don't know much about every new person you meet either. I actually think knowing about certain characters before you play the game can too easily lead to issues with roleplaying, ie knowing exactly who Cole is.


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No, you won't.  Most likely.  However the two most relevant novels (Asunder and Masked Empire) are a pretty decent read.



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I don't agree that Kai Leng was weak in the game. I never read the novel that he was introduced in and I hated him so much based on his actions in the game.

 

Probably my most hated fictional character and killing him was incredibly satisfactory  


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No you don't. Not even with ME.  Kia Lang was a dragon type character, he never had any deep development.



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It kind of depends on how much background flavor you enjoy.  I get very tickled seeing the different media complement each other, but then my favorite parts of the games are the story and characters.  For example, The Stolen Throne really fleshes out the character of Loghain (whom I always kill so never had a chance to chat with my Warden).  The Calling gave some depth to the Architect and the Awakening expansion.

 

I've found all of the Bioware comics and novels well-written, so if you're interested, they will definitely enhance your experience of the games.



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I would hope not, really I hate that the DA books and such aren't just stand alone material

 

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I would hope not, really I hate that the DA books and such aren't just stand alone material

 

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In regards to the spoiler, I imagine you'll here about it.



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I would hope not, really I hate that the DA books and such aren't just stand alone material

 

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1. GET OVER IT.

2. It's not like you won't find out about it in DA:I.



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So that's what the deal with Kai Leng was. It looks like they assumed we knew things. Tie-ins like that are ugh. I always thought he was lame and just out if nowhere and yet important people were well aquinted with him... he reminded me of "fan" favorite Boba Fett in that respect.

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This is why they invented the Wiki. Just go read them and it should give you a good idea of what to expect.


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So that's what the deal with Kai Leng was. It looks like they assumed we knew things. Tie-ins like that are ugh. I always thought he was lame and just out if nowhere and yet important people were well aquinted with him... he reminded me of "fan" favorite Boba Fett in that respect.

Not at all. Kai Leng in the books had as much depth as he does in the game. The only thing the books explain more is how much he hates aliens and that can be glossed over. The books only showed him as a stoic close range fighter with a racist hate against aliens and anyone who crossed him. That's no different then want's in the game.



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I would hope not, really I hate that the DA books and such aren't just stand alone material

 

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We don't know that you do. Asunder was written after DA:2 so it couldn't be mentioned there. DA:I is the only game that they would bring it up in. If they don't then you'll have a valid reason to complain, until then there is no reason to assume the books are anything but a nice addition to the lore.

 

I would personally recommend Asunder and The Mast Empire, because they are well written (for books that tie into video games) and they would offer some additional insight into two important events, the Mage Rebellion and the Orlesian Civil War.



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We don't know that you do. Asunder was written after DA:2 so it couldn't be mentioned there. DA:I is the only game that they would bring it up in. If they don't then you'll have a valid reason to complain, until then there is no reason to assume the books are anything but a nice addition to the lore.

 

I would personally recommend Asunder and The Mast Empire, because they are well written (for books that tie into video games) and they would offer some additional insight into two important events, the Mage Rebellion and the Orlesian Civil War.

Not really the case. For the Wynne's "event " to not happen in the book she would have to be dead in DAO. Nothing else out side killing Shale effects the events of the book.



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None of the books are "required," though I would give Asunder and The Masked Empire a look to heighten your playing experience.


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Don't forget, Last Flight will be out before Inquisition is released.  So together we have:

 

Asunder: Mage-Templar Conflict

 

Masked Empire: Orlesian Civil War

 

Last Flight: Whatever the Grey Wardens are doing as of DAI.

 

They all provide insight into the state of the world as DAI begins, but they aren't strictly speaking necessary.


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If anything they'll pass the time between now and Release Day.

I might have to pick them up, myself.



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Asunder for it's awesomeness, seriously it's really well written, exciting and introduces some awesome characters and provides background on Cole who is gonna be a companion for DAI

 

Masked Empire for it's political intrigue, it's very intresting to learn more about the Orlesian culture and all that junk and plus since we're going to Orlais it'd be awesome if you read. 

 

Last Flight which is coming up which talks about what the hell the Grey Wardens have been doing this entire time as of DAI

 

Like everyone says, they're not necessary but they're excellent reads + they're probably gonna include some hints and easter eggs or implied jabs in the dialogue for those who have read the books.


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Being fairly new to the DA universe and having read a fair amount of the discussion on some of the threads, I decided to order all 4 books (and they just arrived today! YAY!). But I did it more to get background lore on Thedas because I've been enjoying the games so much. I presume they will have codex/journal entries to explain anything in the books in the actual game. Also, if you decide you'd rather not read them but would like to get a quick synopsis of the information, the Wiki entries for them mentioned in an earlier post do have relevant summary information.

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I agree, you don't *need* to read any of the books but I found it's a nice way of getting back into the lore if it's been a while since your last playthrough of Origins or DA2. I read Asunder last week (got it from the library so no extra expenditure - go libraries!) after hearing Cole was in Inquisition. I don't think it will affect the game (I imagine his back story will be covered as part of getting to know him) but it was a good reminder of what's going on in Thedas, and it fills in some gaps between DA2 and Inquisition, like what's happening with mages outside of Kirkwall. Plus it's a pretty quick read, so it's not going to be a massive undertaking if you do pick it up.

I didn't even realise Kai Leng was in anything other than ME3! I hated him plenty without any intro...

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You didn't even really need to read the Mass Effect books to get Kai Leng, since the game version of him pretty much ignored anything the books established about him. You don't even get to see his Ouroboros tattoo. He's just an indoctrinated tool in ME3, there's nothing else to understand about him. Anything else from the books, like Anderson's mission with Saren before ME1, and his relationship with Kahlee, are explained well enough in the games that you didn't need to read the books to understand what was going on. So imo the ME books were never necessary.

 

I imagine DA:I will be similar. Anything relevant and significant from the books will be explained to the player in the game. Main difference is, DA writers probably won't butcher their characters. Cole will be Cole, for example.



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In Mass Effect 3, Kai Leng came out of nowhere, was underdeveloped in the actual game and seemed like a really weak character.  As I found out later, he is introduced and gone much more in depth in some novel that was written between ME2 and ME3.


He's a weak character either way.
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The thing to remember about the Dragon Age spin-off media is that they follow Bioware's set canon. No attempt is made to 'fudge' things as with the Mass Effect spin-offs.

So if your world state is important to you, don't read the spin-offs. This isn't saying they are bad of course, simply that you'll be reading Bioware's play through and not your own.