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[azrael_1289]

Eh ... sorry for spoiling that for you then hehe

I don't mind spoilers. I care more about 'how it happens' than 'what happens'. I am one of those people who read the last few pages of the book and then enjoy the book to understand how we got there.

[azrael_1289]

Yeesh. I couldn't imagine doing that.

 

I remember J.K. Rowling attended a signing at a bookstore when the last Deathly Hallows book came out. This one kid was about to flip to the last page to see the end, and she has this look of pure, unadulterated fury on her face.

Funny you should mention Deathly Hallows. I distinctly remember doing just that before I even got out of the book store the day it came out

I usually enjoy a story more if I know where it'll eventually end up. Maybe I'm just weird. 

[aTigerslunch]

I actually did that to that very book as well.    Sis got mad.

[azrael_1289]

I actually did that to that very book as well.    Sis got mad.

Good to know I'm not the only one

[9TailsFox]

I do feel like Bioware went a little overboard at E3. They basically gave away the entire Redcliffe portion of the game.

 

"Here is where you will resolve the mage and templar conflict once and for all. Your destination will be Redcliffe Castle. Once you get to Redcliffe Castle, this will be the antagonist that you will face (cue Alexius and his son)."

 

It would have been enough to show a few fights with random mobs. Also, using movie trailers to defend your point ...

 

Most movie trailers are so saturated with spoilers that they remove all incentive to actually go see the film. It's one thing to give your audience a taste ...

I agree with OP Bioware realising to much spoilers. Companions are most important part of DA games, and must be surprise, but we already have full character Dossier. Iron Bull is Qunari spy, come on really? Andrastes flaming knickers. And about moves. Flash trailer literary show all first episode I mean... I just... ok.    I am happy I know nothing about Pillars of eternity or Divinity or Witcher.

[InvincibleHero]

That is why I watch very few trailers and don't go into threads that dissect and examine them frame by frame. They have Q&A threads from time to time and you can ask about gameplay etc and divine enough from that. I have seen some screenshots and the dragonfight and the first pax video that's it enough to sell me so far. Wait til word of mouth on bug state and such after release as i never pre-order and want a game stably patched before I play. I once lost 60 hours playing Fallout 2 not happening again.

[andy6915]

Funny you should mention Deathly Hallows. I distinctly remember doing just that before I even got out of the book store the day it came out

I usually enjoy a story more if I know where it'll eventually end up. Maybe I'm just weird. 

So you intentionally do this trope even when the story doesn't do it itself-

 

http://tvtropes.org/...in/HowWeGotHere

[aTigerslunch]

I don't follow some games I plan to just rent from previous experiences with titles.   Quite a few actually, only buying one, maybe two while rest will be rented. Mainly ones without replayability in general.  I rushed Gears, Halo and CoD just to see story unfold, didn't care much about details on them.

[Lebanese Dude]

Yeah I'll probably be avoiding this forum and relevant websites a month or two before DA:I releases. I'll be more hyped that way

 

I already know enough information about the game anyway. At this point all I want are recommended specs for my PC.

[NRieh]

 

If you don't want that you should stay away from the forums and gaming websites

That does not seem to be a good idea. Because someone can be pretty much interested in the Keep details and release date and\or game mechanics ( classes, crafting, fighting, exploring), but still wish to avoid any sort of characters-plot related stuff.

 

I'm lucky to have a friend who is eager to get all the details about everything, so I just follow the links that she confirms as 'safe' ones or hear things from her directly. 

 

I don't know  why they do it. Can you imagine "spoiled" KOTOR1  or JE promos?     

[Rawgrim]

If you don't want to risk being spoiled, stay away from forums and trailers.

[Lebanese Dude]

That does not seem to be a good idea. Because someone can be pretty much interested in the Keep details and release date and\or game mechanics ( classes, crafting, fighting, exploring), but still wish to avoid any sort of characters-plot related stuff.

 

I'm lucky to have a friend who is eager to get all the details about everything, so I just follow the links that she confirms as 'safe' ones or hear things from her directly. 

 

I don't know  why they do it. Can you imagine "spoiled" KOTOR1  or JE promos?     

 

Oh yeah I forgot about the Keep

 

I'll probably do it a week before release to hype me up.

[Ascendra]

I dont mind the characters as much as i mind the story spoilers. The biggest and the worst spoiler for me was the beginning of the game - You emerging with a glowing hand of doom. This is too much i think.
Imagine if you had no such information, what would you do if you saw it in the game? Id probably go "woah cool!" But now im just "meh okay".

While i know we can avoid the spoilers and not watch/read anything, i would have still wanted to see the trailers without spoilery info.
I know they are trying to hype the game since they need as much return on investment as possible. But i would have preferred PoE approach to marketing - just tiny bits of info, nothing earth-shattering.
Would have been cool to experience a game knowing nothing about it, but alas its too late already.

[addiction21]

Eh ... sorry for spoiling that for you then hehe

 

Since that was never stated in the first place you didn't spoil anything.
 

[Majestic Jazz]

I dont mind the characters as much as i mind the story spoilers. The biggest and the worst spoiler for me was the beginning of the game - You emerging with a glowing hand of doom. This is too much i think.
Imagine if you had no such information, what would you do if you saw it in the game? Id probably go "woah cool!" But now im just "meh okay".

While i know we can avoid the spoilers and not watch/read anything, i would have still wanted to see the trailers without spoilery info.
I know they are trying to hype the game since they need as much return on investment as possible. But i would have preferred PoE approach to marketing - just tiny bits of info, nothing earth-shattering.
Would have been cool to experience a game knowing nothing about it, but alas its too late already.

There is a link to a story from 2011 where Bioware admits that they have spoiled their games through marketing and that they vow to not do that with Mass Effect 3, and with that they did do a better job. Looks like with DA:I they are back to "Hey lets spoil the entire beginning moments of the game for you!"

[SofaJockey]

BioWare are damned either way.

 

The publicity is a trailer for the game so it has to show something.

This community is pumped and some have been asking for full demos.

 

I'm not seeing any major BioWare spoilers, there will inevitably be some minor ones so I understand the point the OP is making.

Most games will show something from the early part of the game, so the spoiling is not so major.

 

I reckon BioWare are getting it about right and should resist the 'blower pls' calls that will doubtless come for a load more story information.

[Ascendra]

There is a link to a story from 2011 where Bioware admits that they have spoiled their games through marketing and that they vow to not do that with Mass Effect 3, and with that they did do a better job. Looks like with DA:I they are back to "Hey lets spoil the entire beginning moments of the game for you!"

Except they did the complete opposite with ME3 by providing a full beginning demo...
DA:I is beautiful enough without having to release crucial info. Combat mechanics and dragon fighting, or shots of companions would have been enough, hell id be happy by just seeing the Character Creator! Shame they had to resort to this type of marketing.

[Fearsome1]

The age range of potential customers is fairly wide to say the least, but surely we aren't collectively stupid to the point where if we don't want games ruined with spoilers in advance of release, we know NOT to visit forums and such?

 

Just because marketing puts out all manner of press releases, doesn't mean that you MUST read them; go elsewhere and await the games arrival. Grousing about factoids that you didn't actually want to know, when you could have easily avoided them in the first place, seems really bizarre to me.

 

I freely admit that spoilers do not bother me at all. Never have!

[Bellanaris88]

I also don't mind the Characters. That's information we can avoid if we want to. But I'm upset about spoiling the beginning. I read and watched two interviews with Cameron Lee, which were linked to provide information on the Keep and combat. I really want information on that and it's nothing that could spoil the plot for me, but in both those interviews Cameron explained exactly what will happen at the beginning. Where it will take place, whats happening there, what characters will be there and that they're going to die.. I mean.. I really didn't want to know such details..

 

I understand that they have to bring Inquisition to the attention of other people than us and that works  best if you give them an insight on the story, but Bioware really should make it clear when it's plot-relater info or just gameplay-info.

[Majestic Jazz]

Here, I found it.

 

Here is a news posting from April 2011 in which Bioware admits that they may have put too much plot details into their marketing, thus spoiling the game for many. Because of that, they vowed to not do it with Mass Effect 3. Here is a quote from

“Also, other than the attack on Earth, I think we’ll try harder this time not to spoil things for you. By the time the game ships you’ll be mad about the lack of story info .

“Thing is what makes Mass Effect awesome is the story – it’s packed with major and minor plot points. Selling it as awesome only by talking about basic game features can be difficult – but we may see a move towards that this time.”

“It seems though that if we don’t say enough about story, people jump to negative conclusions quickly. At any time, we’ll keep a lid on stuff.”

 

Here is the link to that article.

 

 

It looks like with DA:I, they are back to their old ways.

[Majestic Jazz]

Here is a list of spoilers (minor or major) that was not leaked, but was rather revealed by Bioware:

 

1) Morrigan has the Empress wrapped around her fingers (Bioware could have just left it at Morrigan simply returns and will have a prominent role in the game)

 

2) Iron Bull is a spy (Could have just been left at Iron Bull is a Qunari mercenary )

 

3) The game begins with the Templars/Mages meeting to discuss a truce when then an explosion happens and they are all killed except for the Inquisitor. (Could have just been left that that at the beginning of the game, the Templars/Mages are discussing a truce but something happens which causes everything to go to hell).

 

etc.....

 

There are more but I am crunched on time right now. Basically, if Bioware would have just used what I put into parenthesis, then it leaves it to be more of a mystery, making want want to play the game to see what is really going on. Instead, they just told you what is really going on.

 

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To those who say that I should just stay away from the forums, well that isn't fair. I might not want to know plot spoilers but that also means that I cant learn gameplay mechanics, customizations, class specializations, character creation etc? I was reading a gameplay oriented article when I accidently read a sentence that mentioned how the mages/templars are killed at the beginning of the game. So it isn't like I am actively seeking out spoilers.