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Modding Kaidan's casual outfit.


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Apologies if this is already known, I've not been able to find mention of it anywhere else so i figured I;d post the result of my experiments.

 

This all began when i wanted to change Kaidan's casual outfit from the standard Alliance unifrom to the outfit worn by Shepard in the opening.

As you may well know if you've ever tried to replace Kaidan's casual outfit (Kaidan_00_NC.pcc) it doesn't work. If you replace the mesh in the .pcc, whilst aboard the Normandy he will still use the standard outfit worn by the male crew.

I reasoned that the cause of this was because the mesh and textures in his pcc use the same name as the standard alliance unform (hmm_arm_cthb) so that when the game tries to load up that file, it instead took the file of the same name from the global Normandy or casual Shepard pccs. I figured if I renamed those objects in his pcc, then the game would load them from there as there would be nothing with the same name to override it.

Long story short, it worked! By changing their name to hmm_arm_cth_kaid i was able to give Kaidan an appearance separate from the rest of the crew.

Getting pictures of this has proved problematic however, he's normally shut up by himself. I'll do a quick run through Thessia later and get a picture of him talking to Adams. I got one of him next to Shep in the uniform, and a few from the intro where you can see his outfit is different from the others in the background.

 
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(the texture of the outfit is Ottemis')

 

Still testing it out right now but nothing seems to have broken, and he's using the correct outfit for all his scenes since the citadel coup. I haven't tested it before then yet, I assume that like Ashley I'll have to alter his Hospital outfit separately.


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I've been trying to do this for ages! One question, how'd you go about renaming the files? I tried renaming something else and...well...crash is putting it nicely.

Edit: this is incredibly awesome, by the way. :)

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Oh hello! Not bad at all =)



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I'm really pleased with how it turned out, slight mismatch in skin tone on the arms but nothing major (no pun intended). What I'd really love is to give him some sort of awesome and unique outfit, but I have no idea what that could look like and is well beyond my capability.

First I should point out that I replaced the mesh and textures before changing the names, not sure how texplorer would cope with a name change, didn't want to find out.

 

To change the names I opened PCC Editor 2.0 in me3explorer and opened the Kaidan_00_NC.pcc (be sure to backup first obviously as this still isn't tested fully)

Go to the exports tab and search for cthb.

There are 5 entries that require changing; model, mat, diff, spec and norm.

 

Go to the edit menu and select add name, input your new name (eg hmm_arm_cth_kaid_mdl) and select ok.

Select the entry you want to change and open the Meta Data Editor tab.

On the names tab, go to the bottom of the list and select the new name you created, then save changes. (if your new name isn't on the list, select another entry then return and it should have loaded)

Once you've done this for all 5 entries save the pcc, run TOCbinupdater and it should be working.

 

 
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Looks good on my end. :)  And, as a test, I swapped out his armor during the coup:

 

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Quick and dirty, and with the wrong spec, but it works.  This is beyond awesome.  Thank you so much for figuring this out! :D

 

Edit: Do you mind if I mention this on my tumblr?  Nobody knows this, and it's just too amazing to keep here!  :)


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Sure thing, I posted it here because I wanted people to know about it, so spread the word.


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Consider it spread! :D



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Ok, i thought it might be nice if Kaidan had a unique alliance outfit to match Ashley's, and i thought the best way to go about this might be an edit of Jacob's.

 

I've just done a quick and nasty job painting ash's colours onto Jacob's outfit to get a feel for what that could look like.

 

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Obviously I know that it looks horrible right now, just trying to get an idea of the concept before I actually make a proper go at it.
Any insights or changes people can suggest that would help with the design, either with the texture or the mesh?
I guess right now I'm not crazy about the bottom half in general, but can't quite put my finger on why.

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Yeah that colour layout works quite well, really smart to use Jacobs mesh.

Prolly a bit too much grey bulk at the bottom there, maybe try some grey diversity and black for the lower leg plating?

Might look nice to break up the line on the arms too, maybe at the ellbow and wrist?



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I think i'll get rid of the bright blue on the boots, it looks a bit too... fabulous for my liking.

Think you're right about breaking up the line on the arms, the mesh has a break there anyway, it's just the texture that carries on.

Also I think I'm gonna reduce that wedgie, it looks a little uncomfortable (I find it hard to fathom how Jacob and Miranda weren't constantly fidgeting in those outfits).


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@Wedgie: Yeaaah =P



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I will be first in line for this mod. O_O



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Having a play around with different fabrics/materials for each section right now, anybody got any suggestions?



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I'd take a cue off the ash suit, it's got sort of ceramic/hard leather plating with a plasticy/leather fabric and a nice ribbed under-weave. Always liked it tbh, would be nice if the materials would fit together between the two outfits imo.



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I'd take a cue off the ash suit, it's got sort of ceramic/hard leather plating with a plasticy/leather fabric and a nice ribbed under-weave. Always liked it tbh, would be nice if the materials would fit together between the two outfits imo.

 

Yeah I'm having a look at your Ash texture right now, I'll probably just shamelessly emulate your materials close as I can :P



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Yeah I'm having a look at your Ash texture right now, I'll probably just shamelessly emulate your materials close as I can :P

I could try and dig up the base textures I used if you want?

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should be ok, i've got 2out of 3 done now



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Kaidan's new suit's gonna look great!  Love the idea of using Jacob's and matching Ashley.  Can I suggest adding an Alliance/Spectre emblem on the chest, maybe?


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@Ottemis: Is it okay if I use the zip texture from your Ashley outfit? I have no idea how to reproduce that.



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@Ottemis: Is it okay if I use the zip texture from your Ashley outfit? I have no idea how to reproduce that.

Yeah sure feel free. I used parts of zipper images but it's a pain in the bum to do hah.



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I'm all for changing Kaidan's casual outfit, but can it be...........casual? like a recoloring of Shep's casual outfit #something, the one with the leather jacket & jeans.



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I'm all for changing Kaidan's casual outfit, but can it be...........casual? like a recoloring of Shep's casual outfit #something, the one with the leather jacket & jeans.

Plenty of that sort of mod already exist if that's what you want.


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Finally making a proper start of it. (Still a lot of Jacob's detailing on the chest, but that's just to remind me where to put my details on later)

 

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Lots of trial and error so progress is slow so far.


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Getting there (though evidently Liara disapproves)

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Getting there (though evidently Liara disapproves)

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Who cares what she thinks. My Femshep will definitely approve. lol


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